VEN ROXAS THEORY

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I shall now show you how your entire theory fails with one point.

If Ven's heart were also in Sora's body, then 3 Nobodies would have been created, but only 2 were. Bam, shown.

Also, some punctuation and more then one sentence would help it be easier to read.

[Blight]

I think that vens heart was in sora's body. (it possible because kairi's heart was in sora's body who's to say that Ven couldn't have been in it too). when sora heart left, sora's body to the shape of Ven but because sora soul was in him he still had sora's memory. (since heartless sora look the shape of sora with just his heart and kairi's help, Who to say sora body could to the same thanks to ven heart and "insert unexplained force here." Yes it's speculation but it is all possible if ven heart was in sora.

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Originally Posted by Blight

I think that vens heart was in sora's body. (it possible because kairi's heart was in sora's body who's to say that Ven couldn't have been in it too). when sora heart left, sora's body to the shape of Ven but because sora soul was in him he still had sora's memory. (since heartless sora look the shape of sora with just his heart and kairi's help, Who to say sora body could to the same thanks to ven heart and "insert unexplained force here." Yes it's speculation but it is all possible if ven heart was in sora.

Then why wasn't a third Nobody created, from Sora's heart? Also, didn't Nomura say Ven=/=Roxas? (Does not equal)

[TrueRoxas527]

What happened with Ven is the question... we know he's from Destiny Islands... And Kairi moved in when she was extrememly young. Would that meteor shower and Kairi have any effect with Ven? Then she took his heart somehow?
When Kairi's heart was inside Sora, the hearts mended and Ven's heart was transported inside Sora's from Kairi's.
Then, when the 2 hearts were released, (Ven's was inside Sora's) only 2 Nobodies were formed and Roxas looks like Ven because it was Ven's heart. But he remembers Sora, because Sora's heart was like a protection!

I'm not saying this is right, it just popped into my head.

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Originally Posted by TrueRoxas527

What happened with Ven is the question... we know he's from Destiny Islands... And Kairi moved in when she was extrememly young. Would that meteor shower and Kairi have any effect with Ven? Then she took his heart somehow?
When Kairi's heart was inside Sora, the hearts mended and Ven's heart was transported inside Sora's from Kairi's.
Then, when the 2 hearts were released, (Ven's was inside Sora's) only 2 Nobodies were formed and Roxas looks like Ven because it was Ven's heart. But he remembers Sora, because Sora's heart was like a protection!

I'm not saying this is right, it just popped into my head.

Once again, why didn't a Nobody get created for Sora's heart as well? You guess really don't seem to get his concept, do you?

[TrueRoxas527]

Maybe because Ven's and Sora's hearts were merged together which only formed Roxas.

[PostMentalFerocity]

Originally Posted by Kairy

pmf your a pile of living failure

[Iori laugh] Ke he he he HA HA HA HA HAA

im glad to add that AND you dont know if roxas had memories

Roxas asked for Xemnas' name so does that mean that scene shows him meeting Xemnas for the first time and that's when he joined the Organization?

Not really. It's true that he had a conversation with Xemnas at that beach before but that's not their first meeting and their conversation wasn't like that either. The conversation at the beginning of the game was Roxas' dream, mixed with his memories and feelings. The part where he asked for Xemnas' name but instead was asked back for his real name was a reflection of Roxas' feelings on who really is. Roxas didn't know his real name, remember? If he remembered that he was Sora, I think he wouldn't join the Organization in the first place.

So Nomura confirmed that Roxas had no memories of Sora. I think I shall continue. You're just begging for a PMF asswhuupin'

AND you dont know if roxas was made with vens body and soul because they never said it

Are you slow or just plain stupid? Roxas is Sora's nobody. Of which was made with his body and soul. This is said in game. Not only that, but it's said in the Secret Ansem Reports that he was left behind in the darkness when Sora regained his human form. Also, why would Roxas rejoin with Sora if he wasn't his nobody?

Question for you. Where was Ven's body and Soul? There can't be two bodies occuping one space. So why did Ven's body and soul reappear 11 years after it disappeared only to be countered by Nomura? For it to be Ven's body and Soul would make it Ven's nobody. And last I checked, Ven and Roxas were two separate people, this is also said by Nomura. He addressed them as separate people.

AND roxas is soras nobody because he was made from soras heart just like namine which is made from SORAS BODY AND SOUL but was made from kairis heart so therefore shes kairis nobody.

First of all, where do you get your info?

