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Old 08/04/08, 07:47 PM   #1
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I won't be surprised if this one has already been stated, and I'm not really one to share my theories, but here goes.

My theory relates to Terra, in fact, being Xehanort. And the first thing that caught my eye like many others, was when Xehanort makes Kingdom Hearts appear, Terra's eyes change color. Now we see after the SE party that Malificent notes that Terra has a hidden desire for power. Old man Xehanort is continuously trying to acquire Terra. Could that mean the Terra is being tempted?

Ansem finds a youth injured and near death in Radiant Garden, calling himself Xehanort. We also see that young Xehanort's hair matches that of Terra. In the trailer, Mickey enters the battlefield at the end to lend a hand. As Terra's eye color changes, is it possible that he is being corrupted by the sight of Kingdom Hearts? And at that point, is his hair starting to change its color as well? And his memories of Xehanort are related to him calling himself Xehanort when Ansem finds him at Radiant Garden.

Finally, we have the "Old Friend" and "Room of Sleep" cut scenes in KH2: FM+. Xigbar mentions that Xemnas is talking to someone in the "Room of Sleep." And there he calls Aquas armor, "old friend." Xigbar also mentions that he is looking for the "Room of Awakening," which is possibly in Castle Oblivion. Xigbar also mentions the possibility of where the other "friend" is. Eventually, they find Roxas, who looks exactly like Ven, and wields the keyblade like Ven. And not to mention, since Roxas is the 13th member, even after a 14th had joined, Xemnas kept the name of Organization XIII. Could it be because Roxas is the other "friend?"

Let's say that Castle Oblivion wasn't the Room of Awakening. Where then would it be? Roxas was found at the old mansion, and Sora awakened within the mansion. Perhaps that place was the room that he was seeking.
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Old 08/04/08, 08:04 PM   #2
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I understand why they brought Roxas in(other than the sora crap). Either he reminded them of Ven, or they thought he as Ven. Terra seems to be struggling ith darkness, becuase he Allies with Malificent in BBS. THen again, it seems he is trying to just get info from her.
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I used to doubt that Terra could be Xehanort... but your theory was pretty solid. It'd be an interesting, and sad plot twist. The eye-colour, the temptation from MX and Maleficent, the hair, Ansem finding him at Radiant Garden, and the Xemnas talking to the suit of armour... it's all very possible.

Maybe Terra actually loses to MX, and ends up beaten and memory-less at Radiant Garden.
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In my opinion, the eye-colour change gave it away right off the bat.

We'll see what happens.
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Old 08/04/08, 08:18 PM   #5
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In my opinion, the eye-colour change gave it away right off the bat.

We'll see what happens.
yeah. The whole Gold colored eye thing gave away the relation.
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I really doubted the Terra/ Xehanort thing but your theory has potential.
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I won't be surprised if this one has already been stated, and I'm not really one to share my theories, but here goes.

My theory relates to Terra, in fact, being Xehanort. And the first thing that caught my eye like many others, was when Xehanort makes Kingdom Hearts appear, Terra's eyes change color.
Terra's eyes glow a bright shade of yellow. Xehanort the apprentice's eyes are brown, Xehanort's Heartless and Xemnas' eyes are orange. No, they're not the same color.

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Now we see after the SE party that Malificent notes that Terra has a hidden desire for power. Old man Xehanort is continuously trying to acquire Terra. Could that mean the Terra is being tempted?
Might be. It'd fit, since Terra is supposed to be connected to Riku in some way, and that's the path Riku went down in KH1.

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Ansem finds a youth injured and near death in Radiant Garden, calling himself Xehanort. We also see that young Xehanort's hair matches that of Terra. In the trailer, Mickey enters the battlefield at the end to lend a hand. As Terra's eye color changes, is it possible that he is being corrupted by the sight of Kingdom Hearts? And at that point, is his hair starting to change its color as well? And his memories of Xehanort are related to him calling himself Xehanort when Ansem finds him at Radiant Garden.
Why would his hair have changed color?

