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Old 08/19/08, 12:00 AM   #61
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Well Riku was far behind Sora, so by that time he would discover Sora in the pod.
With the real or not real twilight town, either twilight town would consist of Sora in a pod.

The same thing happened in KH2 with Roxas in the Data Twilight town meeting Sora in the Sleeper pod.
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Old 08/19/08, 12:07 AM   #62
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the sora and roxas thing i can actually explain... it was just like trons world roxas was turned into data.....
Just as how his memories were being restored through data. Thats why roxas' dreams were fuzy like a tv screen,

Yeah Axel did open a portal to the digital world, he could have done it in space paranoids as well but I dont think that where sora had his memories restored is where he went to sleep
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Old 08/19/08, 01:25 AM   #63
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ok but if (even though this isnt proven yet) roxas is somehow ven... what would have happened if sora was turned into a heartless while ven was alive... and as for random people i was refering more to organization members... after kh2 what if their hearts are restored would a replica nobody be created or?
Technically Nomura can in fact do whatever he wants. I mean did you play KH2. Ansem wasn''t ansem, everything you believed was false. People can destroy heartless without keyblades. Riku looked like Xemnas or xehanort or ansem howvere you want to look at it.

If Nomura wanted to turn around and say it was all just a dream and next thing you know Ven wakes up in his bed he can do that and he'll have everyone eating out of his hands likes hungry anxious puppies.
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People could destroy heartless without a Keyblade in KHI.
And if you paid attention to the plot, none of those things would seem odd.

And about the main question:
Well, Sora has two nobodies. And if you regain your body and are then captured by heartless again, I guess you could become a nobody again and have a "second" nobody.
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Old 08/19/08, 04:17 AM   #66
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If you're implying that you think Kairi might have more than one Nobody (the 14th), as much as many others vehemently reject it, I believe it to be possible. I mean, I don't know if I believe it to be true, and I'm not sure if Nomura will go down that path, but...

Let's look at some facts.

Namine:

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In other words, both the Nobody called Naminé and the Heartless—proof of a lost heart—are extremely unstable beings who lack the bodies needed to produce a Nobody. Therefore, they also lack Kairi's memories. One reason for this maybe that Kairi's heart did not return to the darkness when separated from her body, but rather migrated to another vessel...deep within Sora's heart.

She is a "non-being" in the truest sense of the word; having not even become a Nobody and with nowhere left to go, she is but the most fleeting of shadows.

Naminé.

As I have written before, she is a most unusual being.

Born of the same process as a Nobody, but lacking virtually all the elements of a Nobody.

Naminé emerged as Kairi's Nobody...but the body and soul necessary to exist as a Nobody belonged to Sora.
She was not created directly from a body and soul, since they were Sora's (Roxas was born from the body and soul). As said in the SAR, she lacks the body and soul that true Nobodies have. In other words, she was created by the mere process of Kairi's heart being released from Sora, not the leftover parts. It makes sense. If something that is nonexistent can be born, why would it need a body and soul as an existing catalyst? So long as the process of the heart being released occurs, regardless of the condition of the being, Namine was born.

If this is true, then it could very well be that another Special Nobody (Shion perhaps) was created when Kairi initially lost her heart. Kairi's body stayed in the realm of light since she is a PoH, but a Nobody could have been born from the process of her heart being released. If Namine can be made without a body and soul, so can that other hypothetical Nobody.

Again, I'm not saying that I do indeed think this is the case, but it is a possibility.
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no never negative absolutely not
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But thats just my point... We already have exceptions... whats stopping Nomura for creating more?
actually roxas was soras and namine was kairis. took me forever to understand ansem reports and i dont feel like explaining it.
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I'd rather her not, but due to the reasons GA posted a few up, it is possible.
Though I'd really really rather not.

And the whole thing where we saw her body during the course of KH1 kinda seems to disprove it though at the same time.
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Old 08/19/08, 11:47 AM   #70
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Ok I know this sounds crazy.... All with the exception that Namine and Roxas became whole again or what ever gay thing they did; all other nobody's kinds just faded from existance...

Sora got rid of (in order) Larxene, Marluxia, Demyx, Xaldin, Xigbar, Luxord, Saiix, then Xemnas

Riku merked Lexaus and Zexion...

Axel stabbed Vexen in the back....literally. XD, Then he just kinda killed himself I guess?

Thats what we know so far/ what I'm wondering because people just dont seem to see my logic..

What happens when the nobody of a person once it is destroyed (yes i know it just kinda fades away cause it doesnt really exist bla bla bla...).

Normal person (or not)--> killed (turned into strong heartless and weak nobody or reverse... so were told except for Xeonart...weird huh). In the scenario that an actually form is kept in createion of a nobody (org xiii) is it possible that the nobody can be restored? Not out of nowhere but hearts can be returned to their normal form without having their nobody become whole... so far so good?

Lets say for example for who ever would have likes to see this happen... either Namine or Roxas (preferably not Roxas) never returned to Sora or Kairi. Would they just continue to exist without a Nobody? Or would it not matter if Roxas or Namine returned to darkness and instead they returned to their Somebody with no reccolection of being a nobody (as if never existing in the 1st place) even though weve seen what happens when they become whole again...

I want to know if a random person is killed (and then their nobody is killed) but somehow that individual becomes their former self does their nobody return to them (if it was killed)... Yes i know that makes no sence...

So again using Sora/ Roxas, if Roxas was killed (after Kairi restored Sora) but then Sora somehow turned into a heartless AGAIN would Roxas be born again or a dusk in his place?
Well, obviously not simultaeneously, but perhaps consecutively? There doesn't seem to be anything that strictly says that Sora can't produce another Nobody now that he's merged again with Roxas.
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Old 08/20/08, 12:03 AM   #71
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Well, obviously not simultaeneously, but perhaps consecutively? There doesn't seem to be anything that strictly says that Sora can't produce another Nobody now that he's merged again with Roxas.
yeah but theoretically it should be roxas again... or just a dusk (want to get specific a duel wielder)... I'm more curious what would happen if it wasnt sora or kairi...
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