Facepalm.jpeg My god, I hope I'm wrong...

[PK Shitstorm]

One screen shot where Xion is using just magic isn't enough to confirm that she is sharing a keyblade with Roxas. Well, technically there were two, but you understand what I mean.

Of course it isn't, it's just an idea, but with what we have as of now, it looks like they are not using it at the same time IF they are using the same one. If not, then yea, Shion's could def be fake.

And if she did share one with Roxas, why would Riku call it fake? Roxas' keyblade is the real deal.

Exactly, so it makes you wonder if that keyblade is fake or not.
Nobodies can't use keyblades, because they have no heart. Rox is a debate, because I believe he has Ven's heart, but that is a whole dif topic, but even still if that were not the case, then Rox and Sora share a heart.

Xion/Shion, as far as we know, is a nobody. Nobodies don't have hearts, thus, no keyblade. So unless she has a heart in some way, that keyblade she has more than likely IS fake.

Zulkir: That thought crossed my mind, but I don't really have enough info about Unbirths to call that now.
Pfft, maybe Xion is Sora's unborn twin.

[KINGDOM_BLADE]

Originally Posted by PK Shitstorm

I have a possible explanation for that, but PMF will just whine and bitch about it.

So I'll tell you:
Ven to Aqua: "life sucks, my friend is corrupted and I can't live without him, erase me"
Aqua: "Sure, but I don't want you to die completely, so I'll just erase your memories, rip your heart out, and put into some random kid on an island so you'll live on as him"
Ven: "Wait, wha--?"
10 yrs later
Sora: "HUR HUR I'M GONNA STAB MY SELF, BECAUSE I'M THE MESSIAH OF THIS GAME. BRB"
Ven pops up in twilight town: "I don't remember shit. Huh, my name is Roxas? Okay~ la la la"

Hmmm that is actually what I have started to think happened, but if that is what happened that would probably mean that Aqua would somehow have to be able to rearrange Sora and Ven's memories. But that brings up the question of how the heck did she learn how to rearrange memories, unless she was like Namine and just happened to have that power.

[JH]

Originally Posted by PK Shitstorm

Of course it isn't, it's just an idea, but with what we have as of now, it looks like they are not using it at the same time IF they are using the same one. If not, then yea, Shion's could def be fake.


Exactly, so it makes you wonder if that keyblade is fake or not.
Nobodies can't use keyblades, because they have no heart. Rox is a debate, because I believe he has Ven's heart, but that is a whole dif topic, but even still if that were not the case, then Rox and Sora share a heart.

Xion/Shion, as far as we know, is a nobody. Nobodies don't have hearts, thus, no keyblade. So unless she has a heart in some way, that keyblade she has more than likely IS fake.

Zulkir: That thought crossed my mind, but I don't really have enough info about Unbirths to call that now.
Pfft, maybe Xion is Sora's unborn twin.

Well, considering I believe that Xion is Aqua's nobody, I see no reason why she wouldn't have a heart if Roxas did as well. Of course, that would then cancel out everything else in your theory, so for the sake of the argument I'll ignore that for now.

How would Roxas and Xion be able to 'share' a keyblade, if the keyblade attaches itself to ones heart?

[PK Shitstorm]

Hmmm that is actually what I have started to think happened, but if that is what happened that would probably mean that Aqua would somehow have to be able to rearrange Sora and Ven's memories. But that brings up the question of how the heck did she learn how to rearrange memories, unless she was like Namine and just happened to have that power.

Which is why, I think Aqua is related to Kairi. My fav idea is that they are sisters, and Aqua's ability to mess with memories, skipped Kairi and went to Namine. Something like that.

[Organization_42]

I hope this theory's not the case, that would just be overkill for me. Roxas' birth makes sense, Namine's makes sense, but for a human to produce two/three Nobodies seems impossible according to the way it's set up by the KH universe. It seems like Xion is connected to Sora, but it's probably some other way.

Plus, you'll notice that in KH2, the process of Sora recovering his memories didn't really start to speed up until after Roxas, his Nobody, was captured and placed nearby. If Xion is another Nobody of Sora's, wouldn't she also be helpful with this? We know she disappears for some reason, but it can't be the same way Roxas did. If they both merged with Sora, that would be really hard and confusing to explain, right?

And you can't really produce a Nobody of the opposite sex anyway. The only reason why Sora could help bring about Namine's birth was because she mainly came from Kairi's heart, who is a girl. She is essentially Kairi's Nobody, with a little aid from Sora.

Originally Posted by PK Shitstorm

So I'll tell you:
Ven to Aqua: "life sucks, my friend is corrupted and I can't live without him, erase me"
Aqua: "Sure, but I don't want you to die completely, so I'll just erase your memories, rip your heart out, and put into some random kid on an island so you'll live on as him"
Ven: "Wait, wha--?"
10 yrs later
Sora: "HUR HUR I'M GONNA STAB MY SELF, BECAUSE I'M THE MESSIAH OF THIS GAME. BRB"

LOL

Originally Posted by PK Shitstorm

Ven pops up in twilight town: "I don't remember shit. Huh, my name is Roxas? Okay~ la la la"

One problem: Ven isn't Roxas. Nomura's already said that they're two different characters. He may be connected to Sora/Roxas in some way, but not like that.

