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Old 06/24/08, 10:24 PM   #181
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The jumping point is the armor in the room of sleep. What does it do there?
This may be hint a relation of Xemnas and Aqua. Or, that Aqua is the 14th member. Ok, I know, this was already said a lot time lol.

Whats the purpose of this armor in the room. Just forget it, we cant know it, there are only speculations.

Some ppl says, Terra is Xemnas in the present, some ppl say Xemnas is the nobody of Terra.

This is crap.

You know, Xehanort turned into a heartless, when he was sinking into the darkness. At the same time, a nobody was born, Xemnas.

But who is Xehanort? If we do know that, it will explain us a lot. I dont really care about the 14th yet. I am just keen on Xehanort. But there is nothing to explain the status in the future.

Everybody forgot the past, but why?
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Old 06/24/08, 11:01 PM   #182
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The jumping point is the armor in the room of sleep. What does it do there?
This may be hint a relation of Xemnas and Aqua. Or, that Aqua is the 14th member. Ok, I know, this was already said a lot time lol.

Whats the purpose of this armor in the room. Just forget it, we cant know it, there are only speculations.

Some ppl says, Terra is Xemnas in the present, some ppl say Xemnas is the nobody of Terra.

This is crap.

You know, Xehanort turned into a heartless, when he was sinking into the darkness. At the same time, a nobody was born, Xemnas.

But who is Xehanort? If we do know that, it will explain us a lot. I dont really care about the 14th yet. I am just keen on Xehanort. But there is nothing to explain the status in the future.

Everybody forgot the past, but why?

Who is Xehanort is pretty much one of the biggest things everyone wants to know but for aqua even if she's not the 14th member I still feel like they have some type of connection, mostly beacue all of thses games are some connected to eachother.
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Old 06/25/08, 07:46 AM   #183
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Who is Xehanort is pretty much one of the biggest things everyone wants to know but for aqua even if she's not the 14th member I still feel like they have some type of connection, mostly beacue all of thses games are some connected to eachother.

For Aqua's and Xehanort's conection, I think they were the two keybladers that went to the darkside. I think that's how come they have matching armor.:closedeyes:
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Old 06/25/08, 07:48 AM   #184
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nobody thinks it might be terra?
it seem more like it would be him more than aqua
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Old 06/25/08, 08:21 AM   #185
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For Aqua's and Xehanort's conection, I think they were the two keybladers that went to the darkside. I think that's how come they have matching armor.:closedeyes:
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As I recall, Xehanort did not wear armor and certainly doesn't have a similar appeal to Aqua. If you're actually trying to refer Xehanort as Xemnas, don't; it'll just confuse people.

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Old 06/25/08, 09:43 AM   #186
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how does Roxas have a heart? he never once was mentioned to have one. he is a nobody.
you need a heart to wield a keyblade, and a strong at that. Roxas can wield two.

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As Joaxshu said,no one knows if he does have a heart but he is a special case and we can say that he does differ from other Nobodies and he has different sorts of feelings,making him a special sort of Nobody.

Is it possible that he is special Nobody because his Original Person,Sora,is a Keyblade Wielder?
if he's a special case with different kinds of feelings...seems like i'm not too far off by saying he has a heart somehow. and i emphasize somehow.
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Old 06/26/08, 05:29 AM   #187
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nobody thinks it might be terra?
it seem more like it would be him more than aqua
Are you saying that he went to the darkside along with Xehanort instead of Aqua?


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Que?

As I recall, Xehanort did not wear armor and certainly doesn't have a similar appeal to Aqua. If you're actually trying to refer Xehanort as Xemnas, don't; it'll just confuse people.

