Could someone have more than 1 nobody?

[meep2meep]

Ok I know this sounds crazy.... All with the exception that Namine and Roxas became whole again or what ever gay thing they did; all other nobody's kinds just faded from existance...
Sora got rid of (in order) Larxene, Marluxia, Demyx, Xaldin, Xigbar, Luxord, Saiix, then Xemnas
Riku merked Lexaus and Zexion...
Axel stabbed Vexen in the back....literally. XD, Then he just kinda killed himself I guess?
Thats what we know so far/ what I'm wondering because people just dont seem to see my logic..
What happens when the nobody of a person once it is destroyed (yes i know it just kinda fades away cause it doesnt really exist bla bla bla...).
Normal person (or not)--> killed (turned into strong heartless and weak nobody or reverse... so were told except for Xeonart...weird huh). In the scenario that an actually form is kept in createion of a nobody (org xiii) is it possible that the nobody can be restored? Not out of nowhere but hearts can be returned to their normal form without having their nobody become whole... so far so good?
Lets say for example for who ever would have likes to see this happen... either Namine or Roxas (preferably not Roxas) never returned to Sora or Kairi. Would they just continue to exist without a Nobody? Or would it not matter if Roxas or Namine returned to darkness and instead they returned to their Somebody with no reccolection of being a nobody (as if never existing in the 1st place) even though weve seen what happens when they become whole again...
I want to know if a random person is killed (and then their nobody is killed) but somehow that individual becomes their former self does their nobody return to them (if it was killed)... Yes i know that makes no sence...
So again using Sora/ Roxas, if Roxas was killed (after Kairi restored Sora) but then Sora somehow turned into a heartless AGAIN would Roxas be born again or a dusk in his place?:unsure:

[Iridium]

No, once a person has a separate nobody in exsistance and they once again turn into a heartless their nobody won't be reborn. And again one person can't have two nobodies (the exception is the case of Sora and Namine of course.)

[meep2meep]

Originally Posted by Yttrxium

No, once a person has a separate nobody in exsistance and they once again turn into a heartless their nobody won't be reborn. And again one person can't have two nobodies (the exception is the case of Sora and Namine of course.)

But thats just my point... We already have exceptions... whats stopping Nomura for creating more?

[Iridium]

Because that was a 'special exception', how likely would it be that a persons heart was harboring itself in another being and was released with another keyblade of darkness that can unlock peoples hearts creating not one but TWO nobodies?!

That's impossible, and I think Nomura did that for the reason of Roxas and Namine being the only one of their kind to be born that way to make them special in their own right.

[meep2meep]

Originally Posted by Yttrxium

Because that was a 'special exception', how likely would it be that a persons heart was harboring itself in another being and was released with another keyblade of darkness that can unlock peoples hearts creating not one but TWO nobodies?!

That's impossible, and I think Nomura did that for the reason of Roxas and Namine being the only one of their kind to be born that way to make them special in their own right.

ok but if (even though this isnt proven yet) roxas is somehow ven... what would have happened if sora was turned into a heartless while ven was alive... and as for random people i was refering more to organization members... after kh2 what if their hearts are restored would a replica nobody be created or?

[Iridium]

The heartless didn't exist at that time thus Sora wouldn't be turned into a heartless, people do theorize the connection between Ven and Sora as him fusing with sora or something along the lines of that but that has yet to be proven.

And it a nobodies hearts are restored they would be come whole again once defeated in battle or they find their original captive heart (which without the power of KH would be nearly impossible).

[meep2meep]

so to clarify if for ex axels captive heart was restored after he axel died. Would axel would still cease to exist...

[Iridium]

Well if his heartless was destroyed and his heart from that heartless returned to KH after he died, in essence he would become whole again. But we might never know that.

[Ragnarok]

No. Only one Nobody is created.

[meep2meep]

Originally Posted by Yttrxium

Well if his heartless was destroyed and his heart from that heartless returned to KH after he died, in essence he would become whole again. But we might never know that.

Then you agree with my theory? Im trying to figure out what Ven means when he says erase me and that is kinda my basis of explanation... but now im wondering if Nobody's dont exist... then they can never really die....

[Iridium]

In a way yes and no, they can't be reborn nobodies but reborn as new beings if they ever find their hearts however.
And as for the Ven thing, the game is mostly surrounded by him and his memory, so it's easy to assume that he's talking to Aqua about either erasing his memories or the fact that they are friends, it's unlikely he means for her to destroy him.

[meep2meep]

Originally Posted by Yttrxium

In a way yes and no, they can't be reborn nobodies but reborn as new beings if they ever find their hearts however.
And as for the Ven thing, the game is mostly surrounded by him and his memory, so it's easy to assume that he's talking to Aqua about either erasing his memories or the fact that they are friends, it's unlikely he means for her to destroy him.

Lol yeah I mean destroy him but not in a physical sence more as in turn him into a nobody...
And if they are reborn as new beings they wouldn't have the memories that they once had.... it would be impossible... he wouldnt remember being axel once just as he wouldnt remember being turned into a nobody in the first place... Xemnas says he remembers what it was like to feel but he never says he remembered his past... none of them have... only roxas knew of his past but not by memory but by being told.

[Iridium]

Well the problem with turning Ven into a nobody is since heartless didn't exist so didn't nobodies.

And Xemnas along with the other members DID remember what it was like to be human (at least the founders of the org).
The only thing Xemnas had trouble remembering was his life before nursed back to health by AtW, though he does hold his own secrets as knowing Aqua or at least Aquas armor in the room of sleep.

[meep2meep]

Originally Posted by Yttrxium

Well the problem with turning Ven into a nobody is since heartless didn't exist so didn't nobodies.

And Xemnas along with the other members DID remember what it was like to be human (at least the founders of the org).
The only thing Xemnas had trouble remembering was his life before nursed back to health by AtW, though he does hold his own secrets as knowing Aqua or at least Aquas armor in the room of sleep.

ok 2 questions

1) heartless were created by ansem the wise and darkness in peoples hearts were they not? (It would make sence that experimentations were done on the unbirths to create the 1st hearless along with the first nobody)
2) How sure are we that it was xemnas visiting aquas armor... like were told its xemnas but he never takes his hood off so we can we be sure its him...

[Iridium]

1) Heartless were created by Xehanort, basically Ansems research paved the way for Xehanort to toy with peoples hearts creating a heartless in the process (Read both editions of the Ansem's reports from KH1 and KH2).

2) Xemnas along with his colleagues created the room of sleep, he had a password, it was Xemnas's voice.
Watch the voices FM+ cutscenes and you'll recognize his voice as Xemnas, and it was clearly Aqua's armor.