Everything We Know About Birth By Sleep | Unversed So Far

[Sahrvergnugen]

So, they'r if a Nobody and a Heartless had a child? Weird...

[Key of Valor]

I think Unbirths are beings of Dawn (inbetween light and dark)
When first asked about the new enemy, Nomura reminded fans
that the main Heartless are called Shadows and the main Nobodies
are called Dusks. I think each enemy might match up with a different
path of the Crossroads. Heartless are darkness made real, so they
would be of darkness. Nobodies claim to be of nothingness, but in
the end they're really caught in between light and dark and destined
to fade into darkness, just like the nightfall. What remains is dawn
and light, so it seems fitting that the birth of the KH story would
include enemies of dawn (or birth of the day).

[Sahrvergnugen]

I agree this makes sense

[Sunshine]

What your saying is scratchy but makes some sense. =/

[Memory Master]

Originally Posted by Key of Valor

I think Unbirths are beings of Dawn (inbetween light and dark)
When first asked about the new enemy, Nomura reminded fans
that the main Heartless are called Shadows and the main Nobodies
are called Dusks. I think each enemy might match up with a different
path of the Crossroads. Heartless are darkness made real, so they
would be of darkness. Nobodies claim to be of nothingness, but in
the end they're really caught in between light and dark and destined
to fade into darkness, just like the nightfall. What remains is dawn
and light, so it seems fitting that the birth of the KH story would
include enemies of dawn (or birth of the day).

One problem with this. If nobodies are in between then they are both dusk and dawn.

So let's look at this differently:

1. Heartless = Darkness
2. Nobodies = In between
3. Unbirths = Nothingness
4. Perhaps a creature of light?

[∞]

Um, no? Nobodies are Nothingness.

And I think it's just most people that are the beings of Light.

[Memory Master]

Originally Posted by Zero Inferno

Um, no? Nobodies are Nothingness.

And I think it's just most people that are the beings of Light.

How can they be nothingness. They are basically a body and soul and body and souls are not nothing.

[∞]

But lacking a Heart they shouldn't exist, yet they do. They are called Nobodies, and Xemnas' element is Nothingness, so it exists (if you can say Nothing exists).

[Memory Master]

Originally Posted by Zero Inferno

But lacking a Heart they shouldn't exist, yet they do. They are called Nobodies, and Xemnas' element is Nothingness, so it exists (if you can say Nothing exists).

Yes they were'nt meant to exist yet they still do. But the same could be said for heartless. They were all mistakes they should'nt exist but they do anyways.

If I told why I think unbirths are nothingness then that would ruin my upcoming theory.

[Key of Valor]

Nobodies feel nothing, they consider themselves as nothing, but
they do exist inbetween light and dark. They are not actually nothing,
for there is no true way for them to ever actually fade from existence.

[Memory Master]

Originally Posted by Key of Valor

Nobodies feel nothing, they consider themselves as nothing, but
they do exist inbetween light and dark. They are not actually nothing,
for there is no true way for them to ever actually fade from existence.

Exactly. They are not nothing yet they are not their own person. They are nobody. They have no heart but they are a body and soul so they exist in between light and dark because without a heart they have neither light or dark.

Yet unbirths are different. But how so will be explained in my theory

[Insane_NewB]

You know what? I just thought of this, but considering BH's/ SA's (since they co-made the theory) theory (seen below), what if MX is actually younger than he appears, but the split made one half appear older and one half appear younger. Okay, even if DS doesn't have a face, you can see that he is generally younger looking, just based by the physique and MX is older, so I suppose that maybe the split (if the theory really is right on the money) might of prematurely aged one half and made the other appear younger. However, instead of the classic "a person on the dark side has an advanced age" (like the Emperor in Star Wars), it's in reverse (the light part has the advanced age), especially since it was potentially an experiment of MX's after all.

Ehh.. that's my basis for why MX might of de-aged, when he became Xehanort. Then again, there's still Terra and things related to Terra being linked to things related to Xehanort to consider.

[∞]

Don't make me state my KH fan fic FMA explanation for how he got younger, please.

[Sahrvergnugen]

Creatures of light are humans, and people that live in worlds that arent evil, and Angel Star Heartless, which are formed from pure light, but idk if that counts

[∞]

I doubt it does. Since there needs to be Darkness in a Heart to form a Heartless. Otherwise it wouldn't be a Heartless.