Namine was created using Kairi's heart, Sora's heartless, and his body & soul. Sora's body and soul was turned into Roxas.

but i dont think ven was in soras heart i think he was connected to rikus keyblade

That would mean Ven is a princess of heart. So uh... no.

@somnus- you are wrong roxas was created when sora stabbed himself with rikus keyblade

Yes, and his body & soul created Roxas and Namine. Two hearts used the same body & soul. This is more believable than 2 bodies occuping a space.

no im flamin him because he needs to get his head out of his a**

And you need to get your mouth off my nuts.

yeah i did didnt you read what i said? and he didnt give much proof when he was flamin he just repeated the same sh** that he usually comes up with

Same stuff? How would you know what I usually post? This is our first time interacting with each other? Unless you're on a double account, you wouldn't know what I post. As well as that, I expected you to not be kind of an idiot. But read the post again. There's your proof. Now, like I said, stop ridin' me so hard.

[Kairy]

I KNOW ROXAS IS SORAS NOBODY but his body and soul could have been made from ven's just like namine who is kairis nobody but was made from soras body and soul. and I know ven and roxas are two seperate people but nomura has stated there is a CONNECTION between them. OH and it has been stated that roxas and namine are different from other nobodies meaning that they are more than someones body and soul.

[PostMentalFerocity]

Originally Posted by Kairy

I KNOW ROXAS IS SORAS NOBODY

Apparently not.

but his body and soul could have been made from ven's just like namine who is kairis nobody but was made from soras body and soul.

You never answered my question. Where was Ven's body and soul the whole time?

and I know ven and roxas are two seperate people but nomura has stated there is a CONNECTION between them.

So, GEU from Deep Dive and Sora were connected. Apparently you can't use a Keyblade if you have darkness in your heart, which you know, goes against the first three games.

Nomura is full of shit. He says this, he says that. He said that Namine and Kairi weren't connected....

So, who was she in KH2?

OH and it has been stated that roxas and namine are different from other nobodies meaning that they are more than someones body and soul.

Yes, say "Ling Ling" once more.

SAY. MY. NAME.

Namine, I've been waiting for someone to get on that subject for a long time. Specifically waiting for one person to strike that match.

Namine is a nobody, in the truest sense of the word. She has no identity, she wasn't formed from a body and soul.

Originally Posted by Secret Ansem Report IX

That is to say, in the case of the Nobody called Namine, both a Heartless as evidence of a lost heart, and a body to act as the intermediary for the creation
of a Nobody are missing. [PMF NOTE: Theory DENIED] She is an extremely unstable existence, and therefore
has no memories of Kairi.

Missing the heart and body and soul needed to make a nobody... If the body and soul didn't go to Namine, where could they have gone? Roxas perhaps?

Oh the pwnage feels so good. On some real Sleazy Train type stuff.

[Kairy]

You never answered my question. Where was Ven's body and soul the whole time? it could have been in sora or connected to rikus keyblade. I dont know but you dont either we dont have that much info yet. as i said im just speculating do you know what that means?

So, GEU from Deep Dive and Sora were connected. Apparently you can't use a Keyblade if you have darkness in your heart, which you know, goes against the first three games.

Nomura is full of shit. He says this, he says that. He said that Namine and Kairi weren't connected....

maybe he was trying to through off fans but now if you say nomura is full of shit then wow

Namine is a nobody, in the truest sense of the word. She has no identity, she wasn't formed from a body and soul. What? she was formed from soras body and soul it has been stated.


Missing the heart and body and soul needed to make a nobody... If the body and soul didn't go to Namine, where could they have gone? Roxas perhaps? The body and soul went to namine but now your kind of contradicting youself because before you said that sora's body and soul created both namine and roxas and now its just roxas? what?

@anima relic-
i don't give up sry

[PostMentalFerocity]

Originally Posted by Kairy

ok we all kno roxas is born when sora kind a kills himself with rikus keyblade which unlocks hearts ok and we kno that namine was made from soras body and soul but kairis heart- so the point im making is that roxas could have been made from vens body and soul

Roxas was made from Sora's body and soul.

but from soras heart because part of ven we know is somehow in sora

Unexplained. How? Unless you got anything to back it up, it's inadmissible.

[quote]--I DONT KNO HOW--

Then it fails.

now i think this becuse when sora unlocks his heart he uses rikus keyblade which we all know unlocks hearts but since soras body and soul was used for namine-- vens body and soul was needed for roxas-

Roxas was formed from Sora's body and soul.

but now that im thinking i think roxas may have had vens memories which is wierd since he was made from soras heart but then again he may not have but im really thinkin he did

And that would go how?

