KH2 Factual Hints?

[gotegenks]

Originally Posted by SunsetSeeker

another thing to those of u who didn't notice, the Nobody symbol also greatly resembles a heart(or the Heartless symbol, u decide) when it's turned upside-down.

err, not really, just the lumps on the bottom i guess

[kiante]

I don't care to read the whole thread, but there are a few things.

Squall's stuff is from FF8. He had a scar from fighting Seifer. The necklace was from his childhood (his father I think). The heartless symbol is of course new. He probably knows so much about the Keyblade because he searched for it to find a way to kil the heartless. Of course, that's just speculation.

Second, Seifer's friend, Fuujin I think, is from FF8 as well. She looks like that because that's what the character looked like.

Third, I'm pretty sure there's a significant differnece between the effects when Roxas summons his blade and Terra summons his.

[EyeOfDiscovery]

Anyway thank you to those who decided to point out things nicely. I will be playing it litterally in a minute after I check my other threads, and I will be listing everything else I find - On another note I discovered yesterday I saved over my save file and I'm not a happy bunny. I was right at the end and just completing the last bit of my journal -.-

[Shadow Denizen]

Originally Posted by SunsetSeeker

everyone (including u, EyeOfDiscovery) seems 2 b overlooking the fact that Roxas's arrow-tipped X necklace is the top of the Nobody symbol. seriously, i can't believe i had 2 spell that out 2 u guys. another thing to those of u who didn't notice, the Nobody symbol also greatly resembles a heart(or the Heartless symbol, u decide) when it's turned upside-down.

You have horrible spelling.

As for the symbol thing, I think it's irrelevant. A Heartless is a Heartless and a Nobody is a Nobody.

[Snow Candy]

I wish I really knew and cool observations by the way. I guess I need to be more observations...though I wonder if it can and or cannot relate to BBS. Hmm....*thinks* maybe. Maybe not. That's all I have to say although I have to agree with Leonard's post!

[EyeOfDiscovery]

I have edited my first post adding new submissions

[EyeOfDiscovery]

Oopps.. Sorry it posted twice.. Just gonna edit it so it says something..

SORA FTW

[Artistry of Schedius]

some of them might be just coincidences.
6. Rox's zipper design is the top part of the Org XIII logo.
for num. 9 i did not notice that.i'll look at it on sat.
10. hmmm...i did notice that but i just cant explain it.
14. DiZ has yellow eyes?!

[EyeOfDiscovery]

I have updatesd the first post again with more editions!

[yugi300]

Nice finds I guess but be sure to update this if you find more I restarted too and that drawing interested me but I couldn't tell what he drew I paused it but it was too light bright too see so yea also a Namine pic interested me in the mansion but it was probablly just a heartless. Also it's funny how some people totally forgot about Zexion's importance if any to the future of KH or at least to find out about his weapon/his importance if any to the future of KH and omg I found atidbit when Xemnas typed the code to go underground I could swear I saw him type..."BROTHER".

[Organization_42]

Originally Posted by EyeOfDiscovery

1. In Roxas' room he has a light/ornament that has the star which is on top of the skyscraper in TWTNW.

Interesting. Since Roxas doesn't really have a home or family in Twilight Town, I wonder if DiZ or Namine designed his room to look a certain way, and Namine added some elements of the World That Never Was based on what she saw from his memories and his personal tastes.

Originally Posted by EyeOfDiscovery

8. In Twilight Town - The 'Haunted Mansion' - Disney Trivia

Cool coincidence, I can't believe I didn't notice that! Love the Haunted Mansion!

Originally Posted by EyeOfDiscovery

12. Axel says to Roxas in twilight town - "Roxas, Number 13. The Keyblades Chosen One" What happened to Riku being 'the chosen one'?

DiZ calls him that too, and it's one of the captions to one of the earlier scans of 358/2 Days. The Keyblade did choose Sora/Roxas, Sora just wasn't its first choice.

Originally Posted by EyeOfDiscovery

13. When Kairi sends the bottle in a message, Sora and Riku get it when they are in the darkness place after defeating Ansem for the last time (Or Xehanort.. Whichever one - With light sabers) - Could Mickey have sent the bottle in a message from the same place Sora and Riku got Kairi's message?

They fought Xemnas, Xehanort's Nobody. And I doubt Mickey took the journey to the World That Never Was just to send his letter to Sora, Riku, and Kairi. If he was able to do that, why wouldn't he have just traveled to Destiny Islands to see them in person? I'm sure there's a beach at Disney Castle somewhere.

Originally Posted by EyeOfDiscovery

16. Diz says he wants 'revenge' over Sora/Roxas - What has Sora/Roxas done to him?

Not them; Organization XIII. The first six members were his original apprentices who betrayed him and sealed him in the Realm of Darkness because he tried to stop them from carrying out experiments on the heart. If he seems harsh while speaking to Roxas, it's because his hatred for the original six has extended to Nobodies in general, especially members of the Organization that was founded by Xemnas.

