Thoeories about "awakening" and keyblade master extinction

[oreo_the_khluvr]

My first theory is that every keyblade master had an awakening experience like Sora's dream when they receive the keyblade. Roxas had one too on the third day. Nobody or not he was still a keyblade master. Even though he had the keyblade before that his memories of his time in the Organization and having the keyblade were lost when DiZ digitized him so he had to have another one. Terra, Ven, Aqua, and MX must have had one too, though I don't know about Riku, Kairi, and King Mickey.

Now, the events of BBS took place ten years before KH. During this time and for awhile before that there were apparently many keyblade masters, but between the end of BBS and the beginning of KH there are no signs of any keyblade masters. My theory is that there was a period of time when the keyblade masters were extinct.

Well, that's all! Disscus, debate, and enjoy!:thumbsup:

[big don mega]

there wern't that many keyblade masters, just keyblade users. sora and roxas, as much as i hate to admit it, are not masters, just users. same for riku and kairi, mickey is the only one that had the training to be a master

[Somnus]

Originally Posted by big don mega

there wern't that many keyblade masters, just keyblade users. sora and roxas, as much as i hate to admit it, are not masters, just users. same for riku and kairi, mickey is the only one that had the training to be a master

On the contrary, Sora was chosen by the keyblade whereas the others were possibly manufactured. And notice the level of detail in the architecture of the other keyblades compare to the limited Keyblade Sora possess which may contain more power from the ability of using keychains.We are in the assumption that those who are chosen are the true heirs. V.A.T. may have been chosen by their master to become the true successor.

But Im just rambling on. I'll just be specific: we just don't know.

[xjeezlouisx]

Sora and Roxas are the same and of course there going to have the same dream......
and only chosen members were allowed to hold the keyblade

[big don mega]

i'm to tired to make sence but i'll try to explain it.
mickey was trained with the keyblade=master
VAT is being trained with the keyblade=aprentice
sora has the keyblade but is self taught=neither

mickey is a jedi;VAT are padawons; sora, roxas, riku, and kairi only have the force and know how to use it

[xjeezlouisx]

Originally Posted by big don mega

mickey was trained with the keyblade=master
VAT is being trained with the keyblade=aprentice
sora has the keyblade but is self taught=neither

uhhh no.....
wasn't at the time Terra Aqua Ven were apprentices same time with mickey?
and neither there was a master...

[griever]

Hmm this is one thing that has been annoying me lately, people going on about Sora's status as the Keyblade master/bearer user. He is not insignificant, he is THE chosen keyblade wielder.

Mickey had a keyblade before the events of Kingdom Hearts 1, I think we can all agree on that, it was in the Ansem Reports. And yet despite having a key of his own Mickey sent out Donald and Goofy to find the bearer of the key "THAT key is the key to our survival" there is something about Sora's key that Mickey's quite obviously lacks. I am of the understanding that the status of Master has NOTHING to do with the level of training you've received but by the choosing of the keyblade, which as we all know after the struggle of Riku and Sora for the Kingdom Key, is based on the strength of your heart NOT the level of battle training you've received.

Sora is referred to as the Master of the Keyblade so many times in KH that it is not even worth debating, you wanna argue that they didn't use the term master in the same sense that it is being used in BBS? Fine, why does Mickey seem to think Sora is so much more important than himself, why does Master Yen Sid call Sora "The Key that connects everything" instead of Riku or Mickey, master Yen Sid may well not have known about the status of Riku but he certainly knew about Mickey's situation.

Please, anyone who cares to argue with me on this one, feel free to try, I'm currently re-playing through KH1 and I've just finished replaying KH2 so all the quotes I'll need to make a solid argument are fresh in my mind.

[Karate]

Originally Posted by Somnus

On the contrary, Sora was chosen by the keyblade

Did you play KH1? He wasn't chosen by the Keyblade. He accidentally got it. And when the KEyblade had the chance to choose between him and its true owner, it went to its true owner.

whereas the others were possibly manufactured.

Why because they don't have Keychains? I think that Sora's Keyblade is sort of a practice Keyblade.

[griever]

[quote=PostMentalFerocity;3000673]Did you play KH1? He wasn't chosen by the Keyblade. He accidentally got it. And when the KEyblade had the chance to choose between him and its true owner, it went to its true owner.

Said this earlier in my thread but I'll add a bit here, while the keyblade was obviously initially meant for Riku, I still think Sora stakes claim as its master now. I'd say one of the better examples of why this is would be that when Leon and Captain Jack have the keyblade Sora is able to take it back (or it is drawn back to him), I daresay that if the Keyblade didn't care either way it wouldn't have returned to him.

[big don mega]

Originally Posted by xjeezlouisx

uhhh no.....
wasn't at the time Terra Aqua Ven were apprentices same time with mickey?
and neither there was a master...

yes but i don't think that they live to be masters, while mickey does. so thats why i put him as a master and not an aprentice.

Originally Posted by griever

Hmm this is one thing that has been annoying me lately, people going on about Sora's status as the Keyblade master/bearer user. He is not insignificant, he is THE chosen keyblade wielder.

i'm not saying that he's insignificant. i'm just saying that hes not trained but self-taught. still significant but not a master until mickey or any other master trains him

[xjeezlouisx]

i just think that anyone can obtain a key blade if they have the heart
i dont really know how to say it but like a good heart

[libraxege]

actually mickey had the keyblade during that ""gap" of period. And who knows if VAT or the DS or MX died??? if one of them didn't die, then here's another keyblade wielder. And know that keyblade master is different from keyblade wielder or barer!

[roxaskeyoflight]

I'm not sure maybe special occasion call for an awakening process such as when sora went through his and the same thing for Roxas maybe its a way of testing someone to see if their worthy of weilding the keyblade.

[Neku99]

This is freaking me out!!! but really sora is the keyblade master no doubt about that...unless something pops up that we dont know

[roxaskeyoflight]

Maybe awakenings are used to test certain people abilities to weild the keyblade i might be wrong but its just my theory on the matter.