My theory on why Ven looks like Roxas

[KCDjedi]

"When a person loses their heart, a Heartless with no sense of self is born, and
the leftover body and soul are used as an intermediary to give birth to a
Nobody."

Hmmm. According to Meriam-Webster (just to give it backup, since I already knew what those words meant, thank-you-very-much.)

"Intermediary
2 : acting as a mediator "

And

"Mediate

1: occupying a middle position
2 a: acting through an intervening agency
2 b: exhibiting indirect causation, connection, or relation"

Something seems not quite right about that Report if the Nobody is supposed to be the actual Body and Soul.

Just sayin', something seems a bit odd with that choice of words.

[EyeOfDiscovery]

Originally Posted by Adamus

Dude your so beyond stubborn, Roxas is the body and soul of Sora. Sora is but a heart encased in Kairis light.

PMF didn't say anything about the ppl in BBS. He explained the point in time things took place. If memories serves corectly, you dont know what happens to the ppl in BBS either

Nobody knows ANYTHING for sure. Its based on what Nomura has HINTED.. HINTED!
Unless he says for definate "Oh Vens Sora's uncle and the reason Sora's father is never mentioned is because it's Terrra and Aqua is his auntie and Kairi is his cousin."
We hardly know anything yet about from its called Birth By Sleep and its 10 years before..
It doesn't matter at this moment in time if people are stubborn.. If they believe something then they have the right to have a theory which they believe could happen.. Bearing it mind its a magical FANTASY game.. Which means that for example.. Terra could have been created by Merlin the magician in a machine..

I think he has a good point of what may happen in BBS but theres no pointing out his flaws instead of praising him for what he has said right..

Cut him some slack

[Karate]

Originally Posted by EyeOfDiscovery

Nobody knows ANYTHING for sure. Its based on what Nomura has HINTED.. HINTED!

But using brain power, we can figure out what's what, and what. Do you get it now?

Unless he says for definate "Oh Vens Sora's uncle and the reason Sora's father is never mentioned is because it's Terrra and Aqua is his auntie and Kairi is his cousin."

Haven't you learned yet? Friends>Family in KH. XD

We hardly know anything yet about from its called Birth By Sleep and its 10 years before..

When Terra, Aqua, and Ven disappear, Xehanort appeared in Radient Gardens with no memories.
Terra doesn't want to be a Keyblade master.
Ven wants Terra to "erase" him.

We do know quite a bit more than people think.

It doesn't matter at this moment in time if people are stubborn.. If they believe something then they have the right to have a theory which they believe could happen.

But if a theory ISN'T possible. Everyone esle has a right to tell them they're wrong.

Bearing it mind its a magical FANTASY game.. Which means that for example.. Terra could have been created by Merlin the magician in a machine..

But bearing in mind, Nomura's not a retard. Just because it's a fantasy game, doesn't mean ANYTHING is possible; that's just an excuse people make.

I think he has a good point of what may happen in BBS but theres no pointing out his flaws instead of praising him for what he has said right..

You want people to celebrate mediocracy, and say nothing about failure? That's not how it goes here. If someone puts out a bad theory, they should be prepared to have it called out.

Cut him some slack

Like you did me?

[*~NeoAdamus~*]

Originally Posted by EyeOfDiscovery

Nobody knows ANYTHING for sure. Its based on what Nomura has HINTED.. HINTED!
Unless he says for definate "Oh Vens Sora's uncle and the reason Sora's father is never mentioned is because it's Terrra and Aqua is his auntie and Kairi is his cousin."
We hardly know anything yet about from its called Birth By Sleep and its 10 years before..
It doesn't matter at this moment in time if people are stubborn.. If they believe something then they have the right to have a theory which they believe could happen.. Bearing it mind its a magical FANTASY game.. Which means that for example.. Terra could have been created by Merlin the magician in a machine..

I think he has a good point of what may happen in BBS but theres no pointing out his flaws instead of praising him for what he has said right..

Cut him some slack

GTFO.

This is why we have a front page with all our interviews, and are scans along with released Famitsu trailer, amongst the KH2FM+ secret ending, not to mention the reads of Another Report.

If i didn't know what i was talking about i wouldn't of said anything obviously, and if a theory which it wasnt :huh:, is flawed we will point out those flaws no matter what.

