Maleficent/14th

kingdomheartstf · 05-09-2008, 04:16 AM

You know how Maleficent became a heartless, a nobody would have been created to. What if shes Maleficent nobody

Adamus · 05-09-2008, 04:25 AM

just no, Maleficents heart isn't strong enough to become a nobody, nor was she ever a heartless. She utilized the power of Darkness, but as Xehanorts heartless claimed, the darkness was eating away at her, the heartless was merely using her.

although maleficent did come back, the organization, Saiix specifically pwned her against her own ignorance. The heartless respond to whoever is stronger.

Maitaj · 05-09-2008, 04:28 AM

Yeah, what Adamus said pretty much summarizes it

septiroth99 · 05-09-2008, 05:18 AM

yeah, and the picture of 14th doesn't look like malificent (altough you only see the shape...and some skin)

Maitaj · 05-09-2008, 05:36 AM

Yes, exactly... but don't forget that they can change appearance a little.. and anyway, all the other Heartless Leaders would have a Nobody too

Xuan · 05-09-2008, 06:58 AM

I would say her heart is strong enough to form a Nobody, but since when did she turned into a Heartless?

kurokitsunefang · 05-09-2008, 07:22 AM

Maleficent is a worm
there's no way she'd become a nobody with a human form

M.o.N · 05-09-2008, 09:03 AM

If she became a nobody,then her nobody body would match,right?

Anyways,Adamus explained it clearly....

Xuan · 05-09-2008, 09:11 AM

There are many scumbags in Kingdom Hearts that has a Nobody, and that would have included Maleficient if she's a Heartless... Remember, she has used the power of Darkness for a very long time, and used it more than Riku as well, and yet her heart was swallowed by the Darkness. Her heart is strong.

Leonard · 05-09-2008, 09:40 AM

Ahem....

And besides, they probably wouldn't give any non-original Kingdom Hearts Character such a significance to the main plot.

Adamus · 05-09-2008, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by Xuan

There are many scumbags in Kingdom Hearts that has a Nobody, and that would have included Maleficient if she's a Heartless... Remember, she has used the power of Darkness for a very long time, and used it more than Riku as well, and yet her heart was swallowed by the Darkness. Her heart is strong.

And i happen to disagree, If those scumbags you talk about are the organization, that's a whole nother level for they gave themselves to darkness embracing its power, atleast from what we know through ATWs apprentices and his own experience in the realm of nothingness. He wanted nothing to do with darkness which was slowly eating away at him but with befriending it he was actually able to utilize for his own benefits. Riku utilized the power of darkness but his heart against soras was like 1 to 1000 when Sora took the KK back from him, and XH specifically said that for that moment your heart was weak, and who he was at that moment reflected from Maleficent. Xehanort wanted Riku to truly utilize that power of darkness without being swallowed within it that way XH could atleast have a host attached to darkness who had a strong heart hence the return Of XH and the use of the Souleater. MAleficent utilized darkness but it was also swallowing her heart, and someones heart who is completely swallowed by darkness, fall into it which is not what anyone wants. MAleficent wanted control of the heartless but she couldn't see that the heartless were using her just because of her power. As XH explained, she had power of darkness while in turn that darkness was using her, she was weak and she was beaten easily by a heart that was much stronger same as the battle between Riku and Sora.

I truly doubt Maleficent would ever have a nobody, she hardly qualifies for a strong heart which we see through her encounter with Saiix and XH

Xuan · 05-09-2008, 10:55 AM

The fact that she survived using the Darkness for so long had proved her heart's strength. You cannot deny that. Her heart might be weaker than Sora and Riku's, but that doesn't make her heart weak. What you're saying is like Hayner or Olette will have a weak heart, which we know they don't.

And the fact that Maleficient was willing to save Sora to destroy the Organization shows that Maleficient is willing to go against her own will so to protect her cause. A sacrifice of pride cannot be done by those who are weak hearted, and Maleficient, despite all of her evil, has a strong heart. It is undeniable.

Akans · 05-09-2008, 11:29 AM

Sure Malificent has a strong heart and all, that's easy to believe, but I agree with Lenny that SE would not use a Disney character as an important person in the plot.
Mickey, Donald, and Goofy were exceptions cuz they were the "mascots" of Disney, really. I hadn't heard of Malificent before KH came out.... really, I thought she was from Beauty and the Beast originaly XD

big don mega · 05-09-2008, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by M.o.N

If she became a nobody,then her nobody body would match,right?

Anyways,Adamus explained it clearly....

no. when sora was a shadow, roxas was still roxas

**HadesDragon** · 05-09-2008, 01:07 PM

They wouldn't give a Disney character a nobody. Disney wouldn't let them.