Originally Posted by EyeOfDiscovery

17. Diz says 'Roxas is'nt the only Nobody who wasn't meant to exsist' while looking sad. He obviously means Naminé but could he also be a Nobody? Bearing the question: Who is he?

Um...he's Ansem the Wise...and he's not a Nobody. He never lost his heart; Xehanort and the other apprentices did.

Originally Posted by EyeOfDiscovery

18. What is Riku's connection to Org. XIII? He is shown fighting Roxas in TWTNW while wearing Org. XIII robes - Is he a member?

No, he wears those robes so that the Organization can't detect him and to protect him from the darkness. He fought Roxas because he was trying to bring him back to DiZ. If they reunited Roxas with Sora, Sora would have an easier time waking up with his memory restored.

Originally Posted by EyeOfDiscovery

19. On the 6th day, roxas starts to shift into a form of Sora - Is this a stage of erasing Roxas or awaking Sora?

Awaking Sora. Roxas was never truly gone, as we saw at the end of the game and during scenes in the World That Never Was. He just became a part of Sora.

In the World That Never Was, we saw Namine blurring slightly as she escaped with Kairi, so the whole shifting thing is probably what happens when a Nobody gets close to its heart.

Originally Posted by EyeOfDiscovery

20. Axel mentions 'Getting turned into a Dusk' - Somebody has the power to turn Nobodies in human form into Dusks?

Now that is interesting. At first I thought it was more a figure of speech than anything else, his way of saying that he would be in serious trouble if he didn't obey orders. But he says the same thing when he actually gets the orders in that new scene from Final Mix. So I wonder if that really was a possibility, and Xemnas actually has the power to do that. If he can, we'll probably learn more in 358/2 Days.

Originally Posted by EyeOfDiscovery

21. When you leave Org. XIII is your memory wiped? Roxas has no previous knowledge of his time at the Org.

No...that was all DiZ and Namine. Remember, when Riku brought Roxas back and DiZ said, "He'll need another personality to throw off his pursuers?" That's what he was talking about. Otherwise Roxas would have kept trying to escape.

Also, Axel left the Organization, and his memory was just fine.

Originally Posted by EyeOfDiscovery

22. In the mansion there is head statues of Pegasus from Hercules - Disney Trivia

Really? I'll have to check that out.

Originally Posted by EyeOfDiscovery

24. Axel says to Roxas 'Lets meet again in the next life' and then comments Roxas 'Just because you have a next life'

I wondered what that meant for a long time, but now I think he was refering to when they found their hearts and became whole again. And then he was indicating that just because Roxas could regain his heart through Sora, didn't mean there was any hope for Axel.

Originally Posted by EyeOfDiscovery

25. Six pods under in the mansion in the corridor, Donald and Goofy are in two leaving four more - Kairi, Namine, Roxas and Riku? Sora is in a chmber in the next room.

They're probably just extras. Why would Kairi, Namine, Roxas, or Riku need a pod? They were just being used for Sora, Donald, and Goofy so that they would regain their memories.

Originally Posted by EyeOfDiscovery

29. Later in the game, You obtain a keyblade from fighting Axel, The bond of flame. This suggests each member of the Org. XIII was possibly a keyblade wielder and on defeating them a keyblade is obtained. (I remember getting the keyblade from my last save game)

It's not a Keyblade, it's a Keychain, and you get lots of them after you complete worlds or major events. It doesn't make Axel a Keyblade wielder. If they were all Keyblade wielders, they wouldn't have needed Roxas as badly, and they probably would have reached their goal of obtaining enough hearts more quickly.

Originally Posted by EyeOfDiscovery

30. Mickey has the same money pouch that was taken from Roxas and gives it to Sora, Which also has the blue crystal in it. How did he get it?

From Riku. It was supposed to be a clue for Sora and the gang that there were two Twilight Towns.

Originally Posted by EyeOfDiscovery

31. Ansem's youngest apprentices name is 'Ienzo'.

Who went on to become Zexion, from Chain of Memories.

Some of these are interesting, some are probably coincidences, and some do have answers to them.

[alexchewy]

for leon fuujin and raijin they are all from ff8 and leon should only have 1 slash on his face instead of and X

[.:Raz:.]

Some of the things you said were interesting... but most things were known facts.

[XXIII-Junior]

omg I found atidbit when Xemnas typed the code to go underground I could swear I saw him type..."BROTHER"

He actually typed in the word "ANOTHER"

[Ragnarok]

Interesting Facts. This thread was Reived, right? Heres another fact. The Gullwings are tiny except hey are actually normal sized in FF-X2. Im just suprised nobody has pointed that out yet =/