Originally Posted by PK Shitstorm

But when Riku said it was fake, she kinda hesitated. Like it was true. Also, remember that Rox has that same keyblade as well. If what you say is true, that would mean that there are two kingdom keys, and shion and Rox are sharing one?
They don't use it at the same time it seems.

Technically, we don't even know if that's Xion in the pictures when Roxas is fighting. It's the most likely scenario, and the magazine seems to think so, but if we can't see her face, we can't be 100% sure. Xemnas likes to wear his hood a lot; for all we know, it could be him. And there's a small pic of Axel and Roxas fighting in what looks like one of the dungeons from Beast's Castle, so heck, it could even be him.

Again, I think it probably is Xion, but I wouldn't use it as evidence that she shares her Keyblade with Roxas just yet.

[JH]

Originally Posted by Organization_42

And you can't really produce a Nobody of the opposite sex anyway.

Says who?

Originally Posted by Organization_42

One problem: Ven isn't Roxas. Nomura's already said that they're two different characters. He may be connected to Sora/Roxas in some way, but not like that.

If Ven was developed by the way PK suggested, then that would imply that they are two different people. He's suggesting that Ven's heart was placed into Sora, thus releasing a look alike of Ven later on.

However, I believe that instead of his heart, Ven's soul was placed into Sora. It would only make sense, seeing as the Nobody is made up of the soul, and Roxas looks like Ven.

[PK Shitstorm]

Well, considering I believe that Xion is Aqua's nobody, I see no reason why she wouldn't have a heart if Roxas did as well. Of course, that would then cancel out everything else in your theory, so for the sake of the argument I'll ignore that for now.

I believed that too, but even if that were the case, Xion would still have no heart. (as far as we know) Roxas having a heart either has to do with Ven's heart, or because Sora is still alive and walking around.

Aqua, (Again, as far as we know) isn't up and about, nor are there any hints of her heart being sent to someone else like my idea with Ven.

How would Roxas and Xion be able to 'share' a keyblade, if the keyblade attaches itself to ones heart?

Well, if this idea I posted is right about Xion being part of Sora, then that would sorta answer your question. They all share one (unless the case of Ven's heart in Rox) heart, therefore, one keyblade?

If not right, and Xion IS Aqua's nobody, then the key she has would be fake.

[Organization_42]

Originally Posted by JakeH

Says who?

A Nobody is produced by the body and soul left behind from someone who lost their heart. So it would imply that if that person is a boy, the body left behind remains that of a boy, and vice versa.

Originally Posted by JakeH

If Ven was developed by the way PK suggested, then that would imply that they are two different people. He's suggesting that Ven's heart was placed into Sora, thus releasing a look alike of Ven later on.

That would make Roxas Ven's Nobody, not Sora's. Because Roxas successfully merged with Sora in KH2, and they have distinct similarities that the other Organization members recognized, that can't be his relation to Ven.

Originally Posted by JakeH

However, I believe that instead of his heart, Ven's soul was placed into Sora. It would only make sense, seeing as the Nobody is made up of the soul, and Roxas looks like Ven.

That makes more sense.

Besides, if Aqua actually removed Ven's heart, wouldn't his body and soul automatically produce a Nobody? He doesn't have a pure heart like Kairi.

[PK Shitstorm]

I hope this theory's not the case, that would just be overkill for me. Roxas' birth makes sense, Namine's makes sense, but for a human to produce two/three Nobodies seems impossible according to the way it's set up by the KH universe. It seems like Xion is connected to Sora, but it's probably some other way.

Because Sora IS KH. PLOT TWIST. (I'm actually hoping for that. >>; )
But yes, it would be overkill. >:

Plus, you'll notice that in KH2, the process of Sora recovering his memories didn't really start to speed up until after Roxas, his Nobody, was captured and placed nearby. If Xion is another Nobody of Sora's, wouldn't she also be helpful with this? We know she disappears for some reason, but it can't be the same way Roxas did. If they both merged with Sora, that would be really hard and confusing to explain, right?

It wouldn't be all THAT hard to explain. You almost explained it yourself.

And you can't really produce a Nobody of the opposite sex anyway. The only reason why Sora could help bring about Namine's birth was because she mainly came from Kairi's heart, who is a girl. She is essentially Kairi's Nobody, with a little aid from Sora.

Actually, Kairi has little to do with Nami even though that is her nobody.
She was made from Sora's body and Soul and Kairi's heart, yet Nami has no body, soul or heart. She truly is a 'nobody' in a literal sense.

So really, it could be possible to create a nobody of the opposite sex in some magical completely-does-not-make-sense-way like Namine.

Srsly, Nami's creation is a plot hole that barely makes sense, yet she is my fav female character. >:

One problem: Ven isn't Roxas. Nomura's already said that they're two different characters. He may be connected to Sora/Roxas in some way, but not like that.

Sora and Rox are two dif characters, yet the same person.
And here you have two characters that use the exact same body and voice.

