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Old 05-03-2008, 08:32 PM   #31
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I think #14 is just a nobody. lol
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Old 05-03-2008, 08:35 PM   #32
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Well duh. Why would the Organization accept something other than a Nobody to join them. It doesn't make any sense.
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Old 05-03-2008, 08:49 PM   #33
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The only other heartess that retained human form was Xehanort thus throwing the 14th part out.

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1. I already explained that part.
2. It was Sora and Xehanort. Already addressed.
3. Pfft, slipping my ass. There was nothing I said that would contradict the statement you quoted.
4. I could REALLY be a jackass and throw a wrench in your post, but that'd screw me over in the future, so I won't. ^_^
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Old 05-03-2008, 11:57 PM   #34
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There is no way that the new member of Organization XIII could be anything but a Nobody. The entire Organization would sense that she isn't a Nobody, regardless of if she is a Human or a Heartless. Besides, how would she be significantly able to block her existing 'scent' and replace it with that of a Nobody well enough to avoid Zexion's ability to identify individuals and types of beings by their 'scent'.
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Old 05-04-2008, 12:05 AM   #35
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yeah and like said earlier, theres most likely a test you have to go through before they let you in
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4. I could REALLY be a jackass and throw a wrench in your post, but that'd screw me over in the future, so I won't. ^_^
whoa whoa whoa....pmf admitting her got screwed over-- wow didnt ever think that would happen lol

and i think number 14 is thought to be a nobody but she really isnt one
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What are you talking about?

1. I already explained that part.
2. It was Sora and Xehanort. Already addressed.
3. Pfft, slipping my ass. There was nothing I said that would contradict the statement you quoted.
4. I could REALLY be a jackass and throw a wrench in your post, but that'd screw me over in the future, so I won't. ^_^
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Old 05-04-2008, 05:46 AM   #38
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Why would they let a non-nobody join the Organization, when it's specific purpose was intended for nobodies. It'd make the Organization redundant, thus there being no need for them OR her.
So you're basically saying that we can confirm at our current level of information on her, that she is a nobody?

Sorry, but I don't think she really joined in the Organization by any "official" ways. As I said, the fact that she isn't mentioned by the Organization in later games makes it too suspicious.

What you're basically saying, is that there wouldn't have been any point to let her join the Organization if she wasn't a nobody, because it's not it's purpose, right?

I was pointing out the possibility, that she could have joined/let in for a special purpose, something about her that was essential for the plans of the Organization or Xemnas himself.

And I don't think that would necessarily require her to be a nobody.

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That wasn't one. Otherwise Roxas would still have been the XIVth.
Umm...care to explain? I'm not really getting your point.

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Old 05-04-2008, 05:48 AM   #39
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NO. She's not. One of the requirements for being in the Organization is being a nobody.



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Yes there is. Roxas. Had VIX been inducted first, she would have been XIII instead of XIV...Did you even realize what you said?



Nothing is a biased term. Nobodies aren't nothing. They just non-exist...
Nothin is not a biased term. Well, it probably is but whatever. Pretty sure I've heard one line from one of the Org. members saying they're nothing.

Besides, if something doesn't exist, it is reffered to as nothing.

Yet I believe there is no such thing as nothing.

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Old 05-04-2008, 06:25 AM   #40
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What are you talking about?

1. I already explained that part.
2. It was Sora and Xehanort. Already addressed.
3. Pfft, slipping my ass. There was nothing I said that would contradict the statement you quoted.
4. I could REALLY be a jackass and throw a wrench in your post, but that'd screw me over in the future, so I won't. ^_^
Hmmmm....I was confused for the moment seeing as bittermeats addressed Xehanorts heartless as Ansem which can be quite confusing after playing KH2.
Anywayz, I can dodge a dodgeball, what makes you think i cant dodge a wrench
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Old 05-04-2008, 11:08 AM   #41
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So you're basically saying that we can confirm at our current level of information on her, that she is a nobody?
Yes. There are some things that you just can without proof.

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Sorry, but I don't think she really joined in the Organization by any "official" ways. As I said, the fact that she isn't mentioned by the Organization in later games makes it too suspicious.
Because her character hadn't been thought of at the time. It was only until Nomura decided to give Roxas his own game that the character was decided upon.

I don't think she joined by any "unorthodoxl" ways either.

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What you're basically saying, is that there wouldn't have been any point to let her join the Organization if she wasn't a nobody, because it's not it's purpose, right?
Yes. The objective for the Organization was to get Kingdom Hearts and become whole again. Nobodies don't like heartless, and humans would only get in their way.

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I was pointing out the possibility, that she could have joined/let in for a special purpose, something about her that was essential for the plans of the Organization or Xemnas himself.
Before we get into this, are you implying she's Aqua?

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And I don't think that would necessarily require her to be a nobody.
She'd only slow them down.

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Umm...care to explain? I'm not really getting your point.
You said that she could have joined before Roxas. I said that that would make HER XIII and Roxas XIV.

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It's because I do my homework. I sit back and say something, 8 months later Square confirms it. I can't completely do that with BBS though. Nomura's being very careful.

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Nothin is not a biased term. Well, it probably is but whatever. Pretty sure I've heard one line from one of the Org. members saying they're nothing.
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Besides, if something doesn't exist, it is reffered to as nothing.
In which terms are we talking now KH or real life?

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Hmmmm....I was confused for the moment seeing as bittermeats addressed Xehanorts heartless as Ansem which can be quite confusing after playing KH2.
Anywayz, I can dodge a dodgeball, what makes you think i cant dodge a wrench
Because I stole the wrench from Dark Cloud 2. Anything in that game has an elemental explosion, and it's not small. Dodge an elemental explosion.
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Old 05-04-2008, 11:29 AM   #42
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Before we get into this, are you implying she's Aqua?
Beside the fact, that I think it is very likely, no, actually I wasn't really.

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That depends on the purpose she served, imo.

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You said that she could have joined before Roxas. I said that that would make HER XIII and Roxas XIV.
Oh, okay.
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Old 05-04-2008, 12:10 PM   #43
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That depends on the purpose she served, imo.
I don't claim to know the extent of Xemnas' powers, but it is possible for him to make her think she is a nnobody, when she's only there for his personal gain.

Besides the fact that she's be attacked by heartless relentlessly, the nobodies would be all over her as well.
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Old 05-04-2008, 12:52 PM   #44
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I don't claim to know the extent of Xemnas' powers, but it is possible for him to make her think she is a nnobody, when she's only there for his personal gain.
That's a possibility.

As I tried to say, even if she didn't serve that much of a purpose for the Organization, she might have served one for Xemnas' plans, which is why, as the Superior of the Organization, he might have let her in under special circumstances.

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Besides the fact that she's be attacked by heartless relentlessly, the nobodies would be all over her as well.
Well, not necessarily if she would have been protected from that by the rest of the Organization. The members command the lesser types of nobodies, if I recall correctly.
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You now what this thread is bogus. I'm mot even gonna bother coming back here. DarkCreature 2 signing off.
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