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Finally, we have the "Old Friend" and "Room of Sleep" cut scenes in KH2: FM+. Xigbar mentions that Xemnas is talking to someone in the "Room of Sleep." And there he calls Aquas armor, "old friend."
That could be taken as evidence that he's Terra, but it doesn't have to mean that. He could be using "friend" for lack of a better term, as in, he doesn't remember anything about Aqua except that he knew her, but he wants to call her something, and "friend" is the first thing that comes to mind.

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Xigbar also mentions that he is looking for the "Room of Awakening," which is possibly in Castle Oblivion. Xigbar also mentions the possibility of where the other "friend" is. Eventually, they find Roxas, who looks exactly like Ven, and wields the keyblade like Ven. And not to mention, since Roxas is the 13th member, even after a 14th had joined, Xemnas kept the name of Organization XIII. Could it be because Roxas is the other "friend?"

Let's say that Castle Oblivion wasn't the Room of Awakening. Where then would it be? Roxas was found at the old mansion, and Sora awakened within the mansion. Perhaps that place was the room that he was seeking.
I don't think the friend is Roxas, and I'm pretty sure the Room of Awakening WAS in Castle Oblivion, since it's been hinted that there's more to the castle than we know of right now.

Anyhow, there are two problems with your theory: one is the lack of explanation for the change of hair color that I noted above, the other is the fact that MX being part of Xehanort is absent from the theory (though this isn't so much as a problem as it is my opinion based on educated guesses). Xehanort is just too similar for MX to not be part of him somehow, at least as far as I'm concerned.
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Jeez put his whole theory down wy dont u .
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1.Might be. It'd fit, since Terra is supposed to be connected to Riku in some way, and that's the path Riku went down in KH1.

2.Why would his hair have changed color?

3.Anyhow, there are two problems with your theory: one is the lack of explanation for the change of hair color that I noted above, the other is the fact that MX being part of Xehanort is absent from the theory (though this isn't so much as a problem as it is my opinion based on educated guesses). Xehanort is just too similar for MX to not be part of him somehow, at least as far as I'm concerned.

1.when did they say Terra was connected to Riku? anyways, they talked about how Terra was supposedly choosing darkness to gain more power, so yeah, that's the path that Riku went down. apparently if he does do that and becomes young Xehanort that's how they're connected, since Riku was connected to Xehanort in KH1 by choosing that same path.

2. the darkness could very well have tainted him, therefore changing his appearance. that's what happened to Riku, only he changed (in appearance) into a whole different person (Xehanort) but that's only because they were connected as one in the first game, otherwise the change probably wouldn't have been that drastic.

3. i explained the hair color already, and as my own little explanation i think that MX is not the same as the Xehanort from KH1. i think it is Terra, and that he assumed the name Xehanort after his "transformation". in the secret ending video, it says "memories of Xehanort" at one point. maybe in his transformation, he lost some of his memories, such as who he was, but remembering Xehanort he assumed his name, clothing style, and basically made himself into him. later on he assumed the name Ansem. that's my educated guess for ya.
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They're connected by name Riku= Earth and so does Terras name.
Also with recent news it's been said Terra is falling into darkness, just like Riku did.

And yes darkness does change appearence, but that doesn't mean it also changes memory, age, etc.

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when did they say Terra was connected to Riku?
It's implied by the names. Riku=land in japanese, Terra=latin for earth.

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anyways, they talked about how Terra was supposedly choosing darkness to gain more power, so yeah, that's the path that Riku went down. apparently if he does do that and becomes young Xehanort that's how they're connected, since Riku was connected to Xehanort in KH1 by choosing that same path.
That's what I meant, yes.

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the darkness could very well have tainted him, therefore changing his appearance. that's what happened to Riku, only he changed (in appearance) into a whole different person (Xehanort) but that's only because they were connected as one in the first game, otherwise the change probably wouldn't have been that drastic.
That's one possible explanation, which I was aware of, but I wanted to see what other people would bring up. It should be worth noting though that silver hair is a trait of Master Xehanort. He also has yellow eyes, which happen to be the color Terra's eyes turn into. Just thought I should point that out.

