A NEW Terra+MX=Xehanort theory - Page 2

realmofkeyblades · 05-06-2008, 08:43 PM

watever it is going to be.... i know
square enix knows how to pull off a good one...
so im saying that terra isnt going to do anything with master xehanort
being combine together it just dosent seem right and plus Terra is my favorite
character and i would hate to to seem him end up with mx

**HadesDragon** · 05-06-2008, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by realmofkeyblades

watever it is going to be.... i know
square enix knows how to pull off a good one...
so im saying that terra isnt going to do anything with master xehanort
being combine together it just dosent seem right and plus Terra is my favorite
character and i would hate to to seem him end up with mx

...you do realize there's a lot of evidence for that, right?

And who do you think Xehanort is then?

Adamus · 05-06-2008, 09:20 PM

The relationship between Terra and MX seems quite odd. It could be possible that MX may have taught the ways in utilizing darkness. A part of MX was relinquished within Terra, and in the end does he fully unleash that darkness Like Riku did in the battle with Roxas

The_Zero_Heart · 05-07-2008, 12:54 AM

hmm that sounds reasonable adamus it sounds alot beeter than saying that MX and Terra combine.

i know KH to be a game to have some random ridiculous meanings to it...but to have 2 ppl combine...i mean i would understand the nobody and other coming back to make the whole but 2 different sources? thats just getting too ridiculous and kinda straying wouldn't you think?

idk i guess just seeing all those Terra MX =Xehanort theories just dont settle well with me.

UrbanQuattrus · 05-07-2008, 01:23 AM

Originally Posted by aquavenkeyblade

i like it. however there are plenty of other threads along the lines of this. having said that i hope that BBS is something unexpected and not thought of by us on the forums.

It most probably will be something none of us have thought of.

Xziled · 05-07-2008, 02:01 AM

Originally Posted by HeartlesGuardian

So reading around, I have seen alot of Terra+MX=Xehanort theories, so I thought I'd offer mine.

VAT's mission is to stop MX and his apprentice to get KH. Terra is appointed leader to this mission. Pretty much throughout all of BBS you will be trying to do this, and I think the ending will go something like this.

In a last battle between VAT and MX/DS, the battle draws to an end with Terra fighting MX. After a while, Terra realises that he can't beat MX, and Aqua and Ven can't help him (whether because of DS or something else). So Terra then fuses himself with MX, in an attempt to make MX less evil. Both MX and Terra's bodies combine, forming Xehanort. His (Xehanort's) memories become scrambled because he has two sets of memories, however he remembers key things that his two "makers" lives revolved around; the keyblade, and Kingdom Hearts.

This would explain why both Ansem SoD and Xemnas both go after KH. It also shows why both of them fear/worship the keyblade (SoD tried to take over Riku to get a keyblade wielder and Xemnas used Roxas to create a KH)

why does this remind me of DBZ...

Originally Posted by Rixam

welll.. I'm getting this dejavu feeling when I'm reading your theory... I have seen many theories ike this before.. i have to say that it can make sense, but what I don't get is the fact that both Terra and MX is keyblade wielders and why isn't Xehanort or any of his forms able to wield a keyblade?

im getting de ja vu also since all these theories are starting to sound the same...

Originally Posted by vault93

here's mine.. please don't laugh....

During the battle between terra and that spooky old guy ( MX), there was this realization inside terra that he was't destined to do this and that rather, he's supposed to do something else. Well, he defeated that spooky old guy but due to his realization of something, he inturn became the new Xehanort. Inheriting the old guy's name and giving up his own memories in order to pursue what he's destined to be without remorse.

As for Ven and Aqua.... They killed each other when rambo ate their sea salt ice creams.. as for rambo.. oh what the heck.

random...

Originally Posted by UrbanQuattrus

It most probably will be something none of us have thought of.

maybe xehanort DS without his helmet, only he lost his memories during that final battle somehow, VAT and MX are either somehow kiled/maybe absorbed by kh/or suspended in time...

The_Zero_Heart · 05-07-2008, 02:21 AM

Originally Posted by Xziled

why does this remind me of DBZ...

