Maleficent/14th - Page 2

Enigmatic Roxas · 05-09-2008, 01:23 PM

Rofl. This idea is soooo insane haha.

Adamus explained that well, she cant be that. Even if she has a nobody, it wouldnt be the 14th. Malefiz is a Disney Character, so Square cant work on her, they must take her usual look, and thats all.

M.o.N · 05-09-2008, 04:42 PM

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And besides, they probably wouldn't give any non-original Kingdom Hearts Character such a significance to the main plot

Well,Tron was important in the main plot.

Leonard · 05-09-2008, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by M.o.N

Well,Tron was important in the main plot.

Well, of course I know that Malefy had a lot of significance in Kingdom Hearts 1, being one of the main villains.

But still, she never acted as more of a kind of "boss" of the Disney section of enemies, and I doubt she'd ever have that much of an importance within KH's original characters as the 14th Member has.

M.o.N · 05-09-2008, 04:58 PM

Well,by watching the last scene of Malificent and pete,I think they may return,but as an un important or sidequest character?

Enigmatic Roxas · 05-09-2008, 05:00 PM

I think we are going to see Tron again, in BBS. We know that Ansem, probably the heartless Ansem, or the Xehanort with stolen name, used Tron. So he was the user of him.

Leonard · 05-09-2008, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by M.o.N

Well,by watching the last scene of Malificent and pete,I think they may return,but as an un important or sidequest character?

Personally, I hope they just take over that damn castle and stay there.

It seems the only time we really needed a character like Malificent was, when we had all those Disney Villains working together and meeting together with a "leader".

In KH2 she was just acting by herself and being annoying. Heck, she didn't even have a bossfight.

^@ER: Most definitely.

AntiSora92 · 05-09-2008, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Enigmatic Roxas

I think we are going to see Tron again, in BBS. We know that Ansem, probably the heartless Ansem, or the Xehanort with stolen name, used Tron. So he was the user of him.

Of course, he did mention that the system was a copy of an earlier one by ENCOM. But Tron has no heart since he is a program, so no Heartless or Nobody just de-rezzed

Cloud02 · 05-09-2008, 05:12 PM

What if the maleficent that came back in KH2 was maleficents nobody they might look like twins

Leonard · 05-09-2008, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloud02

What if the maleficent that came back in KH2 was maleficents nobody they might look like twins

So when did Malificent ever turn into a heartless, mate?

Adamus · 05-09-2008, 07:09 PM

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The fact that she survived using the Darkness for so long had proved her heart's strength. You cannot deny that. Her heart might be weaker than Sora and Riku's, but that doesn't make her heart weak. What you're saying is like Hayner or Olette will have a weak heart, which we know they don't.

And the fact that Maleficient was willing to save Sora to destroy the Organization shows that Maleficient is willing to go against her own will so to protect her cause. A sacrifice of pride cannot be done by those who are weak hearted, and Maleficient, despite all of her evil, has a strong heart. It is undeniable.

LOL, who cares if she lasted with Darkness for so long, the fact is, is that she wanted more darkness because with more darkness came more power and its root were the heartless which she aimed to control. This on the other fell fast for the fact that the heartless are just using her and in its midst is the Darkness beginning to make her weaker. A heart can be strong but that doesn't stop it from becoming weak. Anger, Hate, Love and Friendship are all components to a heart KH wise and thats what Hayner Olette and so on share. Through strong emotions they have the ability to change in ideals within the components of their hearts. Maleficent failed in this area in for her own successes, her darkness was hers alone and she'd do anything to gain more and more of its power thus would she slowly lead her heart to be swallowed in Darkness, the very thing she wanted the most. And as far as her protecting Sora, what other choice did she have. That wasn't an act of kindness this was an act of mutual agreement, Saiix could have killed her and he doesn't have a heart. He took her heartless and he could have taken more rendering her useless. It was Xemnas plan to bring her back so someone stupid enough would continue to have more touch with the heartless to go after Sora. And as for pride, if she had it she wouldn't of had her legion of doom not to mention the fact she used Riku to get Kairi and stop Sora while she idly sat back in the shadows.

She is weak hearted

**gungonX** · 05-09-2008, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by HadesDragon

They wouldn't give a Disney character a nobody. Disney wouldn't let them.

Is this due to Disney's morals and respectable conduct? Or the fact they didn't want it corrupting the character so to speak?

