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Old 07/13/08, 09:34 PM   #61
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This does make a lot of sense, as 358 is the only game one could explain such things.

Unless they made a totally new game for Riku, which i wouldn't necessarily doubt.
Been discussing the idea.
Personally, I think that if they were to make a new game for Riku, they would have announced and would be developing it, at the same time as the other three titles. Why wait to make a game that's only to fill in plot stories? Especially when the other stories are working on being told now? =/
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Old 07/13/08, 09:42 PM   #62
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Been discussing the idea.
Personally, I think that if they were to make a new game for Riku, they would have announced and would be developing it, at the same time as the other three titles. Why wait to make a game that's only to fill in plot stories? Especially when the other stories are working on being told now? =/
^That's a good point.
It wouldn't make sense to waste time and resources.

I like this theory.
And I'm not just saying that because I would love to play as Riku.
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Old 07/13/08, 10:07 PM   #63
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Been discussing the idea.
Personally, I think that if they were to make a new game for Riku, they would have announced and would be developing it, at the same time as the other three titles. Why wait to make a game that's only to fill in plot stories? Especially when the other stories are working on being told now? =/
Because the fan base would go googoo over it. It would be another game that SE can make the public buy.
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Because the fan base would go googoo over it. It would be another game that SE can make the public buy.
Wouldn't that have the same affect if they were to announce it with the other three?
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Way to go RK! I think you figured it out! Oh and if proven wrong sorry. I only read first post that RK use to start. I bellive this is possible. Very posible. Way to go!!!
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Old 07/13/08, 10:44 PM   #66
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uhmmmm... you have a good head on your shoulders, i agree with what you're saying

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Old 07/13/08, 10:48 PM   #67
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uhmmmm... you have a good head on your shoulders, i agree with what you're saying

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But I digress.

People want to play as Riku or not?
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There's definitely not enough story there for Riku to get his own game on a console. =/
I could give plenty of sample of character who had not enough for a game, and still they got one.

FFVII DoC => They created a new part of the original organization we never heard before
FFVII CC => They created new characters and a plot we had no idea of in the original game.

What I mean by that is, if they really want to do it, they'll do it. Riku is one of the most popular, and let's be honest : what is the best from a marketing point of view, Riku having a sub story mode in 358/2 Days, or "Kingdom Hearts : Riku's path to Redemption" released on Wii 6 months before KH3 be on PS3, for sample, with Wii graphics showing Riku kicking Organization's ass, the artworks showing a badass Riku, etc? Like you said yourself, it's for the fans, and Riku is by far one of the most popular.
What I mean is just that for SE, it's not commercial to release his story in 358/2 Days.

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Right.
And we have little information on Aqua too...
Seems like Nomura likes to keep things secret, no?
Aqua is still different. We saw her in the Secret Ending, she is on the official KH BBS artwork and always cited as one of the main characters of the game.
But Riku has not been mentioned once for 358/2 Days except maybe one word one time... Not saying your idea is impossible, but comparing to Aqua is not helping this point.
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What I mean by that is, if they really want to do it, they'll do it. Riku is one of the most popular, and let's be honest : what is the best from a marketing point of view, Riku having a sub story mode in 358/2 Days, or "Kingdom Hearts : Riku's path to Redemption" released on Wii 6 months before KH3 be on PS3, for sample, with Wii graphics showing Riku kicking Organization's ass, the artworks showing a badass Riku, etc? Like you said yourself, it's for the fans, and Riku is by far one of the most popular.
What I mean is just that for SE, it's not commercial to release his story in 358/2 Days.
Well, I personally hope they'd refrain from it :\ Riku was never a badass. He was a prissy Drama Queen in KH1 with a figure better than Kairi and Sora (gods the thighs) combined;
In KH2 he moved from anti-social emo to a weeping ball of cotton-candy fluff.
Closest he was was in CoM but a) he matured into the weeping ball of cotton-candy fluff, and b) he was still more than his share of emo there.
The only time in which he can do something like this is if Sora is in trouble and then it's time for Riku-Smash since we won't like him when he's angry. That would involve Sora though and then lo and behold we've got KH3 rather than KH:Rikulicious.

