This has been killing me for the longest and...

[LlaveEspada 0]

..I know to many it will sound dumb and a useless question but just listen.

We all know that Heartless are the darkness of people's hearts made real through the person's heart, and that Nobodies are the empty shells of someone's body that is missing a heart. So to me that has always seemed strange and I mean the names of both these enemies. If a Nobody is a being missing a heart shouldn't IT be called a Heartless while being the heart itself (just of darkness) and missing a body shouldn't the Heartless be called a Nobody.

I understand that obviously it makes sense to everyone, but to me I just believe the names being switched would make more sense.

Thanks for reading ^^

[Chevalier Sombre]

The names aren't to be taken literally. It's a play on words. "Heartless" can also mean cruel, evil, which describes the heartless and the people who make use of them pretty well.

"Nobody" can also someone worthless, irrelevant, which is what the nobodies are essentially are: according to the cosmology of KH they don't even exist.

[Rancid]

So uh, where's the play on words for the unbirth?

[Chevalier Sombre]

So uh, where's the play on words for the unbirth?

We don't know enough about them to have much of a guess.

[LlaveEspada 0]

Ok Hades you have a good point.

The unbirths we barely know about except they have some connection to heartless and nobodies and that they existed and became extinct before KH1

[Lanydx]

Originally Posted by HadesDragon

The names aren't to be taken literally. It's a play on words. "Heartless" can also mean cruel, evil, which describes the heartless and the people who make use of them pretty well.

"Nobody" can also someone worthless, irrelevant, which is what the nobodies are essentially are: according to the cosmology of KH they don't even exist.

I have understood how they DONT exist.Can somone help me with this?

[LlaveEspada 0]

Originally Posted by Lanydx

I have understood how they DONT exist.Can somone help me with this?

Org. XIII says they don't eexist because they don't have hearts plain and simple

[Vic Viper]

They are beings, but they don't exist as full people. They don't 'feel' anything.

[Reflection]

lol that always bothered me too.

Hades has it pretty much covered.
it's more symbolic than literal.

[Cissy]

It's irony.

I'm guessing that "Unbirth" doesn't literally mean "Not born" but something different. The definition "Not born" would probably be the play-on-words.

[Jack32307]

THAT WAS THE FIRST QUESTION I ASKED WHEN I JOINED LOL, BUT ITS LIKE The are Heartless because they dont care, and nobodies are in terms no one, or nobodies.

[Wubdor]

There's a difference between 'Nobody' and 'No body'.

[SwordsmenXIII]

Originally Posted by Reflection

lol that always bothered me too.

Hades has it pretty much covered.
it's more symbolic than literal.

yeah, its been bothering me too but i found it to be more of a symbol than literal.

[Grace Assassin]

Originally Posted by Cisorlyx

It's irony.

I'm guessing that "Unbirth" doesn't literally mean "Not born" but something different. The definition "Not born" would probably be the play-on-words.

Heartless implies no hearts, but they do have hearts.

Nobodies implies no bodies, but they do have bodies.

Unbirths implies no birth, but they do have birth.

ie Birth by Sleep.

[Cissy]

Originally Posted by Grace Assassin

Heartless implies no hearts, but they do have hearts.

Nobodies implies no bodies, but they do have bodies.

Unbirths implies no birth, but they do have birth.

ie Birth by Sleep.

Exactly, my friend.

It's Nomura's way of confusing us.