HOW would Axel be Riku's Nobody?

[Zero Inferno]

I've heard it dozens of times, and it never makes sense to me, or the near-non-existent reasoning behind it is ridiculously flimsy, but now I just want to get an honest opinion from other KHI members, especially those who believe that Axel really is Riku's Nobody.

[Phil]

Originally Posted by Zero Inferno

I've heard it dozens of times, and it never makes sense to me, or the near-non-existent reasoning behind it is ridiculously flimsy, but now I just want to get an honest opinion from other KHI members, especially those who believe that Axel really is Riku's Nobody.

How is that possible, when riku was never a heartless or sponded one.
Axel looks way older that riku and and there names don't even compare closer to each other.

[SufferingAngel]

Originally Posted by Zero Inferno

I've heard it dozens of times, and it never makes sense to me, or the near-non-existent reasoning behind it is ridiculously flimsy, but now I just want to get an honest opinion from other KHI members, especially those who believe that Axel really is Riku's Nobody.

:\ Axel isn't Riku's Nobody. Riku's Body and Soul were never left without a Heart so it was never casted away to become a Nobody.
Also, fun facts to consider -

Marluxia, number 11, was recruited before Roxas - number 13 joined.
That would mean that Axel - number 8 - was already a Member of the Organization.
Seeing how Riku would've "created a Nobody" along the time Roxas was created (seeing how Sora reached Hollow Bastion, Riku let XH into his Body, and then Roxas was created, all in a short amount of time), that would mean that had Axel been Riku's Nobody, he'd have had a number closer to Roxas's, not 5 ranks before him. Yet Axel's number indicates he was created possibly even before the Islands even went kapoot at the start of KH1.

[Little IBeatSeph]

Hmm.. I don't know what it is.. I mean, there names don't add up, they don't look the same (well, y'know, Nomora giving everyone the same face and all is a little thing) and.. well, I think the only people saying that Axel is Riku's nobody are noobs that just join so they can post their stupid theorys. It must be a type of virus, or something, lol.

[Phil]

I'm sorry but this miserable failed.

[The Liberator]

the six apprentices became heartless and their nobodies started the organization nine years prior to KH1. the only non-apprentice to join before Axel would be Saix. Riku never lost his heart, he was possessed by Xehanort. And even if that did cause him to lose his heart, I seriously doubt that the Org. could have found four nobodies between the time that this happens to Riku and Sora stabs himself.

Short answer form:

RIKU HAS NO NOBODY

and guess what, if Riku did have a nobody, he would also have become a heartless. Riku looked pretty damn whole to me in CoM.

[Rufus Shinra]

The main reason some believe he is Riku's nobody is because of Sora/Riku friendship and Roxas/Axel's one... But he's not...

[UrbanQuattrus]

^Exactly. They take the whole concept of analogues to a ridiculous length. Riku has no nobody, and if he did it wouldn't be Axel.

[SufferingAngel]

Originally Posted by UrbanQuattrus

^Exactly. They take the whole concept of analogues to a ridiculous length.

To be fair, it's to be expected we'd see more of this "theory", seeing how with Xion being so Kairi like and in connection with Roxas - Sora's Nobody, many more people are likely to label Axel as that trio's 'Riku'.
We can only hope that sooner or later they'd understand that each trio has its own chemistry, much like Aqua isn't Kairi and Terra isn't Riku :\ so the same applies here, especially since in more ways than one Roxas isn't Sora, and if the trailers are anything to go by, Xion isn't really like the Kairi we've seen thus far mostly because Xion is Watanabe written

[The Liberator]

Originally Posted by SufferingAngel

Xion isn't really like the Kairi we've seen thus far mostly because Xion is Watanabe written

and because Xion has more use than to just be kidnapped in an attempt to keep the plot going.

[Chevalier Sombre]

In the ending, Riku and the King are on the other side of the door. Why is that?

Nomura: As far as the King is concerned, he was on the other side from the beginning. He disappeared because he went to the world on the other side in order to find one of the two keys. There, he has his own adventure in the same way as Sora. As for Riku, his body stolen by Ansem (Xehanort's Heartless), his heart did not remain in this world. The other side of the door is, just as it appears, Darkness. So Riku's heart went to the world on the other side, that is to say just as Ansem (Xehanort's Heartless) was saying at the end, the world of Darkness. Thus, when Ansem (Xehanort's Heartless) disappears and Riku returns to his original body, he is in the world of Darkness. (Riku returned to his original body, therefore leaving no Heartless or Nobody.)

I do so love the things you can find in interviews.

[Valley of Chrome]

I've heard it dozens of times, and it never makes sense to me, or the near-non-existent reasoning behind it is ridiculously flimsy, but now I just want to get an honest opinion from other KHI members, especially those who believe that Axel really is Riku's Nobody

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[SufferingAngel]

Originally Posted by Chevalier Sombre

I do so love the things you can find in interviews.

Wasn't that part the translator's notes, though?

[Chevalier Sombre]

Wasn't that part the translator's notes, though?

I don't know. I suppose it could be, but you can come to the same conclusion that the translator did very easily if that's so.

[sealightbreeze]

I think he is Rikku's nobody