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Old 04/14/08, 08:09 AM   #1
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Default My input to the MX/Terra/Xenohart mystery

Okay, i know what ur all gonna say: We wont know till the game comes out etc, etc, etc. But i just thought of something while thinking about a fanfic im working on, and decided i should share it with you all, even if its just a stupid idea.

Maybe, in the end of the game (BBS) after the battle we already seen, MX or Terra begins to become a Heartless/Nobody, like their heart/body are being torn apart. But he (whichever it is) grabs onto the other and somehow takes out the heart/body of the other.

thus the two merge into two seperate beings: rather than creating a heartless or a nobody, the result is MX's body with Terra's heart, and vice versa. This may explain as to why Xenohart (the young one) resembles Terra, and MX.
Although this would mean that if Xenohart is MX's heart with Terra's body, there would have to be the 'vice versa', which could or could not be the E.S. (just throwing out ideas now)

anyway... give me thoughts. Even if it doesnt make sense or isnt possible.. I mean.. Its a cool idea. Itll likely find its way into my Fic, once i get started...
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Old 04/14/08, 08:27 AM   #2
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good theory,maybe it will explain why xemnas looks like terra,anyways,nice,but can you give out a little bit more info?
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Old 04/14/08, 08:43 AM   #3
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Default Re: My input to the MX/Terra/Xenohart mystery

thanks
more info eh? uuhh.. well... ill try thinking of more to it, and if anyone else has any ideas or suggestions feel free to stick em in.
I think at this point its pretty much impossible to say what is/isn't possible in the game, apart from something like Terra is actually Axel, and Aqua is actually Riku

then again...
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Old 04/14/08, 08:46 AM   #4
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lol,

hmmm,maybe mx and terra fused creates a gigantic explosion,and the heartless and nobody begin.
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Old 04/14/08, 08:52 AM   #5
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well. as said by the ansem reports, the first heartless was made by Xenohart when he begun experimenting on the heart and his subject's heart collapsed, so he left the bodies of these people under the castle of Radient Garden. When he decided to check on them later, a heartless greeted him.
The first documented case of a heartless begin created. Im guessing at the same time the first nobody was formed. Maybe there is more to these 'subjects' that he was first experimenting on, im pretty sure he experimented on the townsfolk of RG so... i dunno, maybe theres something hidden there.

but like said above, this is the first documented case of a heartless appearing, it doesn't nessecarily mean it is actually the first case. Although others are sure to tell me otherwise
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well,if heartless were made then, nobodies also.

anything could've happened in there creation.
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Hmm... i like this theory, but yes, it was lacking a bit of something mate...
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Old 04/14/08, 10:09 AM   #8
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uh okay, maybe some more ideas then.
So Young Xenohart (YX) is actually Terra's body with MX's heart. Due to the unique way that he was formed, he looses all of his memory, or, because the heart isn't neccesarily his the body doesn't accept/recognise them or something (like how Sora only saw a few, if not one, of Kairi's memories, despite being a close friend and having her heart within himself).
He is found by Ansem the Wise, and etc.
As he begins to delve into the mysteries of the heart, the dark urges (of MX) begin to take over and he starts doing wicked things, eventually leading him to turn against Ansem and banishing him to another dimension. And so on.. Until he decides to cast his body away.
Now, because he chooses to cast it away, his heart is not lost into the darkness, but accepts it and grows within it. Now a mix of the MX and YX, he still doesn't recall his memories, hence why when he takes Riku's body, he takes up YX's form, rather than MX. Also... its probably much faster and stronger.
Anyway...
As he casts his heart away, Xemnas is formed. Xemnas however, as seen in some scenes of KHII:FM+, seems to have at least some idea of his past. Now, with some of MX's urgings pushing him onward (as most of them went with 'Ansem'), and an inability to feel, he searches for his heart again to be reborn as Terra, as he is Terra's body, only without his Heart. Maybe the idea of him creating a new world was actually one of peace. Without heartless, or nobodies, or darkness.

Although, this would ofcause still leave the question of the MXbody/Terraheart being, who is probably in hiding or plotting against YX or something. I dunno... More on this another day i guess...
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good theory.

that made a lot of sense.

xemnas having terra's side,yes,i thought of that,and you know,xemnas didn't actually sound pure evil.
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thats what i thought.

i just played through KH2 over the last few days (for the first time... i know.. terrible. Dont worry, ive been a fan since KH1 came out) and i thought that Xemnas lacked the evil that Ansem did. Although, that could be because he cannot feel/express emotion or whatever but... yeah..

ill try think of more, but dont feel shy about throwing ur own ideas in people
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oh wait,that part contradicts your theory.

since he is a nobody,he isn't pure evil,emotionless,and so,no feelings at all.

or maybe not.
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Old 04/14/08, 11:14 AM   #12
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nah nah. He doesn't have the emotions n stuff cause he is a nobody, but he wants to get them back to become Terra again. I dont think desire is an emotion, so.. yeah... its possible?
Maybe they can desire but find it difficult to seperate right from wrong, cause Xemnas had no problem wanting to create a new world, yet Axel was able to sacrafice himself to allow Sora to live, etc.

Another idea: Nobodies seem to take on the traits of their 'whole' beings, or rather, they mimic themselves by what they remember. Although Xemnas and Ansem didn't really act very similar, in my opinion so... if Xemnas had (some of) Terra's memories, coupled with YX's, he would be able to be a different being than Ansem (Seeker of Darkness)
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Default Re: My input to the MX/Terra/Xenohart mystery

While it is a cool idea, I don 't think it's possible for the game. The main problem is MX and Terra turning into a heartless. This is not possible as heartless weren't around at the time, and so therefore, neither of them could become a heartless.
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Old 04/14/08, 01:10 PM   #14
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well thats what im saying. They dont become a heartless/nobody. They were in the process of becoming (the first heartless, as they were loosing their hearts), but by accident (or not accident?) traded hearts/bodies, like the hearts left the bodies but went to the other body, and.. yeah... my theory starts there.

so not really a heartless, but they were in the process.
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Old 04/14/08, 08:40 PM   #15
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Default Re: My input to the MX/Terra/Xenohart mystery

it's a good thoery but you said that xehanort has terra's body if that is true then why is xemnas bad
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