Adamus · 05-09-2008, 07:57 PM

i believe more towards corruption of the character. well waitaminute was scar a heartless or just merely a ghost, cause i forgot

~Key of Destiny~ · 05-09-2008, 08:48 PM

The whole debate about the strength of Maleficent's heart is irrevalent because Maleficent never became a heartless in the first place. It's true that the darkness was eating away at her, but her heart never left her body. No heartless, no nobody.

MATGSY · 05-09-2008, 09:46 PM

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So when did Malificent ever turn into a heartless, mate?

Her dragon form. Rikunort very clearly "opened her heart to darkness" & told her to "become darkness itself". Sounds like a heartless to me.

Xuan · 05-09-2008, 10:35 PM

But yet she retained her form, so she wasn't a Heartless.

Remember, Maleficient herself had warned Riku that overusing the Darkness would bring dire consequences. She clearly knew when to stop using the power of Darkness, and not like what you said, the lust for more power of Darkness so she could control more Heartless. She only do things within her limits, or else she would've last so long. That makes her heart strong.

Even villains have strong heart, there's no denying to that.

05-09-2008, 01:23 PM	#16
Enigmatic Roxas Organization Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Twilight Town RL Switzerland ^^ Age: 15 Posts: 354 Rep Power: 0	Re: Maleficent/14th Rofl. This idea is soooo insane haha. Adamus explained that well, she cant be that. Even if she has a nobody, it wouldnt be the 14th. Malefiz is a Disney Character, so Square cant work on her, they must take her usual look, and thats all. __________________ Note: This signature is made by me, ask me when you want to have it! Sleep gives birth to the concealed fate of the past.

05-09-2008, 04:58 PM	#19
M.o.N A Legend Unchained Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Forbidden Land of Ancients Age: 11 Posts: 2,424 Rep Power: 4	Re: Maleficent/14th Well,by watching the last scene of Malificent and pete,I think they may return,but as an un important or sidequest character?

05-09-2008, 05:00 PM	#20
Enigmatic Roxas Organization Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Twilight Town RL Switzerland ^^ Age: 15 Posts: 354 Rep Power: 0	Re: Maleficent/14th I think we are going to see Tron again, in BBS. We know that Ansem, probably the heartless Ansem, or the Xehanort with stolen name, used Tron. So he was the user of him. __________________ Note: This signature is made by me, ask me when you want to have it! Sleep gives birth to the concealed fate of the past.

05-09-2008, 05:12 PM	#23
Cloud02 Heartless Join Date: May 2008 Location: Auckland NZ Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Re: Maleficent/14th What if the maleficent that came back in KH2 was maleficents nobody they might look like twins

05-09-2008, 07:57 PM	#27
Adamus Samurai Warriorz Join Date: May 2007 Location: your mom's bed Age: 19 Posts: 2,323 Rep Power: 4	Re: Maleficent/14th i believe more towards corruption of the character. well waitaminute was scar a heartless or just merely a ghost, cause i forgot __________________ ADAMUS Rise Of The Samurai *"To a real warrior, power perceived may be power achieved."* Evolution - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ2o0...eature=related

05-09-2008, 08:48 PM	#28
~Key of Destiny~ Keyblade Novice Join Date: May 2008 Location: TWTNW Age: 17 Posts: 66 Rep Power: 0	Re: Maleficent/14th The whole debate about the strength of Maleficent's heart is irrevalent because Maleficent never became a heartless in the first place. It's true that the darkness was eating away at her, but her heart never left her body. No heartless, no nobody.

05-09-2008, 10:35 PM	#30
Xuan FanFic Slayer, K.Theorist Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: I am human, no worries. I don't suck brain juice anyway, it's too juicy. Posts: 1,002 Rep Power: 0	Re: Maleficent/14th But yet she retained her form, so she wasn't a Heartless. Remember, Maleficient herself had warned Riku that overusing the Darkness would bring dire consequences. She clearly knew when to stop using the power of Darkness, and not like what you said, the lust for more power of Darkness so she could control more Heartless. She only do things within her limits, or else she would've last so long. That makes her heart strong. Even villains have strong heart, there's no denying to that. __________________ My life was once broken, unwholed by the cruel hands called family, but you have made me whole. Now, even though your heart might not be with me, but I swear to myself that my heart shall forever protect yours.

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