Technically, we don't even know if that's Xion in the pictures when Roxas is fighting. It's the most likely scenario, and the magazine seems to think so, but if we can't see her face, we can't be 100% sure. Xemnas likes to wear his hood a lot; for all we know, it could be him. And there's a small pic of Axel and Roxas fighting in what looks like one of the dungeons from Beast's Castle, so heck, it could even be him.

Again, I think it probably is Xion, but I wouldn't use it as evidence that she shares her Keyblade with Roxas just yet.

Roxas fighting? Don't you mean Riku? I'm talking about the fight between Riku and Xion.

Besides, if Aqua actually removed Ven's heart, wouldn't his body and soul automatically produce a Nobody? He doesn't have a pure heart like Kairi.

Or DOES he?
Besides, Aqua was told to erase him, which probably meant his body and soul as well. (aka death. sorta. f*cking KH not making a lick of sense)

[Pablo Honey]

har har. i lol'd

[Chevalier Sombre]

oh lol sup batto

Anyhow, it is currently too late for me to give indepth input so I will do that later. But for now, wouldn't surprise me if this was true, what with Shion using the KK and all.

Oh and:

First off, I'd like the say....Shion? Har Har...psycho bitch that has an obsession with a dead guy and kills his sister...oh man, I'm gonna have fun with that one.

-cough- anyway...

:3 So yandere.

[.:Raz:.]

Eh, I hope not, but it's possible.

-cough-
How is this possible? Pfft, if Sora can crap out two nobodies, one female, and one male, I sure wouldn't doubt this happening. -rolls eyes-

I did a part laugh part barf on this analogy.

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Originally Posted by Organization_42

Plus, you'll notice that in KH2, the process of Sora recovering his memories didn't really start to speed up until after Roxas, his Nobody, was captured and placed nearby. If Xion is another Nobody of Sora's, wouldn't she also be helpful with this? We know she disappears for some reason, but it can't be the same way Roxas did. If they both merged with Sora, that would be really hard and confusing to explain, right?

I agree I dont believe Xion is another nobody of Sora's.
What I was thinking has to do with the whole Ven's memories are in Sora idea, and is that Xion is a Memory of Ven's and since Ven's memories would be in Sora, she wouldnt technically be a real nobody, just a memory of a nobody or person that Ven knew about, Xion probably would've had no emotions like a nobody, and because of that she was excepted into Orginization XIII because she appeared to be a nobody even though she wasnt. And the reason why she would dissappear is she would merge back with Sora but not like Roxas this would be more along the lines of finding a way to turn her back into a memory so she may be put back where she belongs.

This probably sounds like it is way way way over done, but I have a feeling this may be what happened.

[PK Shitstorm]

Originally Posted by HadesDragon

oh lol sup batto

Anyhow, it is currently too late for me to give indepth input so I will do that later. But for now, wouldn't surprise me if this was true, what with Shion using the KK and all.

Oh and:





:3 So yandere.

So delicious. I can't wait till see what she looks like so I can edit that gif.
Or, I could just do it with the hood on, but showing her face.

Now apologize 100 times.

[Organization_42]

Originally Posted by PK Shitstorm

It wouldn't be all THAT hard to explain. You almost explained it yourself.

How could two Nobodies merge with Sora like that, and at different times, no less? It'd be pretty hard for me to swallow at least. Besides Namine told Roxas, "You hold half of what he is." Half, not 1/3.

Originally Posted by PK Shitstorm

Actually, Kairi has little to do with Nami even though that is her nobody.
She was made from Sora's body and Soul and Kairi's heart, yet Nami has no body, soul or heart. She truly is a 'nobody' in a literal sense.

So really, it could be possible to create a nobody of the opposite sex in some magical completely-does-not-make-sense-way like Namine.

But you just said yourself that Namine doesn't really have a body or soul then. She's not using Sora's body, that belongs to Roxas. It's somewhat plausible to say that Namine was created via Kairi's heart, but Roxas was already created through Sora's heart, so what's left over? No other hearts were released from Sora's body, therefore, no other Nobody could have been created.

Originally Posted by PK Shitstorm

Sora and Rox are two dif characters, yet the same person.
And here you have two characters that use the exact same body and voice.

That's different. From what I understand, you're essentially saying that Ven's heart awoke in Twilight Town after being released from Sora's body. Xemnas mistook him for Sora's Nobody, took him in, and named him Roxas. That would make Roxas Ven.

Originally Posted by PK Shitstorm

Roxas fighting? Don't you mean Riku? I'm talking about the fight between Riku and Xion.

I was referring to the part where you were talking about Roxas and Xion sharing Keyblades, based on the scans of him fighting alongside a hooded member. I was saying that because the member was hooded, just because the magazine thinks he was fighting alongside Xion doesn't necessarily mean it was her.

Originally Posted by PK Shitstorm

Or DOES he?
Besides, Aqua was told to erase him, which probably meant his body and soul as well. (aka death. sorta. f*cking KH not making a lick of sense)

But isn't the soul supposed to be the part that provides life? If the soul is gone, wouldn't the heart die too?