[Clowde]

Alright PMF, im sorry i insulted you, and i never said i knew anymore then you. You have yet to give me proof that Larxene is a being made up purely of a heart.Your Quotes on teh CoM Convorsations tell me that Sora managed to keep a sense of purpose even as a heartless. And So did Xehanort's heartless, if thats what Axel is implying. Im just saying. Until you show me proof that Sora is a being with no heart. I wont beleive you.

[Lexeon]

The theory is possible. But how would Aqua do it?

[Karate]

Originally Posted by Clowde

Alright PMF, im sorry i insulted you, and i never said i knew anymore then you. You have yet to give me proof that Larxene is a being made up purely of a heart.

pfft, Larxene isn't important enough.

Quotes on teh CoM Convorsations tell me that Sora managed to keep a sense of purpose even as a heartless. And So did Xehanort's heartless, if thats what Axel is implying.

Yes. It's explained either in a Nomura interview or an Ansem Report. I'll find it later, I have to get ready to leave:

Sora's heart used Kairi's as an intermediate to return to human form.

Im just saying. Until you show me proof that Sora is a being with no heart. I wont beleive you.

Not NO heart, just a heart. He lost his heart, created Roxas, and his heartless used Kairi's heart to return to human.

[Clowde]

Yeah sorry about that i mistyped. And He didnt use Kairis heart to return to human form. Nomura told us that Kairi Fished his heart out of the darkness and gave it back to him. IF anything im willing to accept hes a being of only a heart, i just dont liek being called a newb.

[Karate]

Originally Posted by Clowde

Yeah sorry about that i mistyped. And He didnt use Kairis heart to return to human form. Nomura told us that Kairi Fished his heart out of the darkness and gave it back to him.

With the exception of Namine, Nobodies remember their time as humans.
But Sora's Nobody, "Roxas", has lost the memories of when he was Sora.

The reason for this may be that Sora spent little time as a Heartless while
Roxas was left behind as a Nobody, and returned to becoming a human with a
heart.

Somehow, Roxas is similar to Namine. While being Kairi's Nobody, Namine was born
using Sora's body and soul as an intermediary.
And Roxas was Sora's Nobody, left behind when Sora returned to being a human
through not his own heart, but using Kairi's heart as an intermediary.

I believe that Sora's memory restoration is delayed due to having lost half of
himself, Roxas.
I must turn him into data, and return him to Sora.

No, I'm right. :mellow:

IF anything im willing to accept hes a being of only a heart, i just dont liek being called a newb.

Well you technically ARE a nweb. Not newb as in the sense that you know nothing. Newb in the sense that you are new. We actually separate the words here. Welcome back to KHI. ^_^

[MARLUXIA1]

Originally Posted by jadenyuki99

Uhh.. im new to these forums so be nice.. :rolleyes:


I think that.. Somehow when Terra was asked to erase Ven in the leaked trailer.. Terra somehow "merged" vens with soras.

Ven asked terra do erase him in destiny islands right? Thats where Sora was at the time period >.>

So when Soras heart was released in order to save kairi? It was auctually VENS HEART RELEASED...

Vens heart might be the key reason on roxas looks like ven o.O


EDIT: o.O I just saw the leaked trailer again and remembered the screenshot of ven on destiny islands with aqua's shadow..You could see that at the end of the leaked trailer meaning that it was not terra that was asked to erase Ven but AQUA.. watch the last few seconds of the leak
be nice..
-end theory-

This actually makes sense.

[Artistry of Schedius]

ok i just had a brainwave last night. look at this: Ven(left handed + sora(right handed)=Roxas (ambidextrous?)??? not really sure of this..is Roxas ambidextrous?

[big don mega]

i'm pretty sure that roxas, sora and ven are ambidexterous

[Artistry of Schedius]

o-kay then...its just a thought.it just Roxas dualweilds in all battles...yeah they might be all ambidextrous

[zike389]

Originally Posted by ( X_Roxas_XD

no not yet....you have to wai tfor the Square Enix party they were talking about.and hopefully the should/would confirm it release date.hope it comes out in the UK..i cant wait to buy it for Xmas(i know still 6 months and a few weeks to go..*sigh*)i'll be furious if they dont...

same hare but I will tell you more

[Artistry of Schedius]

hey zike389 do i know you?i cant remember.....i will post something if i have another brainwave.