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Old 08/15/08, 03:44 AM   #31
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A Nobody is only rarely made when a Heartless is.
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Old 08/15/08, 03:45 AM   #32
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Depends on how strong the heart is so, I can imagine they are small in number.
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Old 08/15/08, 03:45 AM   #33
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Depends on how strong the heart is so, I can imagine they are small in number.
Like Xeharont, he was the only one that could spond two.
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Old 08/15/08, 03:51 AM   #34
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Alright, let me just explain a few more things on my mind.

Whether or not the body dies from the soul being extracted is irrevelent. R-K, I'm going to go look at those Reports in a moment, but I trust what you say, so I won't do so immediately.

Similarily, it doesn't matter whether or not a Nobody is formed when a Heartless is born; a Heartless would still be a Heartless either way.

So, if a soul leaves the body before the human's time has come, or is extracted by force rather than leaving the body naturally, then I'm theorizing that the soul wanders and turns into an Unbirth. Perhaps like a ghost, in general idea. It's a soul that hasn't gone to the afterlife.

In KH1-KH2, we never see someone's soul extracted, so of course we'd never see an Unbirth. Whether or not that's the reason they're extinct is a mystery.
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Old 08/15/08, 03:54 AM   #35
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According to gameplay visuals they are very fast creatures. They seem to disappear fast kind of like ghosts.
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Old 08/15/08, 04:08 AM   #36
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They're actually flash stepping really.
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Old 08/15/08, 04:09 AM   #37
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Like Xeharont, he was the only one that could spond two.
Err say what?

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Alright, let me just explain a few more things on my mind.

Whether or not the body dies from the soul being extracted is irrevelent. R-K, I'm going to go look at those Reports in a moment, but I trust what you say, so I won't do so immediately.

Similarily, it doesn't matter whether or not a Nobody is formed when a Heartless is born; a Heartless would still be a Heartless either way.

So, if a soul leaves the body before the human's time has come, or is extracted by force rather than leaving the body naturally, then I'm theorizing that the soul wanders and turns into an Unbirth. Perhaps like a ghost, in general idea. It's a soul that hasn't gone to the afterlife.

In KH1-KH2, we never see someone's soul extracted, so of course we'd never see an Unbirth. Whether or not that's the reason they're extinct is a mystery.
Some being killed would be equivalent to the soul being extracted before the human's time has come.
And we've seen Repliku die.
And just because the few characters we have seen havent died that way doesnt mean there couldnt be other people out there that did. And it doesnt really explain how Unbirths can be the starting point of Heartless and Nobodies, it seems like something completely different.
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Old 08/15/08, 04:19 AM   #38
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Hmmm the soul seems to be the pirmary source of a person if you look at what ansem said.
Soul body and heart.
THose are the ELEMENTS OF A person.
When the heart is taken over by darkness the body and soul form a nobody and heart is turned in to a heartless.
What about when only soul and heart remain. What about when the soul itsself just reminds?
To be born means to be born with yourself as in your heart and soul (what is you)
What if unbirth is just the term for reversing the birth cycle?
This theory kind of opened my eyes up to that possiblity.
Seeing as how SOUL is the only factor not throughly investigate dint he series.
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Err say what?


Some being killed would be equivalent to the soul being extracted before the human's time has come.
And we've seen Repliku die.
And just because the few characters we have seen havent died that way doesnt mean there couldnt be other people out there that did. And it doesnt really explain how Unbirths can be the starting point of Heartless and Nobodies, it seems like something completely different.
Sorry if I didn't make this clear enough, but I was saying that Xehanort had a Heartless and a Nobody because he had a strong heart.
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So, a soul, that left a body that was perfectly fine for living in, is an Unbirth? Its a good theory that ive heard so far. RK's is really good, though. I think these are both good theories.
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Old 08/15/08, 10:13 AM   #41
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The fact that the series is called Kingdom Hearts?

Well according to the events of KH I the Keyblade chooses its master/weilder/whatever you want to call them based on the strength of the person's heart, or they can be transfered to a new wielder as slong as the new weilder has an acceptable heart.

One one the main funtions of the Keyblade is to lock (or unlock) the door that lead to the Hearts of the Worlds. So the Keyblade seems primarily concerned with hearts.
And then CoM came and showed us another aspect of it all, being Memories - it affects the Heart, true, but is not the Heart itself.
As for the Keyblade, the only thing we actually yes know about her is her relation to the Keyholes.
We don't know a single thing saying it can't affect other things as well.
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