MX,VEN,TERRA HUGE Theory!!

[OmniChaos]

Originally Posted by DarkSoldier85

Also, if MX combined with Terra, they would be separated when Xehanort became a Heartless (i think).

Well, when MX and Terra merged, they created a new being named Xehanort... The heartless and nobody belong to him, but still reflect MX and Terra...

[MDK Phoshterxic]

Wow.

That is one long moth*r f*cking theory...

Umm... There's a few holes there, that I'm sure, with a little thinking you can cover up well, you seem smart, so I'm sure you'll be able to, work on it a little, and make it a little easier to read, like make on paragraph a sentence, rather than having brick-sized layers of paragraphs.

Um... yeah, seems legit, but as I said, there's some holes.

[The Light]

Originally Posted by ShadowKeyMaster

burn this:
in one scene where Saix was talking 2 sora,donald,goofy
Donald:"Hearts? You dont have hearts!"
Saix:"True, but we remember wat it was like to have to have a heart".
maybe Xemnas doesnt remember having a heart, but i just think thats cuz he was an asshole

he only says that to trick sora and donald plus u need more evidence i dont rember wat he said exact words but go to the yen sid scene when hes tellin sora bout the nobodies

[The Light]

Originally Posted by ShadowKeyMaster

damn
u just might be on to somethin there
hmmm...
so then if MX is back, then that could lead 2 future KH games with Sora
...
O SHIT!

ahhhh get over it and so much time might past where it could b a new character plus wats ur issue with sora

[Dawn at Dusk]

Well, it seems like several of theories in one setting, but I do agree with the semi-logic of these theories and it seems like it could be a definite possibility to quite a few things that we don't know about the KH universe, so thank you for the half-a-page long statement on your theories.( and seriously thanx )

[Organization_42]

Originally Posted by ShadowKeyMaster

1. the reason Roxas says hes sad and hateful is because nobodies REMEMBER having hearts and act like they do.

But Roxas doesn't remember his life as Sora. That's one of his big personal issues; he doesn't really know who he is, and the Organization will only drop hints based on what will benefit them.

So he can't fake frustration and anger, he doesn't remember what it felt like. Any emotions he feels would have to come from somewhere in himself.

[ShadowKeyMaster]

Originally Posted by The Light

ahhhh get over it and so much time might past where it could b a new character plus wats ur issue with sora

dude, wuts ur issue w me?
go try 2 f*** up someone elses theory, cuz its not workin on mine

[ShadowKeyMaster]

Originally Posted by Organization_42

But Roxas doesn't remember his life as Sora. That's one of his big personal issues; he doesn't really know who he is, and the Organization will only drop hints based on what will benefit them.

So he can't fake frustration and anger, he doesn't remember what it felt like. Any emotions he feels would have to come from somewhere in himself.

he does remember b4 hes captured by riku and Diz
but wen he gets his mind erased, he thinks hes just a normal person

[Organization_42]

He knew that he was a Nobody, but he didn't have any memories of his past life as Sora:

Originally Posted by Secret Ansem Report 12

Apart from Namine’, Nobodies retain their memories of their time as humans, but Sora’s Nobody, Roxas, has lost his memories. This is likely because Sora’s time as a Heartless was short, having recovered his heart and returned to his human form soon after leaving behind Roxas, his Nobody.

[HadesDragon]

Problem: We never see Ven's heart leaving Sora's body when he stabbed himself with the Heart Unlocker..

Not that I support the theory, but do you really think Nomura planned that far ahead? At the time of KH1, he probably had only at most a vague idea of Ven and the rest of BBS. Supposing Ven's heart was inside Sora (which, again, isn't really something I'm for or against), I don't think that's a factor to consider.

[OmniChaos]

Originally Posted by HadesDragon

Not that I support the theory, but do you really think Nomura planned that far ahead? At the time of KH1, he probably had only at most a vague idea of Ven and the rest of BBS. Supposing Ven's heart was inside Sora (which, again, isn't really something I'm for or against), I don't think that's a factor to consider.

But, you have to remember, Nomura wouldn't just throw something in there that would contradict what is already known fact... He would try to have it fit in with KH1 without changing what we saw happen in KH1...

