hearts reincarnating?

rasensora · 06/20/08, 02:35 AM

i think that when a person dies or loses their heart and their heart goes to kingdom hearts (if it does work that way) the heart reincarnates itself into a new person. i think this happened with sora/terra and roxas/ven. i belive that terra lost his heart or a part of it and it went to kingdom hearts and ended up in sora and i think the same happened to ven, he lost it or a part of it and it ended up in sora and when sora became a heartless and when roxas was born, he looked like ven because he had ven's heart(or part of it). what do you guys think? any therories or thoughts would be appreciated.

**PostMentalFerocity** · 06/20/08, 02:40 AM

The heart would die too. It wouldn't go to Kingdom Hearts.

Even still, reincarnation seems highly unlikely.

.Oji · 06/20/08, 02:41 AM

One fatal flaw, there: Sora existed when Terra and Ven was around, so I guess that nulls your theory.

I'd probably believe this more if you said "transmigrating" instead of reincarnating.

PyroRiku · 06/20/08, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by rasensora

i think that when a person dies or loses their heart and their heart goes to kingdom hearts (if it does work that way) the heart reincarnates itself into a new person. i think this happened with sora/terra and roxas/ven. i belive that terra lost his heart or a part of it and it went to kingdom hearts and ended up in sora and i think the same happened to ven, he lost it or a part of it and it ended up in sora and when sora became a heartless and when roxas was born, he looked like ven because he had ven's heart(or part of it). what do you guys think? any therories or thoughts would be appreciated.

I gotta say No to this one because Sora, Riku, and Kairi are playing on Destiny Island as children when Ven asked our mystery shadow to erase him. But thats just me. Good try though.

.Oji beat me to it, but same point.

rasensora · 06/20/08, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by .Oji

One fatal flaw, there: Sora existed when Terra and Ven was around, so I guess that nulls your theory.

I'd probably believe this more if you said "transmigrating" instead of reincarnating.

yeah, transmigrating was what i was trying to go for but i ended up saying reincarnating, thanks for your thoughts.

**PostMentalFerocity** · 06/20/08, 03:07 AM

Incarnation...It's so simple, why didn't I see it before?

I'm readying a theory as to why Roxas looks like Ven. Must go think....

If this theory goes well, I'll fuse my three theories and make a perfect theory that WON'T be disproven.

[psychopathic rant: I'll be unstoppable. MWAHAHAHAHAA. All will know the PMF! ]

OmniChaos · 06/20/08, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by PostMentalFerocity

The heart would die too. It wouldn't go to Kingdom Hearts.

Even still, reincarnation seems highly unlikely.

In real life, yeah... But in KH, the only thing we have on this is that Xehanort's heartless said it would go to KH...

.Oji · 06/20/08, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by rasensora

yeah, transmigrating was what i was trying to go for but i ended up saying reincarnating, thanks for your thoughts.

No prob. :3

However, just to let you know that even though you meant transmigrating, the scene where Sora released his heart after stabbing himself with the Heart Unlocker already proved that he had two hearts within him... not three.

Now, unless there was some sort of merger between hearts or even soul merger (since transmigrating refers to souls), then perhaps. Otherwise, any theory about Ven or Terra's heart being in Sora is null.

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Originally Posted by PostMentalFerocity

Incarnation...It's so simple, why didn't I see it before?

I'm readying a theory as to why Roxas looks like Ven. Must go think....

If this theory goes well, I'll fuse my three theories and make a perfect theory that WON'T be disproven.

[psychopathic rant: I'll be unstoppable. MWAHAHAHAHAA. All will know the PMF! ]

Haha, I'll be looking forward to it. ^_^

**PostMentalFerocity** · 06/20/08, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by OmniChaos

In real life, yeah... But in KH, the only thing we have on this is that Xehanort's heartless said it would go to KH...

He wasn't talking about death and you know it. The heart is connected to the body and soul. Think of it as a thread of life.

The heart is the proof of life. Once it no longer serves its purpose it dies.

OmniChaos · 06/20/08, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by PostMentalFerocity

He wasn't talking about death and you know it. The heart is connected to the body and soul. Think of it as a thread of life.

The heart is the proof of life. Once it no longer serves its purpose it dies.

