Everything We Know About Unbirths So Far

[Iridium]

Maybe, personally I don't like enemy resurrections but meh *shrugs*

[SuperLink]

Maybe they won't be resurrected. The complete lack of Nobodies in KHI makes it seems possible that Unbirths just became incredibly rare.

[Iridium]

Well that's a possibility, but with the fact that Nomura only wanted to introduce the nobodies in KH2 because the heartless were the main enemies in KH1. The nobodies had no reason to intervene in the storyline. But than again the unbirths could come back, that's little chance however.

[SuperLink]

I just think it would be a shame to introduce a possibly important story element and then leave it forever. When you say "Unbirths won't have a presence at all in KHIII" it just makes them seem like a waste of time.

[Iridium]

They aren't really a waste of time but if they are reintroduced they better have a damn good reason for it.

[SuperLink]

I'm more of the mindset "If there's any reason they're in KH at all there'd better be a damn good reason for it".

Why introduce a whole race of enemies if they're going to be completely useless to the whole series? Are they truly just to fill in the "generic enemy" space the Heartless take up? That and that alone? It just seems like a lack of creative insight.

[Iridium]

I see your point, for now, honestly I just like the idea of them being extinct after BBS.
Unless someone like Xehanort starts the whole unbirth process all over again.

Or for all we know combining the species of enemies to make a completely new enemy >:]
lawlz

[KeyMaker]

UNBIRTH THEORY

I decided to place it here instead of making a new topic. I'm sure everyone is simply getting tired of seeing a new topic all the tme.
Now this is going to be straight and to the point.

A person in the Kingdom Hearts world is made up of 3 parts. A body, A Heart, and A soul. Heartless = heart taken and/or corrupted by darkness. Thus leaving behind a shell which is the nobody, a nonexistant being that is left behind.
Unbirths may represent a soul corrupted and twisted. Perhaps the body broke down through some process and the heart was also lost leaving behind a physical corrupted soul. A person isn't whole until they have all three parts, thus they aren't truly born without a soul. Hence Un-Birth, by the soul being taken away they have been unborn.


*Note* If you look at the Unbirth symbol the heart is split into 3 parts. You can also interpret the X being created at the bottom as a twisting point.

[Iridium]

For a small theory that isn't too bad, nice job on placing this here instead of making a separate thread btw.

[SuperLink]

Nice theory, though that wouldn't explain their absense during KHI, CoM and II. (Would it?) Since I personally believe they're still around though, I think your theory could work.

It could also mean that Riku has an Unbirth, since his soul was corrupted. Although, if they really are connected to Heartless and Nobodies as if they are 3 parts of the same, wouldn't they have to become all 3 at the same time? As if the person shatters? I'm sure all will become clear.

This also makes it possible for Ven to be Sora's Unbirth, if something happened to Sora as a child to twist or corrupt his soul (you never know) an teenage/adult version of Sora was "unborned"

[Iridium]

Originally Posted by SuperLink

Nice theory, though that wouldn't explain their absense during KHI, CoM and II. (Would it?) Since I personally believe they're still around though, I think your theory could work.

We'll just have to wait and see really.

It could also mean that Riku has an Unbirth, since his soul was corrupted. Although, if they really are connected to Heartless and Nobodies as if they are 3 parts of the same, wouldn't they have to become all 3 at the same time? As if the person shatters? I'm sure all will become clear.

Well Riku's soul was never corrupted, same goes for the rest of him. However his body was possessed by Xehanorts heartless, still he wouldn't have an unbirth neither a nobody (since people ALWAYS think that.)

This also makes it possible for Ven to be Sora's Unbirth, if something happened to Sora as a child to twist or corrupt his soul (you never know) an teenage/adult version of Sora was "unborned"

Sora's soul...corrupted?...Yeah, I'll look into that, still that's highly unlikely and also considering his age at the time.

[SuperLink]

Yeah it could also have worked the other way around, which is a possible theory aswell. Ven's soul may have gotten corrupted to create Sora, but since we don't know the nature of Unbirths yet, we don't know if they can age or not, and Sora quite clearly ages.

[Iridium]

From what I've read, if you worded this right, Ven's soul was corrupted to make Sora?
And Sora existed at that time? So, that's a little odd don't you think, and if they are anything like the Org they could age.

Well if unbirths can take human form like them which I doubt since Ven is more likely human just like DS and MX.

[SuperLink]

Originally Posted by Yttrxium

From what I've read, if you worded this right, Ven's soul was corrupted to make Sora?
And Sora existed at that time? So, that's a little odd don't you think, and if they are anything like the Org they could age.

Well if unbirths can take human form like them which I doubt since Ven is more likely human just like DS and MX.

It's possible, if Unbirths work that way. I mean Ven's soul could have been corrupted some time before BbS, i.e., before Sora was born. Unbirths may well be able to age. Also I compeltely forgot about DS, I wonder if he's important. I'd lol if he was some really important key factor in what happened to TAV, or Sora and Riku. Or something.

[Smile]

Originally Posted by SuperLink

It's possible, if Unbirths work that way. I mean Ven's soul could have been corrupted some time before BbS, i.e., before Sora was born. Unbirths may well be able to age. Also I compeltely forgot about DS, I wonder if he's important. I'd lol if he was some really important key factor in what happened to TAV, or Sora and Riku. Or something.

You can start lolling because he probably is oO
As for Sora being an Unbirth, I doubt it. I think it's more likely whatever Ven lost was purified before it ended up inside Sora (if indeed it was currupted and not just taken away, ala Kairi's-Heart-In-Sora's-Body)