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i explained the hair color already, and as my own little explanation i think that MX is not the same as the Xehanort from KH1. i think it is Terra, and that he assumed the name Xehanort after his "transformation". in the secret ending video, it says "memories of Xehanort" at one point. maybe in his transformation, he lost some of his memories, such as who he was, but remembering Xehanort he assumed his name, clothing style, and basically made himself into him. later on he assumed the name Ansem. that's my educated guess for ya.
Another possibility, which I personally don't buy, but all the same don't ignore. It explains the psychologial similarities, but doesn't really explain the physical ones. And erm, it doesn't quite fit into the plot *as well* as other explanations.

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Old 08/04/08, 10:17 PM   #12
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I think MX has too many similarities to Xehanort to be left out of the equation.
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3. i explained the hair color already, and as my own little explanation i think that MX is not the same as the Xehanort from KH1. i think it is Terra, and that he assumed the name Xehanort after his "transformation". in the secret ending video, it says "memories of Xehanort" at one point. maybe in his transformation, he lost some of his memories, such as who he was, but remembering Xehanort he assumed his name, clothing style, and basically made himself into him. later on he assumed the name Ansem. that's my educated guess for ya.
A: I doubt Xehanort would have walked down the streets of Radiant Garden, came across a clothing store with MX's cloths in it and say "OMG! I Wants!"...

B: Terra's eyes changing yellow is most logically, in my opinion, him using Fatal Mode...

C: MX's connections to Xehanort far outweighs that of Terra's...

D: MX has the same Japanese VA as Xemnas...

In conclusion, MX is pretty much confirmed to be apart of Xehanort...
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I was recently thinking the same thing earlier, but i think that Terra eventually absorbs Master Xenahort's power and becomes the Xenahort who became Ansem the Wise's apprentice. Proof:

1. The physical similarities that Young Xenahort shares with Master Xenahort and Terra. Terra absorbed MX, which changed his hair to white, like MX. Then he skin tone became darker along with his eye color changing to Orange like MX.

2. Ansem's Other Report 1:
"At that time, he had lost his memories entirely, but afterwards he began to
exhibit a remarkable inquisitive mind. He absorbed my teachings incredibly
quickly, and amassed a deep knowledge.

He is somewhat undeveloped in maturity, but this problem is due to his youth."
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"But I wonder whether it is truly good that is in him.
Certainly, Xehanort possesses a rare talent...

It is far too excellent. Even surpassing that of a human."

It is known that Terra was gifted and had some sort of a power. In this report, Ansem talks about how extremely talented Xenahort is.

3. Riku's suit. In KH1, Riku was given a suit and KH1 keyblade. This suit resembles the one that of the Dark Soldier, the apprentice of MX. If Terra absorded MX to become Young Xenahort, that would explain why the suit that Riku wears is so similar. It was given to him by Young Xenahort. The keyblade part is explained because in Terra uses and keyblade that lacks a keychain. In KH1, Young Xenahort gives Riku a keyblade that also lacks a keychain.

4. Xemnas in KH2: FM+ refers to Aqua's armor as old friend.

5. As shown in the trailer translations for Birth By Sleep, it is explained that Terra has a fascination with the darkness. Also, MX says: "I'm tired of waiting for you, Terra"
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I think that you might be right XIII, I mean Terra reminded me of Riku from what was said on the home page and maybe that's why Evil Ansem tempted Riku cause he reminded him of himself. I know he doesn't remember who he is, but maybe (and this is just a theory) when Xenahort plunged himself into darkness he awakened the memories the resonated deep down inside his heart. I'm basing is from CoM (I'm kind of fuzzy on this one) at the end when Namine gives them a choice and she says that the memories obtained in Castle Oblivion will sink back into darkness. That's my theory about your theory XIII.
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