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Old September 8th, 2008, 02:07 AM   #1
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I was thinking if "Ansem"(Xehanort) turned into a heartless wouldn't he not have a fake heartless symbol on himself. ( Excluding the fact that the developers hadn't thought of this yet.)

Because we have seen hide nor hair of any of the Org. heartless and when Sora did it he just turned into a regular heartless.


So really my question is: why is "Ansem's" heartless fake and had a form and sora's wasn't, but the nobodies still had the same qualities.(except Roxas didn't have memories.)

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Old September 8th, 2008, 02:12 AM   #2
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That's a really good question. He probably used his machine to make himself into a heartless.
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Old September 8th, 2008, 02:16 AM   #3
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To explain why Sora's heartless was so puny, Sora had little darkness in his heart.

As for Xehanort's Heartless, that was XH taking over Riku's body. So, he wasn't born looking like that, with the emblem and all; actually, before he takes over Riku's body completely, he hid under a brown cloak.
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That's a really good question. He probably used his machine to make himself into a heartless.
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Old September 8th, 2008, 02:23 AM   #6
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Xehanort's Heartless had no physical manifestation, correct? Which was why he had to take over Riku's body, and ultimately came to look like a human heartless.

So, I suppose that poses the question: Why did he have an emblem after taking over Riku's body? :/

He was hidden under a brown cloak for most of the game. Some would say it was too hide his appearance until the end of the game, but at the same time there could have been more reasons for doing so. In fact, why take over Riku's body at all if he looked exactly the same underneath the cloak? Does this mean he needed a body to be complete and be at his top game? Or, in fact, did he look totally different underneath the cloak?
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Xehanort's Heartless had no physical manifestation, correct? Which was why he had to take over Riku's body, and ultimately came to look like a human heartless.

So, I suppose that poses the question: Why did he have an emblem after taking over Riku's body? :/

He was hidden under a brown cloak for most of the game. Some would say it was too hide his appearance until the end of the game, but at the same time there could have been more reasons for doing so. In fact, why take over Riku's body at all if he looked exactly the same underneath the cloak? Does this mean he needed a body to be complete and be at his top game? Or, in fact, did he look totally different underneath the cloak?
He wasn't a threat because he had no physical form under the cloak. He had to use Riku's body as a vessel so he could carry out his horrid plans. Also, wasn't AsoD's emblem just a necklace of some sort? If so, it might have to do with the fact that Rikunort's connected with Soul Eater. Soul Eater transformed into the Way to Dawn, which in turn that same keyblade had a heartless emblem as it's keychain. The exact same emblem piece Ansem wore as a necklace.
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And theres no Concrete proof that Riku was only possessed during the stuff at Hollow Bastion, He might have been carrying Xehanort from destiny islands on, only XH wasn't strong enough to take control yet, Any thoughts?
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He wasn't a threat because he had no physical form under the cloak. He had to use Riku's body as a vessel so he could carry out his horrid plans. Also, wasn't AsoD's emblem just a necklace of some sort? If so, it might have to do with the fact that Rikunort's connected with Soul Eater. Soul Eater transformed into the Way to Dawn, which in turn that same keyblade had a heartless emblem as it's keychain. The exact same emblem piece Ansem wore as a necklace.
That's what I thought. Thanks for confirming.

I'm not sure if it was a necklace or not. It seemed more like an emblem stuck to his chest.

Which, of course, suggested that he was an artificial heartless.

Y'know, considering Xehanort MADE the emblem's design to begin with, I'm considering the possibility that Xehanort/Xehanort's Heartless purposely added the emblem to himself after falling into the darkness.

Then again, if he had no "physical" form to begin with, he couldn't have done that.

Well, actually, he didn't have a body, but he may have had some sort of physical form.
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That's what I thought. Thanks for confirming.

I'm not sure if it was a necklace or not. It seemed more like an emblem stuck to his chest.

Which, of course, suggested that he was an artificial heartless.

Y'know, considering Xehanort MADE the emblem's design to begin with, I'm considering the possibility that Xehanort/Xehanort's Heartless purposely added the emblem to himself after falling into the darkness.

Then again, if he had no "physical" form to begin with, he couldn't have done that.

Well, actually, he didn't have a body, but he may have had some sort of physical form.
Here's a picture of AsoD ((Or Xehanort's Heartless)) It's official concept art from Nomura himself. If you notice, the emblem is on the outside of his coat, not attached to his skin or chest.
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How strange that his Nobody has pointy ears but his Heartless does not.

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Than my thoughts are at rest, my friend. =D

Thank you.

It's just a part of his outfit design.
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Maybe since he submitted willingly? I dunno D=
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