MX:Terra you ready?
Terra:Yes let's do it
Both:FUUUUUUU...SION HAH

*fancy light show*

Xehanort:I AM XEHANORT...but wat the hell am i doing here?

thank you Xziled for pointing that out

Last edited by The_Zero_Heart : 05-07-2008 at 02:24 AM. Reason: forgot the *gleam sparkle sparkle XD

Xziled · 05-07-2008, 02:24 AM

Originally Posted by The_Zero_Heart

MX:Terra you ready?
Terra:Yes let's do it
Both:FUUUUUUU...SION HAH

Xehanort:I AM XEHANORT...but wat the hell am i doing here?

thank you Xziled for pointing that out

i was talking bout more along the lines of how fat buu was made...

but yeah that works to...

The_Zero_Heart · 05-08-2008, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by Xziled

i was talking bout more along the lines of how fat buu was made...

but yeah that works to...

well if you go off by that then they woulda retained there memories since if you think of how fat buu came to be was just an absorbtion after another that retained all the memories of the previous bodies

but with that said it doesnt make sense that they lost the memories in the first place

Edit: i just thought of something...wat if it was not along the lines of how fat buu was created but of how uub came to be. i mean that 1 would make more sense since buu (kid) was destroyed and goku asked for him to be brought back as good resulting in uub. you can kinda think of it as a maybe in BBS that MX was destroyed (idk if he is just saying) and while being in KH he is remade but with all his memories wiped from him only remembering small tiny things like the name Xehanort and (this may be considered big) to study the heart. but thats just my thought on it so who knows i can be far off from wat is intended for the game

Last edited by The_Zero_Heart : 05-08-2008 at 08:55 AM. Reason: just thought of this

**HadesDragon** · 05-08-2008, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by Xziled

maybe xehanort DS without his helmet, only he lost his memories during that final battle somehow, VAT and MX are either somehow kiled/maybe absorbed by kh/or suspended in time...

Explain why Xehanort looks like both Terra and MX then.

Originally Posted by The_Zero_Heart

hmm that sounds reasonable adamus it sounds alot beeter than saying that MX and Terra combine.

i know KH to be a game to have some random ridiculous meanings to it...but to have 2 ppl combine...i mean i would understand the nobody and other coming back to make the whole but 2 different sources? thats just getting too ridiculous and kinda straying wouldn't you think?.

Xehanort's Heartless and Riku. They didn't merge appearances, but their case is different. Go play the games again.

Plus, there's a crapload of evidence pointing towards it, much more than you probably know of.

**gungonX** · 05-08-2008, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by The_Zero_Heart

Edit: i just thought of something...wat if it was not along the lines of how fat buu was created but of how uub came to be. i mean that 1 would make more sense since buu (kid) was destroyed and goku asked for him to be brought back as good resulting in uub. you can kinda think of it as a maybe in BBS that MX was destroyed (idk if he is just saying) and while being in KH he is remade but with all his memories wiped from him only remembering small tiny things like the name Xehanort and (this may be considered big) to study the heart. but thats just my thought on it so who knows i can be far off from wat is intended for the game

"OMG MX IZ TOTALI LIEK KID BUU Y DIDNT I FINK OV DAT B4!!?"

Simply no, don't compare the two.

Adamus · 05-08-2008, 07:12 PM

Xehanort doesn't entirely look like MX but some similarities between the two are impeccable.

For all we know, the DS could be the Xehanort we know, and for that purpose it could explain why he shares some similarities to MX. It would also explain the separation of MX and the DS signifying one and the same. If you think about, Xehanorts ambiguous studies on the heart can fulltell his relation to MX, with that of a like mind, and give reason to why DS would become an apprentice of MX in the first place. Not to mention his understanding of Kingdom Hearts.

He could have been amplified with a part of Terra, and not Terra himself. Xehanort seems to follow everything by memories upon studying them, and if he is the DS, its possible that after his loss of memories really he is just a being of memories put to life.