Then explain why Ansem specificlly said "every heart returns to darkness whence it came"...?

**PostMentalFerocity** · 06/20/08, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by OmniChaos

Then explain why Ansem specificlly said "every heart returns to darkness whence it came"...?

Death=/=Oblivion. Hearts fade to oblivion.

Xarhas · 06/20/08, 03:39 AM

Though, I myself think that reincarnation has been suggested in KH. Seeing that when you die, you turn into a Heartless, and, if with a strong will, also a Nobody,thus, reincarnating yourself into two others. Nomura-San said himself that if a person with a strong will turns into a Heartless and a Nobody, then the Heartless is killed first, then Nobody, you become a "Somebody" once again, reincarnating yourself.
This is just based on what Nomura-San said in an interview, and we all know in KH, Nomura's ideas are law.
I'm not sure where the interview is, somewhere on on of the main page's past entries.
Since Sora killed Xehanort's Heartless first, then Xemnas, then I'm sure Xehanort will probably come back.
I myself support the Master Xehanort+Terra=Xehanort Apprentice, but that's just me. Thus, I think since Xehanort supposedly might come back, but, come back as Master Xehanort and Terra in seperated form. One thing that backs me up is that you could only fight Terra(LS) AFTER you defeated Xemnas. Another thing is that I think Xehanort Apprentice's Heartless is the Master Xehanort part of Xehanort Apprentice, and Xemnas is the Terra part of Xehanort. That is why Xemnas was so interested in Roxas, because, somehow, he remembered Ven. Maybe, and this is pretty much a guess, MX (Master Xehanort) posssesed Terra when Terra turned to darkness (yellow eyes), so, I think that MX possessed Terra. (Like Riku-"Ansem")
Since MX was the more powerful Keyblade wielder, he was able to control Xehanort Apprentice(God, how many Xehanort's ARE there?), thus, leading Xehanort apprentice to continue experiments of the heart. MX probably did this so he could be seperated from Terra, and to not have to use his power to possess to gain control. Now, since the MX part was running after KH, thus, Xemnas was able to see Terra's memories,since MX's possession was gone, so he remembered Ven, creating his interest in Roxas. Also, more support: Xemnas called Aqua's Armor a "FRIEND".
This whole irrevelant theory is just another MX+TERRA=XEHANORT APPRENTICE theory, since I know a handful of people disagee with the MX+TERRA thing. I have been bored to death because of lack of info, so my mind makes dozens of theories, even if they have HUGE holes in them.

P.S:Uh-oh, I forgot PMF was on here!!! (Jaw's music in the backround)

rasensora · 06/20/08, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by .Oji

No prob. :3

However, just to let you know that even though you meant transmigrating, the scene where Sora released his heart after stabbing himself with the Heart Unlocker already proved that he had two hearts within him... not three.

Now, unless there was some sort of merger between hearts or even soul merger (since transmigrating refers to souls), then perhaps. Otherwise, any theory about Ven or Terra's heart being in Sora is null.

Haha, I'll be looking forward to it. ^_^

i cant wait either. anymore thoughts on my theory?

Lexeon · 06/20/08, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by rasensora

i think that when a person dies or loses their heart and their heart goes to kingdom hearts (if it does work that way) the heart reincarnates itself into a new person. i think this happened with sora/terra and roxas/ven. i belive that terra lost his heart or a part of it and it went to kingdom hearts and ended up in sora and i think the same happened to ven, he lost it or a part of it and it ended up in sora and when sora became a heartless and when roxas was born, he looked like ven because he had ven's heart(or part of it). what do you guys think? any therories or thoughts would be appreciated.

How can Terra be reincarnated in Sora, if Sora fought him KH2 FM?

rasensora · 06/20/08, 04:06 PM

maybe the portal you go through to fight him is a portal to the past.

06/20/08, 02:35 AM	#1
rasensora Keyblade Novice Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: fighting heartless/nobodies with sora Age: 18 Posts: 57 Rep Power: 0	hearts reincarnating? i think that when a person dies or loses their heart and their heart goes to kingdom hearts (if it does work that way) the heart reincarnates itself into a new person. i think this happened with sora/terra and roxas/ven. i belive that terra lost his heart or a part of it and it went to kingdom hearts and ended up in sora and i think the same happened to ven, he lost it or a part of it and it ended up in sora and when sora became a heartless and when roxas was born, he looked like ven because he had ven's heart(or part of it). what do you guys think? any therories or thoughts would be appreciated.