- i dont kno-

I figured as much.

I just had to redo this. Now, on to the most recent...

it could have been in sora

Ven's body...inside of Sora's body...

Aside form that being pedophilia, Ven is bigger than Sora. How would his body fit inside Sora's? I hope VAT doesn't come in here. She's have a field day with the pedoness in here.

or connected to rikus keyblade.

That would make Ven a princess of heart

I dont know but you dont either

Providing that there was info to know, I cannot conclude that I do or do not have info to divulge, were I to be in a divulgatory mood. Seeing as how I may or may not know info, I cannot truthfully respond to that in a manner of which would allow me to be in a position to divulge info; were there info to be divulged.

we dont have that much info yet. as i said im just speculating do you know what that means?

lol. Speculation? If you're just speculating, you shouldn't be so upset when someone calls your theory into question.

maybe he was trying to through off fans but now if you say nomura is full of shit then wow

I'm saying that if nomura confirmed it is your only defense, then you'd best correct yourself. He will retcon anything in a minute. He did, like 2 weeks ago anyway.

What? she was formed from soras body and soul it has been stated.

Yet, the Secret Ansem Report disproved it. Like I said, this stuff was in game.

The body and soul went to namine but now your kind of contradicting youself because before you said that sora's body and soul created both namine and roxas and now its just roxas?

No, I was off a bit, but I wasn't completely wrong. Well since you missed it, I'll re post it:

Originally Posted by Secret Ansem Report IX
That is to say, in the case of the Nobody called Namine, both a Heartless as evidence of a lost heart, and a body to act as the intermediary for the creation of a Nobody are missing. [PMF NOTE: Theory DENIED] She is an extremely unstable existence, and therefore has no memories of Kairi.

This is in the game, therefore your theory fails. I win.

Look here. That info posted above is offical canon. Meaning that it is unrevokable, unless by Nomura himself; which he has a tendency to do; thus why I say that he's full of shit. So you can try to deny it, but your theory has been disproved by the game itself.

What now?
~

AR, I negative repped her. Don't believe me? Kairy, check your user cp. It'll show I did it.

[Kairy]

Roxas was made from Sora's body and soul.
we only know roxas was made from soras heart thats why he is his nobody

Roxas was formed from Sora's body and soul.
this again has never been stated



Ven's body...inside of Sora's body...

Aside form that being pedophilia, Ven is bigger than Sora. How would his body fit inside Sora's? I hope VAT doesn't come in here. She's have a field day with the pedoness in here. ok i never said if vens body is inside of soras body i just said part of him being his heart or sould could have been in there



Providing that there was info to know, I cannot conclude that I do or do not have info to divulge, were I to be in a divulgatory mood. Seeing as how I may or may not know info, I cannot truthfully respond to that in a manner of which would allow me to be in a position to divulge info; were there info to be divulged.so basically your saying you dont know anything so therfore you cant really say anything against my theory.. i win!



lol. Speculation? If you're just speculating, you shouldn't be so upset when someone calls your theory into question.
yea but you were acting like an a***** thats different


[i]AR, I negative repped her. Don't believe me? Kairy, check your user cp. It'll show I did it. yeah and i dont give a shit i could always make another account

Secret Ansem Report 9
That is to say, in the case of the Nobody called Namine, both a Heartless as evidence of a lost heart, and a body to act as the intermediary for the creation of a Nobody are missing. She is an extremely unstable existence, and therefore has no memories of Kairi.

this doesnt prove anything sry

but this does!!!! secret ansem report 10
believer that Namine’ was born as a special type of Nobody when Sora attacked himself with the Keyblade, causing his and Kairi’s hearts to leave their bodies simultaneously. Namine’ emerged as Kairi’s Nobody… but the body and soul necessary to exist as a Nobody belonged to Sora.

@ anima relic sry forgot to put secret in front of ansem report

[Anima Relic]

Actually, the Ansem's reports never mentioned Namine, only the Secret Ansem Reports have.

[J>J>C]

I read over all of that, and your theory makes some since to me; But I still kind of don't understand the relation between Namine, and Kairi. Is Namine Kairi's nobody? or is she Sora's?

[Kairy]

thank you! ok and to answer your question namine is kairis nobody because she is made from kairis hearts but shes made with soras body and soul which adds to my theory because it proves that roxas is still soras nobody being made from his heart but he can be made from someones else body and soul and too aadd to that since roxas was born when sora stab himself -- sora still had his body and souland wasnt a full heartless....connection??