[ShadowKeyMaster]

Originally Posted by HadesDragon

Not that I support the theory, but do you really think Nomura planned that far ahead? At the time of KH1, he probably had only at most a vague idea of Ven and the rest of BBS. Supposing Ven's heart was inside Sora (which, again, isn't really something I'm for or against), I don't think that's a factor to consider.

i think its a definite possibility
i mean look at FF7,
Nomura must have planned that he wud soon come out with spinoff games of it like: Crisis Core, Dirge of Cerberus, and even the movie
now im not sayin that HadesDragon's theory isnt rite, i think that mite be so, but we definately cant say that IS wats happening

BTW, Hades, thats a BAD ASS icon

[IHaveItMemorized]

great theory, and like some one replied before there are a lot of IFFFFFSSSSSSS! but really its a good theory

[Detronilizer]

Originally Posted by WilFrEDo 12

Everyone knows there is a new leaked bbs video and even one with subtitles,well i would like to point out something strange but maybe important from this trailer.In the leaked video MX quotes "those who submit to the darkness....are not qualified to wield the keyblade(with a desprate look on his face)" that comfirms that at least through most of bbs maybe until that fight between MX vs terra,aqua,and ven;he doesnt hold the keyblade and that is why he wants terra to "cross over to the darkness".MX uses ven as a pawn and instills something bad on his heart and forces terra to have to surrender(possibly his body) for his friend.I believe by this time MX discovers he is capable of weilding a keyblade even if he is dark but is far old for his body and the fight begins to over throw MX!

The person who subbed the video messed up that part. That was the first thing MX said. The second part was: "That man is a demon who has delved too deep into the darkness. Please defeat the darkness and correct my mistake!"

So MX was referring to the DS when he said "Those who submit to the darkness are not qualified to wield the Keyblade.".

Originally Posted by WilFrEDo 12

did anybody ever wonder why xehanort sent 6 organization members to castle obivion and what was their mission?maybe for the same reason why he has aquas amor in the room of sleep which he calls FRIEND(a word that terra uses when referring to roxas when talking to MX). maybe because he was starting to remember!!!!and how would he know ven was in such a place,

Their mission was to perform experiments on memory using Naminé. But Xemnas had another goal in mind, and somehow, Xigbar was about the only one who found out: Xemnas was trying to find the Room of Awakening, which supposedly housed the other "friend". Xemnas seems to know more than people think...

Originally Posted by WilFrEDo 12

maybe a certain 14th member of organization tells him because shes the one that put him there *cough aqua Cough*

Maybe, but remember that Aqua hasn't been confirmed to be the 14th member.

Originally Posted by WilFrEDo 12

but sadly sora destroys half of the organization before they find anything.

Again, looking for the Room of Sleep wasn't those members' mission. Only Xemnas (and Xigbar) knew.

Originally Posted by WilFrEDo 12

why else would they make roxas identity so important that you cant see his birth until the end of 358/2!?!?!if he's just a regular nobody with no heart why cant they just show his birth right away??

Roxas' birth was shown in a new cutscene in KH2:FM. Roxas wakes up in Twilight Town, then Xemnas gives him his name. That's no secret - In KH2, Nomura stated that he wanted to put in that scene, and now he did.

Originally Posted by WilFrEDo 12

i think its cause something that isnt suppose to happens,and a free heart falls in the grasp of nobody.ven aslo shows emotion various times,stating he "hates sora" and being "sad" when it was time for him to be whole with sora.

Well, first of all, stop messing up Ven's name with Roxas', it's getting confusing. Anyway, it's been said that Roxas supposedly had a heart. Nomura says that this only brings up more mysteries about Roxas and that it has something to do with Xehanort's memories...

Originally Posted by WilFrEDo 12

my theory about the MX and terra thing is that after BBS MX uses kingdom hearts to possess terra but losses his memory at the same time,(i dont think numura was in love with the name xehanort so he named 2 key characters the same name)Causing him to have neutral brown eyes.as his life passes by he seeks the truth of the darkness and the keyblade(even going against his own master ansems orders of stopping the search)he seperates into 2 beings XEHANORT & xemnas they bear a striking resemblance to terra and MX and again i'm sure their not half brothers.Xehanort has the MX's jacket,gloves,boots,terras facial structure and hair & MX's eyes..mhmm maybe they shop at the same clothing store & are wearing contacts ..i dont think so!sora destroys both xehanorts heartless and nobody;what now??one word-WHOLE.which is where XEHANORT stands with a new body,full memory,youth,a keyblade,and a new boss that sora is gonna have a hell of a time with,Kudos to MX for such a masterful plan i guess thats why they call him Master xehanort!

"Terra+MX=Xehanort" is a very popular theory with lots of evidence, too much to put here. Read one of the threads to learn more about it.

Originally Posted by The Light

he only says that to trick sora and donald plus u need more evidence i dont rember wat he said exact words but go to the yen sid scene when hes tellin sora bout the nobodies

No, Nobodies do remember what it's like to have hearts. Nobodies cannot feel emotion, but they know what emotions are, because they remember what it was like. Nobodies trick people into thinking they're feeling emotions, but really they don't - they're just using what they remember to express those emotions.