06/20/08, 02:40 AM	#2
PostMentalFerocity Kingdom Hearts is wrong! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kingdom Hearts is wrong! Age: 20 Posts: 5,352 Rep Power: 10	Re: hearts reincarnating? The heart would die too. It wouldn't go to Kingdom Hearts. Even still, reincarnation seems highly unlikely.

06/20/08, 02:41 AM	#3
.Oji Twilight Knight Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 王子駅 Age: 20 Posts: 812 Rep Power: 2	Re: hearts reincarnating? One fatal flaw, there: Sora existed when Terra and Ven was around, so I guess that nulls your theory. I'd probably believe this more if you said "transmigrating" instead of reincarnating.

06/20/08, 03:07 AM	#6
PostMentalFerocity Kingdom Hearts is wrong! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kingdom Hearts is wrong! Age: 20 Posts: 5,352 Rep Power: 10	Re: hearts reincarnating? Incarnation...It's so simple, why didn't I see it before? I'm readying a theory as to why Roxas looks like Ven. Must go think.... If this theory goes well, I'll fuse my three theories and make a perfect theory that WON'T be disproven. [psychopathic rant: I'll be unstoppable. MWAHAHAHAHAA. All will know the PMF! ]

06/20/08, 03:39 AM	#12
Xarhas Warrior of Darkness Join Date: May 2007 Location: Paradise Posts: 169 Rep Power: 2	Re: hearts reincarnating? Though, I myself think that reincarnation has been suggested in KH. Seeing that when you die, you turn into a Heartless, and, if with a strong will, also a Nobody,thus, reincarnating yourself into two others. Nomura-San said himself that if a person with a strong will turns into a Heartless and a Nobody, then the Heartless is killed first, then Nobody, you become a "Somebody" once again, reincarnating yourself. This is just based on what Nomura-San said in an interview, and we all know in KH, Nomura's ideas are law. I'm not sure where the interview is, somewhere on on of the main page's past entries. Since Sora killed Xehanort's Heartless first, then Xemnas, then I'm sure Xehanort will probably come back. I myself support the Master Xehanort+Terra=Xehanort Apprentice, but that's just me. Thus, I think since Xehanort supposedly might come back, but, come back as Master Xehanort and Terra in seperated form. One thing that backs me up is that you could only fight Terra(LS) AFTER you defeated Xemnas. Another thing is that I think Xehanort Apprentice's Heartless is the Master Xehanort part of Xehanort Apprentice, and Xemnas is the Terra part of Xehanort. That is why Xemnas was so interested in Roxas, because, somehow, he remembered Ven. Maybe, and this is pretty much a guess, MX (Master Xehanort) posssesed Terra when Terra turned to darkness (yellow eyes), so, I think that MX possessed Terra. (Like Riku-"Ansem") Since MX was the more powerful Keyblade wielder, he was able to control Xehanort Apprentice(God, how many Xehanort's ARE there?), thus, leading Xehanort apprentice to continue experiments of the heart. MX probably did this so he could be seperated from Terra, and to not have to use his power to possess to gain control. Now, since the MX part was running after KH, thus, Xemnas was able to see Terra's memories,since MX's possession was gone, so he remembered Ven, creating his interest in Roxas. Also, more support: Xemnas called Aqua's Armor a "FRIEND". This whole irrevelant theory is just another MX+TERRA=XEHANORT APPRENTICE theory, since I know a handful of people disagee with the MX+TERRA thing. I have been bored to death because of lack of info, so my mind makes dozens of theories, even if they have HUGE holes in them. P.S:Uh-oh, I forgot PMF was on here!!! (Jaw's music in the backround)

06/20/08, 04:06 PM	#15
rasensora Keyblade Novice Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: fighting heartless/nobodies with sora Age: 18 Posts: 57 Rep Power: 0	Re: hearts reincarnating? maybe the portal you go through to fight him is a portal to the past.

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