First of all, it's pretty clear I'm talking about Xehanort not Xemnas. If I was talking about Xemnas then I would have said Xemnas instead of Xehanort. Two, Xehanort probably wore armor before he got his memory wiped and was found by Ansem the Wise because from the secret ending of KH2 I got the impression that they all wore armor. If you look at Aqua's armor and then watch the video where Xemnas goes into the room with the armor in it you'll see that they look similar. So that's how come I'm saying that Aqua went to the darkside with Xehanort. Which possibly could mean that she is the 14th member of Organization 13.
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Old 06/26/08, 05:43 AM   #188
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I don't think that Aqua turned into a nobody though. According to what I heard of the story of the keybladers that there are two stayed on the lightside and two went to the darkside. The two who stayed on the light was probably Ven and Terra and the two who went to the darkside were probably Aqua (I think she went because her's and Xeanhort's armor match) and Xeanhort (well duh). Then one chaser came back to the light which was Aqua (if she was the one who went to the darkside) and Xeanhort stayed. So your theory pretty much disproves that Aqua is number 14. It would make the story very complicating if she turned into a nobody because could she come back? :huh: It's either what you heard is not true or some other girl is number 14, not Aqua.
Where'd you hear that? I've never heard such a story...:confused:
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you need a heart to wield a keyblade, and a strong at that. Roxas can wield two.
im sticking with my weapon theory. roxas is a nobody, not a person. nobodies are being not meant to exist, but only are a shell WITHOUT a heart. therefore, roxas would be without a heart. not to sound bias, but logically speaking, my weapon theory makes so much more sense. the only reason it might not be is because we are only given such little evidence.
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Old 06/26/08, 04:02 PM   #190
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Que?

As I recall, Xehanort did not wear armor and certainly doesn't have a similar appeal to Aqua. If you're actually trying to refer Xehanort as Xemnas, don't; it'll just confuse people.
I agree. I mean after all they are two different people but isn't Xenahort, a somebody form of Xemnas whereas Xemnas was the nobody form of Xenahort or is just confusing? Sorry if it for some of you! Just had to ask to make sure.

And I was wondering if there was anymore yet on the 14th member but I see, nothing really new came out. Oh well, I like hearing all the theories though.
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Old 06/27/08, 03:30 AM   #191
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idk but the way nomura is treating the XIV member, she seems not important.
maybe it is just me.
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Old 06/27/08, 03:43 AM   #192
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Seriously?

The way she is kept mysterious is more the reason to think she is important.

She did play a part in Roxas leaving the Org so that makes her important.
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Seriously?

The way she is kept mysterious is more the reason to think she is important.

She did play a part in Roxas leaving the Org so that makes her important.
That sums it up. But can you please provide evidence that she helps roxas leaves? {Sorry if i'm being rude}
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That sums it up. But can you please provide evidence that she helps roxas leaves? {Sorry if i'm being rude}
hmmm I think it was on a interview on the homepage. I read it on a diffrent theory and they said it was proven. If anybody has proof to that can you post it?
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im sticking with my weapon theory. roxas is a nobody, not a person. nobodies are being not meant to exist, but only are a shell WITHOUT a heart. therefore, roxas would be without a heart. not to sound bias, but logically speaking, my weapon theory makes so much more sense. the only reason it might not be is because we are only given such little evidence.
Ok I have a theory on Roxas here and some links that might help back me up on this. Ok theres this video that they showed scenes from Birth by sleep I think it was the tokyo game show.
Heres the vid :

ok if you go to 2:25 into the video it shows Ven talking to Terra and he says he wants to be erased. I think and I dont know how they would do it but its square so its a possibility here that, instead of terra erasing Ven he somehow (lets call ven a spirit k just go with this) took his spirit and implanted them into Sora when he was younger. At 1:40 in the video it shows Terra on Destiny Islands where he see's Riku and Sora playing with their wooden swords. That would clear up the whole who is really Roxas, because Roxas is really Ven. Also on KH2 there are certain people that mention they feel like Roxas has a heart, Axel for sure says that. On an added note Ven means wind and Sora means sky(keep that in mind). Now for something different we all saw that mysterious being inside the tree in KH1 right well when he controls Riku in Hollow Bastion (Radiant Garden). I think that being was Master Xehanort, when he is in control notice the suit that Riku has somewhat the same like that guy in the KH2FM ending right so theres something else to think about. One last thing Ansem on KH1 is Riku's Darkness meaning he was able to control it the whole time but since that being (Xehanort) took over he lost control over it. Thats why on KH2 he looked like him because that was his power no one elses.

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