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Old 07/21/08, 02:16 AM   #31
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There are numerous theories about why they might have fused, but what I'd really like to know is how.
Thats not even anything people can really guess on either.
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Old 07/21/08, 02:17 AM   #32
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There are numerous theories about why they might have fused, but what I'd really like to know is how.
who knows. maybe they watched that episode of dragon ball z and said "hey that doesn't look to hard". But seriously. yeah If they fuse then the biggest question would be how. If i had to take a guess i think it would revolve around darkness in some way.
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Where are you getting this voice actor information? I thought the only confirmed voice was Roxas' actor doing Ven's voice.
Well it isn't "confirmed by S-E", but people have noticed that the VA for Terra and MX are the same as Xehanort and Xemnas respectfully based on the Leaked Trailer =/
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But Memories aren't something you can destroy. That's why he couldn't just get rid of them, but had to put them somewhere.
Riku won't be getting rid of the Memories - he'd be getting rid of their host - Sora. That's what Terra gave him the Keyblade for.
Ok, I didn't understand what you meant by getting "rid" of the memories.

So then why would he put them in Sora? Making Riku a fail-safe to kill Sora sounds a bit wrong, as bittermeat said before.
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Old 07/21/08, 02:20 AM   #35
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I can see RK right now sharpening his fangs XD; heel, boy =P

I know this is probably the most chipped, half-assed thing you'll get to see, but I still wanted to share.

As hinted (or stated) in FM+ by LS, [spoiler]Terra was the one who chose Riku as the Keyblade Master[/spoiler]
BBS trailers show us when he had the opportunity to do so, standing on the shore and watching a young Riku and Sora sparring.

Nomura said that the reason Roxas is able to wield the Keyblade while Sora's even around is related to [spoiler]Xehanort's Memories[/spoiler], and we can all assume an inevitable relation to Ven.

So here's my theory about why Terra chose Riku to be the next Wielder.

Xehanort is probably a weird fusion between Terra and MX. I think that was perhaps Terra's only way to seal MX.
Whether this is relevant or not, the fact remains that even fused and MX probably overpowered Terra by quite a bit - MX had to be weakened somehow.
That's where sealing his Memories come into play.
And Nomura already told us where those Memories are.

So what if Terra, while visiting the islands, found two boys with strong enough Hearts who could do just what he needed - one to serve as a place to seal Xehanort's Memories inside...
And another to be a 'fail-safe' should there be a need to... get rid of those Memories?

I'm not too sure how I see Ven's relation to Sora at this point. It could be it already existed and that's why Terra chose Sora specifically for that specific task, or it could be he had a high 'synchronization' with Ven - whom was used to seal MX's Memories, while Terra sacrificed himself to seal - everything else?
However, seeing as Terra would also lose his Memories and be fused with MX, he wouldn't be able to do anything about it should Sora either fall into the wrong hands - or be over taken by Xehanort's Memories.

That's why he needed a fail-safe - being Riku, whom he chosen as the next Wielder.

That could be why he went after Riku in KH1 but didn't pay Sora much attention (possibly retcon but still) - he knew on some level who'm he chose for the Keyblade.



Those're my 2 cents at 1:30 am.
Feel free to speculate or kill this with fire and brimstone XD

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Well it isn't "confirmed by S-E", but people have noticed that the VA for Terra and MX are the same as Xehanort and Xemnas respectfully based on the Leaked Trailer =/
That's pretty hard to say. The blogger at the Light in Chaos blog said that Terra's voice sounded like Setzer's xD, Japanese versions respectively. I'd hold out on assuming those things until some names are confirmed.
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Old 07/21/08, 02:24 AM   #37
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That's pretty hard to say. The blogger at the Light in Chaos blog said that Terra's voice sounded like Setzer's xD, Japanese versions respectively. I'd hold out on assuming those things until some names are confirmed.
xD.
I'll say they are rumored then.
But that still leaves... TERRA'S HAIR! XD.
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Old 07/21/08, 05:42 AM   #38
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pretty good, rehashed but good

The only fact remains.............What happens to DS??
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Old 07/21/08, 05:46 AM   #39
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Dun dun dunnnn.
Please Welcome KH3 Badguy = DS!
Or maybe HE is really a SHE and is really a XIVth Nobody?
Or maybe he was killed.
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its strange cause we also have no idea what happened to Aqua or Ven either. Although Xemnas has her armor.......bleh
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So then why would he put them in Sora? Making Riku a fail-safe to kill Sora sounds a bit wrong, as bittermeat said before.
I explained that before, and that would have to do with Sora's connection to Ven - be it one Terra himself created because Sora was a good 'match' to host the part of Ven locking up Xehanort's Memories, or be it because one already existed.

And Ven asking his 'friend' to 'erase' him also sounds a bit wrong, I'd say. Same grounds. Terra made sure that if ever the need rose, and he won't be there, that Sora'll have someone to do that 'favor' for him - a last show of kindness, in a way, to both Ven and Sora himself.
And whom better to entrust the task with than the boy who seems to be Sora's own best friend?

EDIT: Hum. Just thought a bit about fusing and Rikunort came to mind.
So we have "our" Xehanort, MX's Memories inside Sora, and LS. I think they just threw things out until they were able to somehow go along with it XD;;; like, one had something the other had 'thrown away' - being LS, for example - so they filled in the gaps, making a new entity.
Xehanort's Heartless was lacking a Body, and Riku was willing to push his own Heart away to gain more powers from the Darkness. Thus it worked, with Darkness holding it all together.

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Old 07/21/08, 08:42 AM   #42
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It was stated that the KHII FM+ Secret ending was a concept video, but it still can be used as a theory/speculation maker. OK, first, Riku COULD be the keyblade master at anytime since he has a keyblade, the Kingdom Key can't make him the master because it's just a different key, the mistake was THE KEYBLADE not the whole "keyblade master" issue.
which has me wondering; what the heck happened to the keyblades they picked up
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which has me wondering; what the heck happened to the keyblades they picked up
They weren't really there... That video was just to show the symbolic connection between VAT and those keyblade owners.
KH2 Secret Ending = Concept and Symbolism.
KH22:FM+ Secret Ending = Concept and near canonical.
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yup, as said time and time again, it was just Symbolism of connections to SRK
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yup, as said time and time again, it was just Symbolism of connections to SRK
..More like SRM...
Wait what? Nothing! *scampers off to work on his BBS thread*
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