VEN ROXAS THEORY

[Kairy]

ok we all kno roxas is born when sora kind a kills himself with rikus keyblade which unlocks hearts ok and we kno that namine was made from soras body and soul but kairis heart- so the point im making is that roxas could have been made from vens body and soul but from soras heart because part of ven we know is somehow in sora -- I DONT KNO HOW- now i think this becuse when sora unlocks his heart he uses rikus keyblade which we all know unlocks hearts but since soras body and soul was used for namine-- vens body and soul was needed for roxas- but now that im thinking i think roxas may have had vens memories which is wierd since he was made from soras heart but then again he may not have but im really thinkin he did- i dont kno- but anybody got sumtin to add???- and I know people have all ready thought of this but you know what i wanted to start a thread and i was bored ok

[Anima Relic]

Originally Posted by Kairy

roxas could have been made from vens body and soul but from soras heart

Sorry, but that is impossible, Sora's body and soul made Roxas, Sora was only an existence of the heart, until Roxas "rejoined" with him.

Originally Posted by Kairy

because part of ven we know is somehow in sora

No, we don't know, BBS isn't out yet, try again.

Originally Posted by Kairy

-- I DONT KNO HOW-

That's why I'll save you before someone like PMF comes along and completely rapes your theory with waffles , at least I'll try to let you down nicely.

Originally Posted by Kairy

vens body and soul was needed for roxas-

Read my first post

[Kairy]

anima relic didnt we have talk about lighining up dammit lol and its a theory and yes ven is somehow connected w roxas which makes him connected with sora so he has to be in sora somehow because ven is somehow related with roxas and SORAS BODY AND SOUL WAS USED FOR NAMINE ok

[madammina]

It's has a few holes. (We need BBS) This has been said thousands of times, but somehow was Ven was fused with Sora. Then your idea would work, I think (Hides in advance of Anima of PMF coming along)

[Kairy]

lol ok you know what i wanted to post a thought ok and i cant wait for bbs ARGGHHH!

[Anima Relic]

Originally Posted by Kairy

anima relic didnt we have talk about lighining up dammit lol and its a theory and yes ven is somehow connected w roxas which makes him connected with sora so he has to be in sora somehow because ven is somehow related with roxas and SORAS BODY AND SOUL WAS USED FOR NAMINE ok

I want to use the 1,2,3, thing so badly, but as I've stated, I'll TRY to let you down nicely.

I never said Ven wasn't connected to Roxas or Sora. No, just because they are connected doesn't mean a piece of Ven is inside Sora or Roxas. Roxas only looks like Ven, Nomura clearly stated that they are different people, and we'd be able to separate them with ease. Sora's body and soul was used for Roxas as well as Namine, O. K? It's just like how Riku's Soul Eater "transformed" into Kairi's keyblade, but Riku's Soul Eater had already transformed into the Way to Dawn, Nomura said there was a deeper meaning there, but didn't explain.

@Madamimmi

Why would a teenager or older boy fuse with a four year old kid? Read that sentence and think about how much sense that would make. BTW, you can't fuse whole being with whole being, and you can't use MX and DS as an example, because we don't know what DS is in the first place, he may not even be a whole being.

[Kairy]

ok but how can soras body and soul be used for two nobodies oh and nomura stated that there is a reason why ven looks like roxas AND it was never stated that roxas was made with soras body and soul

[Anima Relic]

Originally Posted by Kairy

ok but how can soras body and soul be used for two nobodies

Easy, Sora gots enough to go around. ROFL

Originally Posted by Kairy

oh and nomura stated that there is a reason why ven looks like roxas AND it was never stated that roxas was made with soras body and soul

Nomura stated that Ven and Roxas were different people as well. As for your second comment, either you've never played KH2, or you are on that hydroxy cut, stop while you think you are ahead...oops supposed to be nice, but you really deserved it for your last comment Roxas was made using Sora's body and soul, it's in the secret ansem reports, and it was confirmed by Nomura, what more do ya want?

[Kairy]

um what ansem reports are you talkin about no it was never stated in the secret ansem reports it just talked about how roxas was born and it said that roxas was soras nobody oh and when did nomura say that soras body and soul made roxas and I KNOW ROXAS AND VEN ARE DIFFERENT PEOPLE

[madammina]

I have to go against you on this one Kairy. It did say in one of the Ansem Reports about how both Roxas and Namine were born from Sora's body.

[Kairy]

no madammina lol ok it doesnt say that roxas was made with sorad body and soul but yeah it does talk about how roxas and namine were born but now im confused because in the ansem report it said namine was created when kairis heart was put into sora and then it says namine was created with soras body and soul and when kairi heart left soras

[madammina]

Secret Ansem Reports - Kingdom Hearts Wiki - A world of information not accessible by Gummiship Emphasis is mine.



Report 12

Apart from Naminé, Nobodies retain their memories of their time as humans, but Sora's Nobody, Roxas, has lost Sora's memories.

This is likely because Sora's time as a Heartless was short, having recovered his heart and returned to his human form soon after leaving behind Roxas, his Nobody.

It would seem Roxas is much like Naminé. Naminé is Kairi's Nobody, but came into being via Sora's body and soul.

Likewise, Roxas is Sora's Nobody, but was left behind because Sora's Heartless regained human form using Kairi's heart instead of his own.

It may be that Sora's memories are slow to return because the half of him that Roxas is still lacking.

I must convert Roxas into data and return him to Sora.

As a member of Organization XIII, it was exceedingly difficult to bring Roxas in. Having lost to Roxas once, Riku laid everything on the line and used the power of darkness in their second battle, only just managing to bring Roxas back with him.

But Organization XIII grows ever nearer. Here, Twilight Town, is where Roxas was reborn as a Nobody.

This is where Roxas first encountered Organization XIII and joined its ranks. They are bound to search this place throughly.

First I shall convert all of Twilight Town into data and construct a "world duplicate" in Sora's memories. I shall place Roxas within that world to live out his days and regain those memories.

There is little time.

The Organization's schemes must be making steady progress as well.

[Xziled]

Originally Posted by Kairy

um what ansem reports are you talkin about no it was never stated in the secret ansem reports it just talked about how roxas was born and it said that roxas was soras nobody oh and when did nomura say that soras body and soul made roxas and I KNOW ROXAS AND VEN ARE DIFFERENT PEOPLE

*urge to flame increasing*
it is stated in the ansem reports unless you never took the time to read them while playing kh2 and why would sora have 2 bodies just becuz he produced 2 nobodies, even atw states that namine is an anomy(maybe a plot hole) that he couldnt figure out but only speculate

[Kairy]

Naminé is Kairi's Nobody, but came into being via Sora's body and soul it never said if roxas is from soras body and soul but it said that he is his nobody because he comes from soras heart! dammit

and madammina the part you highlighted that just explains that roxas needs to come together with sora so his memories could regain faster and that is just saying that roxas is soras nobody!

[Anima Relic]

This thread is getting very retarded, if you know what a nobody is, which is a body and soul, then you'd know that Sora produced two nobodies, each has his body and soul, why ya think they are called, SPECIAL NOBODIES.