Logical Xion theory!

[AndyCloseEyes]

Wow. I haven't started a thread in like, ever. I believe my last one was defending Coded.

Anyway, I have compromised a theory.

Namine said that "Regardless of how I assemble the memories, they begin to flow out... If another memory is connected, it can't return to it's original source".

This leads me to believe that a very special memory "flowed out" of Sora's heart "connected" to the memories Namine was manipulating. That memory was of Kairi.

But Ven had a friend who was an equivalent of Kairi to Sora (hopefully put to better use though), and that was Aqua.

Obviously Ven has some connection to Roxas. His heart or soul or both went into Sora - something to that degree to make his Nobody appear like him. But now I ask - is it possible to still have Ven's memories stored in Roxas' heart if Ven's heart went into Sora? It's kind of like amnesia, where you can't access the memories, but they're still there.

Assuming the above paragraph is correct, let's remember that Roxas' heart is the other side of Sora's. If Sora's memory of Kairi flowed out of his heart, Ven's equivalent - Aqua - must have flowed out of the other side, too. They combined and took on a form - a mix of the humans Kairi and Aqua. This "double-memory" had Aqua's look and Kairi's voice, and could even wield Sora's memory keyblade.

Namine said that any of those flown out memories can't be returned, so the only way Xion could (and thus have Sora wake up) is for her to die. Once Xemnas finds out that she's nothing, he becomes angry that she's not a Nobody seeking a heart and kills her and erases all evidence of her presence in the Organization (and did a great job of it!).

Her name could be because she is a Nio-being (It's neo, but the Japanese pronounciation is nio). Her likes have never been seen before.

Basically, Xion is a plot device to make Roxas leave.

[Gabo]

Basically, Xion is a plot device to make Roxas leave.

We already knew that.

Assuming the above paragraph is correct, let's remember that Roxas' heart is the other side of Sora's

Roxas doesn't have hearts.

http://forums.khinsider.com/future-k...0817-14th.html
I kinda beat you to this a day ago, buddy.
For the most part anyways.
xD

I don't think she'll be killed.
I think she'd return on her own. We already know theres some doubt in her enduring the memory reparations.

[Box_ghost]

Originally Posted by AsYrsGoBy

Roxas doesn't have hearts.

It was implied in CoM.

Vexen: This place is a memory of the other side of your heart.

If it's from the OTHER side of his heart, how did the other side get said piece of heart?

I don't think she'll be killed.
I think she'd return on her own. We already know theres some doubt in her enduring the memory reparations.

Whatever happened to her, she's either dead, or has lost the ability to wield. [Which proves what I have been thinking about lately]

Point is, she's gone. I doubt she'll come back. If she does, she won't have a Keyblade.

[Snow Candy]

Nice theory I guess. Anyway, the last part was already stated, I know it was on this site but don't remember where. XD

[shadow15]

Assuming the above paragraph is correct, let's remember that Roxas' heart is the other side of Sora's.

Well Roxas doesn't have heart, in his body that is but as for Sora it could be just connected through the heart he has the whole time although his body and soul hadn't kept a heart but it kept a connection that gave Roxas the ability to use the keyblade it seems. I think that however Namine was created and the connection concerning Roxas and Ven and the memories of Kairi have something to do with Xion. Though we don't know where she's getting her name from, But then again we don't know where Namine came from either.

Her name can be Ino which i've heard a rumor that it means Sea, It could be Oni which means Demon but has been used as a regular name forgetting about it's meaning, Or it could be Nio like you said. Due to the fact that the connection he has to Ven had only got him a nobody that looked like Ven tells you something about their connection. So what connection would that hold to Aqua and Kairi? Well for one Ven's connection could be connected to someoneelse and that would go for Kairi as well when Kairi's heart entered Soras and made Namine it made something like Aqua/Kairi sort of nobody. But we don't really know the whereabouts of Aqua do we? Or it could be the way you said and Xemnas killed her somehow for some reason, I'm sure Xemnas would have known all along whether she was a nobody or not...

