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Old 08/17/08, 08:57 PM   #16
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i wouldnt think they would have one cause BBS have 3 differnt characters to play as and 358 just wouldnt need one.
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Old 08/17/08, 08:58 PM   #17
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the plot was changed in Re: CoM??? :confused:
why was i not told???
Mostly plot holes that didn't sit in with what they did in KH2 (amongst them hintings Namine wasn't created when she was supposed to XD; ). also understood they changed some of the Org members' deaths oO

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i wouldnt think they would have one cause BBS have 3 differnt characters to play as and 358 just wouldnt need one.
The number of scenarios doesn't matter as long as they'll do each one properly
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Old 08/17/08, 09:35 PM   #18
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I hope thats not true.. I would really like to know when and how they get their armour
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Old 08/17/08, 09:41 PM   #19
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I hope thats not true.. I would really like to know when and how they get their armour
I think the picture in your signature shows they had armor from the get go. Them getting the full armor will either be a plot event or part of the game's "growth" system.
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Old 08/17/08, 10:09 PM   #20
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Let's hope BBS and Days won't HAVE FMs.
And I don't think it's fair to compare CoM and Re:CoM. For starters it's on different platforms. And then a lot of the plot was changed, as opposed to scenes added in the other FMs.
It's effectively a different game thus unfair to compare them like that.
It was needed to be changed, Nomura made Namine a Nobody and added a couple more things from KH II to Re: CoM


And of course hopefully BBS and Days won't have FMs, that is just an excuse to add in new subplots and what not like Xemnas being introduced in Final Mix
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Old 08/17/08, 10:13 PM   #21
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It was needed to be changed, Nomura made Namine a Nobody and added a couple more things from KH II to Re: CoM
It's hinted enough she's a Nobody in the original CoM, too. Axel said so - "Nobodies like us".
I think Nomura just originally wanted to have her created when Kairi's Heart moved from her Body to Sora's as was AtW's original theory, but then realized it didn't make sense since Kairi's Body and Soul were there all along.
Then he had to change her saying she's been along for "so long" because he moved when she was created.

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And of course hopefully BBS and Days won't have FMs, that is just an excuse to add in new subplots and what not like Xemnas being introduced in Final Mix
Xemnas was added because Nomura already planned Nobodies. More so than it being a detached sub-plot, it was further basing for what was to come ahead.
When you think about it like that, BBS and Days actually have the best potential to have FMs in a way. Then again you say they're already retrospective games and then if they miss things they needed to put in later in FMs then they fail.
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Old 08/17/08, 10:39 PM   #22
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GODFCKINGDAMNIT. IS IT SO HARD TO WRITE IN A NORMAL WAY?

Seriously, I'm not English but at least I TRY TO WRITE DECENT. Have you ever heard of COMMA'S and DOTS and CAPITALS?

AAAARGH. Seriously, if you are Dyslexic I can understand if you don't make use of comma's and shit, but if you aren't, PLEASE USE THEM. Don't be lazy and wrte lik tis caus its very fcking anooying.
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Old 08/17/08, 10:52 PM   #23
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GODFCKINGDAMNIT. IS IT SO HARD TO WRITE IN A NORMAL WAY?

Seriously, I'm not English but at least I TRY TO WRITE DECENT. Have you ever heard of COMMA'S and DOTS and CAPITALS?

AAAARGH. Seriously, if you are Dyslexic I can understand if you don't make use of comma's and shit, but if you aren't, PLEASE USE THEM. Don't be lazy and wrte lik tis caus its very fcking anooying.
I'm actually gifted but that's besides the point. I can try and cut my sentences in half if that's what's bothering you, but leave my capitals alone, they're fine.
Now, if it's the length of what I write that bugs you, well... I can't very much help that, now can I?
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Old 08/17/08, 10:58 PM   #24
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It's hinted enough she's a Nobody in the original CoM, too. Axel said so - "Nobodies like us".
I think Nomura just originally wanted to have her created when Kairi's Heart moved from her Body to Sora's as was AtW's original theory, but then realized it didn't make sense since Kairi's Body and Soul were there all along.
Then he had to change her saying she's been along for "so long" because he moved when she was created.



Xemnas was added because Nomura already planned Nobodies. More so than it being a detached sub-plot, it was further basing for what was to come ahead.
When you think about it like that, BBS and Days actually have the best potential to have FMs in a way. Then again you say they're already retrospective games and then if they miss things they needed to put in later in FMs then they fail.
ZE IS RONG! Namine wasn't intended ever to be a Nobody when CoM was released, as far as we knew then, she was a human
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Old 08/17/08, 11:01 PM   #25
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No. It wouldn't be different.
Yes he used the armor to hide their faces because he wasn't completely sure what they looked like yet, but he expressed that he knew what the secret ending was about, and what the game was about overall. Meaning he had the plot of BBS already figured in his mind around that time. Nothing would have been changed.

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ZE IS RONG! Namine wasn't intended ever to be a Nobody when CoM was released, as far as we knew then, she was a human
Actually you're wrong. No matter how many times PMF may say it, Naminé was clearly a Nobody in CoM.
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Old 08/17/08, 11:04 PM   #26
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ZE IS RONG! Namine wasn't intended ever to be a Nobody when CoM was released, as far as we knew then, she was a human
That line is still there and still hints about something, like Namine saying how she's Kairi's shadow (possibly refering to rewriting some of Sora's Memories of Kairi, but seeing how the most important ones we see have nothing to do with Kairi, I dislike that explanation).
Also, Nomura saying originally Namine had nothing to do with Kairi doesn't hold. Seeing how people understood what Roxas was to Sora just from Deep Dive and one of the Ansem Reports added in the Final Mix, people would've easily understood what Namine was.
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Old 08/17/08, 11:06 PM   #27
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They never made it clear in CoM whether or not Namine was a nobody. Therefore, when she was declared a Nobody in Kingdom Hearts 2, tons of people assumed that they changed it for story purposes.

Who really cares though? It doesn't matter either way.
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Old 08/17/08, 11:30 PM   #28
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They drop plenty of hints that she was a Nobody in CoM.
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Old 08/18/08, 03:51 AM   #29
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GODFCKINGDAMNIT. IS IT SO HARD TO WRITE IN A NORMAL WAY?

Seriously, I'm not English but at least I TRY TO WRITE DECENT. Have you ever heard of COMMA'S and DOTS and CAPITALS?

AAAARGH. Seriously, if you are Dyslexic I can understand if you don't make use of comma's and shit, but if you aren't, PLEASE USE THEM. Don't be lazy and wrte lik tis caus its very fcking anooying.
umm, ur a little late. try and read b4 u post.

and btw, even though ritig lik ths is very annoying, ur avvy is just plain disgusting. *glares at the yaoi*
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Old 08/18/08, 03:55 AM   #30
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umm, ur a little late. try and read b4 u post.

and btw, even though ritig lik ths is very annoying, ur avvy is just plain disgusting. *glares at the yaoi*
Is this better for you?
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