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Old 07/21/08, 01:00 AM   #16
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And pray tell how would she seal the Darkness? I think it's the other way around. By sealing his Memories of it she'd be sealing Riku's access to it. Namine can't do anything else but mess with Memories.



Ah, Miles, I missed you.
Now go back and actually read my topic post before commenting since I didn't doubt Riku being the Master and I didn't mention the secret ending.
Also, the normal KH2 secret ending was concept. KHII FM+ was for real.
The only thing I readed was the RIKU WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE MASTER! sentence... Still, as I said, Riku was meant to have the KK not be the master since he can be the master at ANY time still... I was watching some cases I helped Wright with but... Are you THE SA? The douche that said he had a cool Sephiroth avatar and was a semi-flamer?
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Wright with but... Are you THE SA? The douche that said he had a cool Sephiroth avatar and was a semi-flamer?
Are you confused with Piro Riku...?
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The only thing I readed was the RIKU WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE MASTER! sentence... Still, as I said, Riku was meant to have the KK not be the master since he can be the master at ANY time still... I was watching some cases I helped Wright with but... Are you THE SA? The douche that said he had a cool Sephiroth avatar and was a semi-flamer?
No. And I never said Riku was supposed to be a Master. I raised a theory why he was chosen to be that.
Please stop spamming my thread now if you're not gonna read.
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Old 07/21/08, 01:03 AM   #19
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Oh, now I get it... My apologies... So your basiclly saying that Riku got the keyblade because of "memory of Xehanort"? But, of what Xehanort we are speaking? Xehanort or MX?
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Hey, Miles! You probably don't know who I am since I changed my name, so I'll give you a hint: "I'd greatly appreciate it if you stop posting like you're in a courtroom."
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Well, going by CoM, Memories aren't things that can be destroyed that easily. Also, seeing how they're his own Memories, aside from having a limited time once he pulled them out before he loses himself, I doubt he'd want to be the one to trash them. And Ven-Sora, for that matter.
He's throwing it all on Riku, getting rid of both the Memories - and Ven, inside of whom they reside.
Yes, but you're saying Riku could destroy the memories, so why not Terra? Not wanting to do it himself sounds like a poor excuse, I doubt he'd pin it on a kid simply for that reason. And limited time... well, again, if Riku could do it, so could he.

His "own" memories? Wait, Terra or MX? Maybe this is where I'm caught up.
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This really hasn't been discussed before...
Read the ENTIRE thing.
Well only part of it. I'm talking about Terra puting his heart in Sora, that is why I commented on a certain part.XD
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Hey, Miles! You probably don't know who I am since I changed my name, so I'll give you a hint: "I'd greatly appreciate it if you stop posting like you're in a courtroom."
Nope, I don't remeber you... "Memory of Xehanort"... Which of the both of Xehanorts?
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Yes, but you're saying Riku could destroy the memories, so why not Terra? Not wanting to do it himself sounds like a poor excuse, I doubt he'd pin it on a kid simply for that reason. And limited time... well, again, if Riku could do it, so could he.
But Memories aren't something you can destroy. That's why he couldn't just get rid of them, but had to put them somewhere.
Riku won't be getting rid of the Memories - he'd be getting rid of their host - Sora. That's what Terra gave him the Keyblade for.

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His "own" memories? Wait, Terra or MX? Maybe this is where I'm caught up.
Well, if they really are Terra's, come to think about it, it wouldn't matter much, since I suppose MX would take over even eventually in the fusion. It would also make more sense if Terra kept his own Memories that he let someone else get rid of Sora-Ven - because he remembered Ven so he couldn't really go along with it on his own.
He gave Riku the task of making sure everything would be alright, and if not - pick up on Ven's plea to be 'erased'.

EDIT: wait, I take it back. MX's Memories only, seeing how in the FM+ Xemnas seems to have quite a bond to Terra's Past via the Armor he visits. MX's persona won over though and that explains both "our" Xehanort and Xemnas.

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Well only part of it. I'm talking about Terra puting his heart in Sora, that is why I commented on a certain part.XD
...I didn't say that XD; go reread plz
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I can see RK right now sharpening his fangs XD; heel, boy =P

I know this is probably the most chipped, half-assed thing you'll get to see, but I still wanted to share.

As hinted (or stated) in FM+ by LS, [spoiler]Terra was the one who chose Riku as the Keyblade Master[/spoiler]
BBS trailers show us when he had the opportunity to do so, standing on the shore and watching a young Riku and Sora sparring.

Nomura said that the reason Roxas is able to wield the Keyblade while Sora's even around is related to [spoiler]Xehanort's Memories[/spoiler], and we can all assume an inevitable relation to Ven.

So here's my theory about why Terra chose Riku to be the next Wielder.

Xehanort is probably a weird fusion between Terra and MX. I think that was perhaps Terra's only way to seal MX.
Whether this is relevant or not, the fact remains that even fused and MX probably overpowered Terra by quite a bit - MX had to be weakened somehow.
That's where sealing his Memories come into play.
And Nomura already told us where those Memories are.

So what if Terra, while visiting the islands, found two boys with strong enough Hearts who could do just what he needed - one to serve as a place to seal Xehanort's Memories inside...
And another to be a 'fail-safe' should there be a need to... get rid of those Memories?

I'm not too sure how I see Ven's relation to Sora at this point. It could be it already existed and that's why Terra chose Sora specifically for that specific task, or it could be he had a high 'synchronization' with Ven - whom was used to seal MX's Memories, while Terra sacrificed himself to seal - everything else?
However, seeing as Terra would also lose his Memories and be fused with MX, he wouldn't be able to do anything about it should Sora either fall into the wrong hands - or be over taken by Xehanort's Memories.

That's why he needed a fail-safe - being Riku, whom he chosen as the next Wielder.

That could be why he went after Riku in KH1 but didn't pay Sora much attention (possibly retcon but still) - he knew on some level who'm he chose for the Keyblade.



Those're my 2 cents at 1:30 am.
Feel free to speculate or kill this with fire and brimstone XD

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fusion with terra and mx?
dude its not dbz
im not even gonna try to put logic in your theory
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fusion with terra and mx?
dude its not dbz
im not even gonna try to put logic in your theory
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Still, you can't deny the fact that there are a lot of similarities between Terra and Xehanort.
I truly hope that it's not just Nomura re-using his designs.
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fusion with terra and mx?
dude its not dbz
im not even gonna try to put logic in your theory
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...There are A LOT of reasons to be believe that fusion between Terra and MX is the case.
Terra's hairstyle is the same as Xehanort's.
Terra's Voice Actor is Xehanort's Voice Actor.
MX's clothes are the same as XH's.
MX's name.
MX's skintone.
MX's Voice Actor is Xemnas' Voice Actor.

Like i said, a fusion is most likely the case in some shape or form.
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why would terra and mx fuse together?
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why would terra and mx fuse together?
There are numerous theories about why they might have fused, but what I'd really like to know is how.
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...There are A LOT of reasons to be believe that fusion between Terra and MX is the case.
Terra's hairstyle is the same as Xehanort's.
Terra's Voice Actor is Xehanort's Voice Actor.
MX's clothes are the same as XH's.
MX's name.
MX's skintone.
MX's Voice Actor is Xemnas' Voice Actor.

Like i said, a fusion is most likely the case in some shape or form.
Where are you getting this voice actor information? I thought the only confirmed voice was Roxas' actor doing Ven's voice.
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