VEN ROXAS THEORY

[Kairy]

but it no where did it state that soras body and soul made roxas, it just said that roxas is soras nobody because he was made with soras heart just like namine was kairis nobody because she was made with kairis heart

[madammina]

Originally Posted by Kairy

and madammina the part you highlighted that just explains that roxas needs to come together with sora so his memories could regain faster and that is just saying that roxas is soras nobody!

Doesn't that just prove what I was saying.

[Kairy]

yes but what im saying it doesnt prove what im trying to say

[Xziled]

do you even know the definition of nobody in kh?

nobody:the body and soul left by a strong hearted person loses their heart

hence roxas is soras body and soul not vens

[Kairy]

yes but soras body and soul was given to namine when he became a heartless it never said anything if roxas body and soul were from sora but since roxas was born from sora's heart thats his nobody

and to add to that roxas was born when sora stabbed himself with rikus keyblade which kind of proves the fact that his body and soul didnt leave him yet which of course makes roxas a very wierd nobody

wait hold up just thought of sumtin maybe thats how roxas is connected to ven maybe it was that keyblade

[Somnus]

and to add to that roxas was born when sora stabbed himself with rikus keyblade which kind of proves the fact that his body and soul didnt leave him yet which of course makes roxas a very wierd nobody

No.....


Roxas was born when Sora's heart turned into a heartless. Sora releasing his heart was the cause, Sora turning into a heartless was the effect. When a heart turned into a heartless, the soul and body becomes a Nobody.

wait hold up just thought of sumtin maybe thats how roxas is connected to ven maybe it was that keyblade

Repeating, Roxas is Sora's nobody. If there is a connection, it would have to be Sora and Ven, not Roxas.

[bittermeat]

This is slightly unrelated, but since you mentioned Riku's keyblade, I had a thought.

Maybe Ven is somehow connected to it, and when Sora stabbed himself with it, it altered Roxas's appearance. It's a little out there, but maybe? I don't remember much about it, was it made up of the seven Princesses of Heart's hearts? Since its a key that 'unlocks' hearts, when Sora stabbed himself it could have freed Ven from within the keyblade. Somehow. I'm just throwing the idea out there.

[Karate]

Originally Posted by Kairy

so the point im making is that roxas could have been made from vens body and soul but from soras heart because part of ven we know is somehow in sora

1. There is nothing of Ven's inside of Sora.
2. Sora's body and soul are his.
3. Roxas was made from Sora's body and soul
4. You don't know anything.

-- I DONT KNO HOW- now i think this becuse when sora unlocks his heart he uses rikus keyblade which we all know unlocks hearts but since soras body and soul was used for namine-- vens body and soul was needed for roxas

Okay, so I have a question...

Where the f--k was it? Not only that, but why was it following Sora aroud until the very moment he lost his heart?

- but now that im thinking i think roxas may have had vens memories which is wierd since he was made from soras heart but then again he may not have but im really thinkin he did- i dont kno- but anybody got sumtin to add???

That you're an idiot? I'll gladly add that. Roxas had NO memories. In any case, he'd have Sora's memories, not Ven's.

- and I know people have all ready thought of this but you know what i wanted to start a thread and i was bored ok

No, I'll give you that. NO one els thought of it; that's because they have sense. If Roxas was made from Ven's body and soul, that'd make him Ven's nobody. Which ultimately couldn't happen, because when Ven lost his heart, no heartless existed. Also Roxas' name wouldn't be Roxas, it'd be VEN anagramized with X. On top of that, he'd have Ven's memories.


And THAT Kairy, is why your theory is a pile of living failure.

[khlover22]

Originally Posted by Anima Relic

Sorry, but that is impossible, Sora's body and soul made Roxas, Sora was only an existence of the heart, until Roxas "rejoined" with him.



No, we don't know, BBS isn't out yet, try again.




That's why I'll save you before someone like PMF comes along and completely rapes your theory with waffles :laugh:, at least I'll try to let you down nicely.




Read my first post

could also be that because sora was heartless for a few minutes that the body was like for a computer ( i kno but i dont know the right word for it) data coruppted so the soul needed to find another body

[Kairy]

pmf your a pile of living failure im glad to add that AND you dont know if roxas had memories AND you dont know if roxas was made with vens body and soul because they never said it AND roxas is soras nobody because he was made from soras heart just like namine which is made from SORAS BODY AND SOUL but was made from kairis heart so therefore shes kairis nobody. but i dont think ven was in soras heart i think he was connected to rikus keyblade

@somnus- you are wrong roxas was created when sora stabbed himself with rikus keyblade

[SuperNova]

Originally Posted by Kairy

ok we all kno roxas is born when sora kind a kills himself with rikus keyblade which unlocks hearts ok and we kno that namine was made from soras body and soul but kairis heart- so the point im making is that roxas could have been made from vens body and soul but from soras heart because part of ven we know is somehow in sora -- I DONT KNO HOW- now i think this becuse when sora unlocks his heart he uses rikus keyblade which we all know unlocks hearts but since soras body and soul was used for namine-- vens body and soul was needed for roxas- but now that im thinking i think roxas may have had vens memories which is wierd since he was made from soras heart but then again he may not have but im really thinkin he did- i dont kno- but anybody got sumtin to add???- and I know people have all ready thought of this but you know what i wanted to start a thread and i was bored ok

riku's blade?

or the dark keyblade used by ansem?

ahhh,i get your theory.

since namine,born from kairi's heart,and sora's body.

then roxas is born from sora's heart,ven's soul.

roxas possibly got ven's memories,but,has forgot them somehow,and since "merged" with sora,sora may remember the memories.

[Kairy]

M.o.N thank you finally someone understands and look your only eleven lol

[Somnus]

But it's not fact. A soul does not form a body. It inhabits one aka Nobody. The only memories Sora remember thus far is the events of Chain of Memories and his promise to Namine. There is no proof what-so-ever that says Ven is within Sora. Don't bother mentioning Roxas because there are other strong possibilities

Numora said it himself that Roxas and Ven are two different people.

[Kairy]

yea i know roxas and ven are two different people and I dont think anymore that ven is in sora i think hes connected to rikus keyblade but even if there isnt proof im still just speculating

[Somnus]

The Keyblade is compose of the hearts of the princesses. It's a instrument to unlock a person's heart, more specifically, to the darkness. Sora used it on himself and was exploited to the darkness thus turning into a heartless. Roxas was born from his left-over soul and body. Yes, the keyblade exploited Sora to the darkness. No it has nothing to do with Roxas. If Sora were to remain as a heartless then Roxas would remember himself being Sora. But you know what happened.