A badly thought of and filled with plot holes theroy

[Chaser]

When Master Xehenort pronounced 'The walls of light and dark pushed together and created the ORIGINAL me'. Maybe he use to be a heartless or a nobody and the DS is his opposite. Like how Sora came back in Kh 1, Master Xehenort could have done that and the DS is his nobody. Or how the Org. wanted there hearts while they are nobodies, Master Xehenort could be a nobody and his DS is his heartless. And that would explain why Ven and Aqua went after the DS while Terra tried to weaken Xehenort.

I dunno. Just though of that...

[SuperNova]

One problem,how can he be a nobody and DS be a heartless when the heartless and nobodies didn't exist during BBS?

It's been said by Tetsuya Nomura himself.

Also,Nobodies aren't created when Light and Darkness clash with each other.

[Chaser]

Told ya there were plot holes. ha

[The Light]

Originally Posted by M.o.N

One problem,how can he be a nobody and DS be a heartless when the heartless and nobodies didn't exist during BBS?

It's been said by Tetsuya Nomura himself.

Also,Nobodies aren't created when Light and Darkness clash with each other.

ya ur right bout nobodies but it can b true bout nobody and ds c they were always aound but they didnt become huge till atw started his research with appretice xehnenort but they always been around just sorta hidden till xehnort bcame a heartless/nobody thats when they spread accross all the worlds plus one of them has 2 b a heartless/nobody bcause they keyblade originated with to destroy heartless/nobody thats its job and nobodys sorta r light and dark there twilight in between light and dark example wat im talkin bout check out twilight town

[Karate]

Originally Posted by The Light

ya ur right bout nobodies but it can b true bout nobody and ds c they were always aound but they didnt become huge till atw started his research with appretice xehnenort but they always been around just sorta hidden till xehnort bcame a heartless/nobody thats when they spread accross all the worlds plus one of them has 2 b a heartless/nobody bcause they keyblade originated with to destroy heartless/nobody thats its job and nobodys sorta r light and dark there twilight in between light and dark example wat im talkin bout check out twilight town

Use punctuation and correct english damn you.

No, heartless and nobodies didn't always exist. The heartless were created by Xehanort, and nobodies were a side effect.

[Lezard Valeth]

Well, I doubt he could have been a heartless, but I don't that he could have been something similar.

As for Nobody, it's harder to say if they existed or not before... In the doubt I'd say no, but this is a possibility, more than him being an heartless.

[Karate]

Originally Posted by Lezard Valeth

Well, I doubt he could have been a heartless, but I don't that he could have been something similar.

As for Nobody, it's harder to say if they existed or not before... In the doubt I'd say no, but this is a possibility, more than him being an heartless.

For a nobody to be created, you need a heartless which weren't created until AFTER Xehanort created heartless. So MX CAN'T be a nobody.

[Lezard Valeth]

Originally Posted by PostMentalFerocity

For a nobody to be created, you need a heartless which weren't created until AFTER Xehanort created heartless. So MX CAN'T be a nobody.

That depends. What I mean is that, Nobody are a side effect not wanted by Xehanort originally. It is something happening often in science, you want something but in creating it though an experiment, you get something you didn't want to create.

Element A + Element B = Element Z
Person + Darkness = Heartless (for making short)

But, there is the side effect no one really wants :

Element A + Element B = Element Z + Element Y
Person + Darkness = Heartless + Nobody

Now, the Element Y most often can be created another way, a way where we intend to get it and where it's not a side effect.

Element C + Element D = Element Y
And so...
??? + ??? = Nobody.

It's just a possibility, I don't believe much in it, but since KH tries to makes the Heartless and Nobody creation like a scientific experiment, it is a possibility, leaving a door for Nomura to put a Nobody in BBS. It's weird, but I don't think it's what would stop Nomura.

[Karate]

Originally Posted by Lezard Valeth

That depends. What I mean is that, Nobody are a side effect not wanted by Xehanort originally. It is something happening often in science, you want something but in creating it though an experiment, you get something you didn't want to create.

Element A + Element B = Element Z
Person + Darkness = Heartless (for making short)

But, there is the side effect no one really wants :

Element A + Element B = Element Z + Element Y
Person + Darkness = Heartless + Nobody

Now, the Element Y most often can be created another way, a way where we intend to get it and where it's not a side effect.

Element C + Element D = Element Y
And so...
??? + ??? = Nobody.

It's just a possibility, I don't believe much in it, but since KH tries to makes the Heartless and Nobody creation like a scientific experiment, it is a possibility, leaving a door for Nomura to put a Nobody in BBS. It's weird, but I don't think it's what would stop Nomura.

Trying to bring real life logic doesn't equate here. You can use your varibles, but it all still means the same thing. MX isn't a nobody.

A nobody is formed when a strong herted person loses their heart and becomes a heartless. If Xehanort created heartless, in effect creating nobodies, how can MX be one? You say that side effects don't happen often, that would be correct. IT only happened once, when Xehanort did it.

Do I have to get the Nomura interview?

[Lezard Valeth]

No, I remember the interviews. And still, I think there can be many doors for letting MX be a nobody. I absolutely don't believe in him being a Nobody, but I think the theory can be plausible to a certain extent.
Also, even though I agree real life logic cannot apply to Kingdom Hearts, so far the Heartless experiment followed more or less logic of real life, with two element at the start, one product unexpected, etc etc...

Beside, I wonder until where we can believe the interviews. Not trying to criticize Nomura or disprove his interview, that'd be totally stupid from me. But they are translation : I saw tons of Japanese translation having mistake, even official, the translator would have interpreted "The Heartless didn't appear back then", while the original thought was "The heartless were few back then." Remember, one of the translation of MX is "Cross the wall between Light and Darkness, to me." while the first translation was "The walls of light and dark pushed together and created the original me".
Also, sometime, he changes his thought (I think he said Ansem was the only Heartless having kept his original form, and still we have Scar...).
Even though his interviews is what we have of best, they aren't 100% sure to be true...

[FINALDISNEY]

ever think that mabye DS is one of the new enimies nomura was speaking of?...da?

[OmniChaos]

*facepalm* All this arguing over a mistranslation...

YouTube - KH: Birth by Sleep Jump Festa 2008 Mock Trailer in ENGLISH

MX says "...Cross the wall between light and darkness, to me..."

[Chaser]

Originally Posted by OmniChaos

*facepalm* All this arguing over a mistranslation...

YouTube - KH: Birth by Sleep Jump Festa 2008 Mock Trailer in ENGLISH

MX says "...Cross the wall between light and darkness, to me..."

I told you guys it was a badly thought of theory! And man, a mis-translation. Oh well.