The chain of memories between MX and Terra are bound between the DS, and so Xehanort is born see what i mean

*He remembers the name Xehanort
*He come up with the heartless symbol which is quite compatible to the new ancient enemy symbol and the knights symbols
*He remember anger and hatred
*he pulled in Riku through the utilization of Darkness

the list goes on, and in thinking outside of the box, its possible that MX and Terra may not have fused physically, but mentally through DS. Sure theres the hair but he could have styled it that way, but then his heartless clothes, who knows he could have found an old dresser belonging to MX, or designed it through sheer memory.

Let's not forget that the real mystery character is DS, and the game revolves around the memories of Xehanort

Last edited by Adamus : 05-08-2008 at 07:20 PM.

**gungonX** · 05-08-2008, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by Adamus

Xehanort doesn't entirely look like MX but some similarities between the two are impeccable.

For all we know, the DS could be the Xehanort we know, and for that purpose it could explain why he shares some similarities to MX. It would also explain the separation of MX and the DS signifying one and the same. If you think about, Xehanorts ambiguous studies on the heart can fulltell his relation to MX, with that of a like mind, and give reason to why DS would become an apprentice of MX in the first place. Not to mention his understanding of Kingdom Hearts.

He could have been amplified with a part of Terra, and not Terra himself. Xehanort seems to follow everything by memories upon studying them, and if he is the DS, its possible that after his loss of memories really he is just a being of memories put to life.

Firstly, even though I seem quite happy with this possibility I don’t see it happening to be honest. The Xehanort we see within “Birth by Sleep” even though his characteristics and clothing are ideal, his abilities and physical appearance say other wise. What could cause such a change?

Originally Posted by Adamus

The chain of memories between MX and Terra are bound between the DS, and so Xehanort is born see what i mean

*He remembers the name Xehanort
*He come up with the heartless symbol which is quite compatible to the new ancient enemy symbol and the knights symbols
*He remember anger and hatred
*he pulled in Riku through the utilization of Darkness

What if the symbolism of the heartless is exists more beyond that of “Birth by Sleep”? What if the memories are link via the hearts and souls of the victims of the Keyblade war? Plausible?

Originally Posted by Adamus

the list goes on, and in thinking outside of the box, its possible that MX and Terra may not have fused physically, but mentally through DS. Sure theres the hair but he could have styled it that way, but then his heartless clothes, who knows he could have found an old dresser belonging to MX, or designed it through sheer memory.

Let's not forget that the real mystery character is DS, and the game revolves around the memories of Xehanort

But do we even know the Dark Soldier has the ability to do so beyond his fighting skills? Maybe he is an enigma just simply created to help abolish the light? Or he may very well be more intertwined?

Adamus · 05-09-2008, 03:42 AM

his abilities and physical appearance have nothing to do with DS. What im saying is that the DS takes after the studies of MX, as any apprentice would respond to his master. His memories would follow up to MX, after all he studied under him, and it would show upon his apprenticeship (if Xehanort weve known) with ATW. Afterall, ATW saw how ambitious he was with the studies of hearts, and his unnatural ability of an inhuman like mind driven to find an answer. This inevitably can explain exactly why MX would have him as an apprentice. A Master would want someone who is ambitious upon their studies you see what i mean? you see this connection here?

DS, and MX are one and the same.

if this small theory proves correct

Last edited by Adamus : 05-09-2008 at 03:57 AM.

**gungonX** · 05-09-2008, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by Adamus

his abilities and physical appearance have nothing to do with DS.

Last time I checked, these criteria did have something to do with war.

Originally Posted by Adamus

What im saying is that the DS takes after the studies of MX, as any apprentice would respond to his master. His memories would follow up to MX, after all he studied under him, and it would show upon his apprenticeship (if Xehanort weve known) with ATW.

And I'm not saying it is, but I'm referring it towards the link you assumed through the Terra.

Originally Posted by Adamus

Afterall, ATW saw how ambitious he was with the studies of hearts, and his unnatural ability of an inhuman like mind driven to find an answer. This inevitably can explain exactly why MX would have him as an apprentice. A Master would want someone who is ambitious upon their studies you see what i mean? you see this connection here?

DS, and MX are one and the same.

if this small theory proves correct

His role as his minor is quite reasonable to believe however, we can only assume that his role is merely a solider, for now, although his abilities are quite phenomenal for a solider?