[Gabo]

It was implied in CoM.

Vexen: This place is a memory of the other side of your heart.

If it's from the OTHER side of his heart, how did the other side get said piece of heart?

No, it was not.
We know that both the Somebodies and Nobodies memories are retained in the heart.
Roxas does not have his own heart, he simply uses Sora's as storage for his memories.

[Box_ghost]

Originally Posted by AsYrsGoBy

No, it was not.

Yes, yes it is. By that quote I made.

We know that both the Somebodies and Nobodies memories are retained in the heart.

A nobody wouldn't retain memries in it's heart after it became a nobody.

Roxas does not have his own heart, he simply uses Sora's as storage for his memories.

I'm saying that Roxas used Sora's heart while Sora wasn't, which slowed down Sora' progress. I never thought for a second Roxas had his own heart.

[Gabo]

A nobody wouldn't retain memries in it's heart after it became a nobody.

We already learned it does.

A nobody wouldn't retain memries in it's heart after it became a nobody.

There is still a connection to the heart.

I'm saying that Roxas used Sora's heart while Sora wasn't, which slowed down Sora' progress. I never thought for a second Roxas had his own heart

Your last post seemed to imply that much.
Either way, I do not believe that Roxas 'used' Sora's heart. Why would he 'use' his heart? Not to mention how would he even be using it?

[SufferingAngel]

I hissed at the mention of Kairi. Disagree completely about that especially since Xion's voice really being Kairi's hadn't been confirmed yet for the game itself.
Didn't really see anything new here and we all knew the punchline :\
Oh, and you forgot she also appears to be a plot device to make more Riku angst, we mustn't forget that.

[Box_ghost]

Originally Posted by AsYrsGoBy

We already learned it does.

Those memories are from before. We have yet to learn whether memories can be stored in the heart after the nobody has been created and if it would remember when it became whole again.

There is still a connection to the heart.

Your last post seemed to imply that much.
Either way, I do not believe that Roxas 'used' Sora's heart. Why would he 'use' his heart? Not to mention how would he even be using it?

Like you said, there is still a connection to the heart.

[Gabo]

Those memories are from before. We have yet to learn whether memories can be stored in the heart after the nobody has been created and if it would remember when it became whole again.

Twilight Town being present in Sora's heart is proof enough that Nobodies memories are retained there as well.

Like you said, there is still a connection to the heart.

Sora was still active when Roxas was also active. Roxas would be making his own memories so to speak, and they'd reside in Sora's heart.

[SufferingAngel]

Originally Posted by AsYrsGoBy

Twilight Town being present in Sora's heart is proof enough that Nobodies memories are retained there as well.

Actually, seeing how we've seen nothing distinctive of Twilight Town, we can't really say they were made from Roxas's own Memories. Who's to say those Memories weren't from Axel from his time with Roxas? Sora certainly seemed convinced of the Memories he had from Namine being truer than the ones used to created TLTW... maybe this is part of why.

[Gabo]

Actually, seeing how we've seen nothing distinctive of Twilight Town, we can't really say they were made from Roxas's own Memories. Who's to say those Memories weren't from Axel from his time with Roxas? Sora certainly seemed convinced of the Memories he had from Namine being truer than the ones used to created TLTW... maybe this is part of why.

A. Vexen made them from Sora's own heart.
B. Sora felt a sense of nostalgia
C. Namine was opposed to messing around with Sora's memories around that point. Vexen giving him that world card was against the wishes of Marluxia, so Namine wouldn't be ordered to make Sora feel that way about them. Also, I do not feel as if Namine would eff around with his memories without orders and certainly not just randomly either. Do you get what I mean? I feel as if I worded it oddly

[DarkSoldier85]

I like it. Nice job! It makes more sense than it just being Aqua.

[SufferingAngel]

Originally Posted by DarkSoldier85

I like it. Nice job! It makes more sense than it just being Aqua.

I personally think 'it just being Aqua' makes more than enough sense xD