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Aqua is still different. We saw her in the Secret Ending, she is on the official KH BBS artwork and always cited as one of the main characters of the game.
But Riku has not been mentioned once for 358/2 Days except maybe one word one time... Not saying your idea is impossible, but comparing to Aqua is not helping this point.
Hm... I donno. It's weird but I actually see the Riku scenario as more logical than Aqua being in BBS right now (especially in light of the high chance she's XIV). This isn't the same situation; of course Nomura would say nothing about a possible Riku-scenario in Days because no one really asked him about it.
Therefore - no contradiction.
It's not like in BBS where he does his very hardest not to say Aqua's name even though we know she exists, is part of the main BBS threesome, and has a Keyblade. Now here, him keeping silent, can be received as denying her being the third playable character, too (opened my own conspiracy-thread in the matter).
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Well, I personally hope they'd refrain from it :\ Riku was never a badass. He was a prissy Drama Queen in KH1 with a figure better than Kairi and Sora (gods the thighs) combined;
In KH2 he moved from anti-social emo to a weeping ball of cotton-candy fluff.
Closest he was was in CoM but a) he matured into the weeping ball of cotton-candy fluff, and b) he was still more than his share of emo there.
The only time in which he can do something like this is if Sora is in trouble and then it's time for Riku-Smash since we won't like him when he's angry. That would involve Sora though and then lo and behold we've got KH3 rather than KH:Rikulicious.
Maybe, but what SE looks is what most people think. Myself, I'm also not a big fan of Riku, but he's still is one of my fav. Now, if they listened me, they'd do an anime on Xehanort's year as Ansem's apprentice. Things is that SE will aim to do a game the most people will like, and so we'll never see the Xehanort anime I'd like they do.
Honestly, it's the main reason as to why Roxas gets his own game, sure they can do a scenario, but if Roxas had been hated by players, they'd never have done this game.
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Hm... I donno. It's weird but I actually see the Riku scenario as more logical than Aqua being in BBS right now (especially in light of the high chance she's XIV). This isn't the same situation; of course Nomura would say nothing about a possible Riku-scenario in Days because no one really asked him about it.
Therefore - no contradiction.
It's not like in BBS where he does his very hardest not to say Aqua's name even though we know she exists, is part of the main BBS threesome, and has a Keyblade. Now here, him keeping silent, can be received as denying her being the third playable character, too (opened my own conspiracy-thread in the matter).
Things is that, for BBS, we know there's three playable character and that at the end, the three scenario should reunite or something like that. Looking at the secret ending, it looks like the three knight reunited or something like that... For me it is kind of sure that Aqua is the third, but I understand that it is possible she not be.
For 358, it's not that Nomura said few on Riku, he said nothing. While it's possible he be playable, we lack of evidence. Of course, RK theory shows that it's possible. But for what I stated before, I think SE merely plan on releasing his story in another game or part by part in various game, like I said we never played as Genesis and yet we know his life better than those of some playable character.
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The only time i imagine Riku being in 358/2 Days is when Roxas fights him(maybe a boss ) and some assorted cutscenes when Roxas is in data TT....
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If there is a Reverse/Rebirth mode in 358/2 Days, it could be for Axel instead. Just a thought, though it's not as convincing as RK's idea.
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If there is a Reverse/Rebirth mode in 358/2 Days, it could be for Axel instead. Just a thought, though it's not as convincing as RK's idea.
LolO Lol

I doubt that, Axel would be shown for a lot of scenes in 358/2 Days.
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That's why I said it's not very convincing.
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Old 07/14/08, 03:09 AM   #75
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This is perhaps the most solid proof you'll ever need to convince us. It all fits perfectly with the logic and Nomura's statements.
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