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Old 04-14-2008, 04:11 PM   #16
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Default Re: My input to the MX/Terra/Xenohart mystery

crossing of memories,i think.

maybe that's why,i think xemnas is not fully bad..
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Old 04-14-2008, 05:37 PM   #17
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Default Re: My input to the MX/Terra/Xenohart mystery

Once again, why does everyone think Terra=MX? I'm still confused on this point...
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Default Re: My input to the MX/Terra/Xenohart mystery

good theory, kudos 2 u, though i just scanned thru it.
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Old 04-14-2008, 06:49 PM   #19
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Good theory.........its something new (i think)...and it was ACTUALLY worth reading (unlike other theories around here)

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Default Re: My input to the MX/Terra/Xenohart mystery

I don't think that Xemnas looks like Terra..........Maybe Xehanort does but not Xemnas, Xemnas looks like he's on some wonder drugs like the peeps in Across the Universe overdosed on lolololol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I made a funny.............Anyway but yeah I think that Terra is Xenahort and the MX is the old guy................
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Okay, i know what ur all gonna say: We wont know till the game comes out etc, etc, etc.
Which is a stupid and pathetic answer... Nothing but useless posts in my eyes...

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But i just thought of something while thinking about a fanfic im working on, and decided i should share it with you all, even if its just a stupid idea.
There are only a few stupid ideas... Most are decently thought up...

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Maybe, in the end of the game (BBS) after the battle we already seen, MX or Terra begins to become a Heartless/Nobody, like their heart/body are being torn apart. But he (whichever it is) grabs onto the other and somehow takes out the heart/body of the other.
The only problem with this, is that, of course, heartless and nobodies do not exsist during that time period... It was through Xehanort's experiments that they came to be...

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thus the two merge into two seperate beings: rather than creating a heartless or a nobody, the result is MX's body with Terra's heart, and vice versa. This may explain as to why Xenohart (the young one) resembles Terra, and MX.
Although this would mean that if Xenohart is MX's heart with Terra's body, there would have to be the 'vice versa', which could or could not be the E.S. (just throwing out ideas now)
Though I favor the DS+MX theory a lot more, I do see MX+Terra possible... But, instead of that way, I see it more likely that MX and Terra simply fused completely... MX attempted to absorb KH (seeing as both his heartless and nobody wanted power form KH) and Terra tried to stop him, but, like it did to Ansem, KH could not be contained and exploaded... The resulting blast could have fused Terra and MX together, wiped their memories, leave them almost dead, and send them to Radient Garden... If it could expell Xehanort's heartless form Riku and kill Ansem, then we can only guess it's true powers...

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well. as said by the ansem reports, the first heartless was made by Xenohart when he begun experimenting on the heart and his subject's heart collapsed, so he left the bodies of these people under the castle of Radient Garden. When he decided to check on them later, a heartless greeted him.
The first documented case of a heartless begin created. Im guessing at the same time the first nobody was formed. Maybe there is more to these 'subjects' that he was first experimenting on, im pretty sure he experimented on the townsfolk of RG so... i dunno, maybe theres something hidden there.
Yeah, but it was through his research alone that they came to be... Also, the first nobody may or may not have been created then... All depends on the strength of the person's heart...

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but like said above, this is the first documented case of a heartless appearing, it doesn't nessecarily mean it is actually the first case. Although others are sure to tell me otherwise
Again, it came to be from Xehanort's research alone... Also, Nomura said heartless were not around in BBS... Even if it were at the end, it would still be apart of BBS... =P

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So Young Xenohart (YX) is actually Terra's body with MX's heart.
Or simply MX and Terra(or DS) fused...

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Due to the unique way that he was formed, he looses all of his memory, or, because the heart isn't neccesarily his the body doesn't accept/recognise them or something (like how Sora only saw a few, if not one, of Kairi's memories, despite being a close friend and having her heart within himself).
Or a failed attempt at absorbing KH that caused an explosion...

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As he casts his heart away, Xemnas is formed. Xemnas however, as seen in some scenes of KHII:FM+, seems to have at least some idea of his past. Now, with some of MX's urgings pushing him onward (as most of them went with 'Ansem'), and an inability to feel, he searches for his heart again to be reborn as Terra, as he is Terra's body, only without his Heart. Maybe the idea of him creating a new world was actually one of peace. Without heartless, or nobodies, or darkness.
I doubt Xemnas' true goals were ever revealed... Promising all nobodies hearts may have only been a way for him to get them under his complete control... Toward the end of KH2, when he was the last Org member, his lust seemed to slowly move from getting a heart to getting power...

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Although, this would ofcause still leave the question of the MXbody/Terraheart being, who is probably in hiding or plotting against YX or something. I dunno... More on this another day i guess...
D= Or Terra(or DS) and MX just fused completely...

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xemnas having terra's side,yes,i thought of that,and you know,xemnas didn't actually sound pure evil.
Neither did Clayton in Tarzan, but we have seen how quickly people can change... I'm hoping that we get to see a lot more of Xemnas in 358/2...

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nah nah. He doesn't have the emotions n stuff cause he is a nobody, but he wants to get them back to become Terra again. I dont think desire is an emotion, so.. yeah... its possible?
Still think his true goal was to build his world and slowly take over the others with the power of KH...

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Maybe they can desire but find it difficult to seperate right from wrong, cause Xemnas had no problem wanting to create a new world, yet Axel was able to sacrafice himself to allow Sora to live, etc.
Or the Org, aside from Roxas and Axel, are truely just evil...

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Another idea: Nobodies seem to take on the traits of their 'whole' beings, or rather, they mimic themselves by what they remember. Although Xemnas and Ansem didn't really act very similar, in my opinion so... if Xemnas had (some of) Terra's memories, coupled with YX's, he would be able to be a different being than Ansem (Seeker of Darkness)
Normally, yes, but... It would be hard to say the same holds completely true with Xemnas and XH... Their creation was not exactly normal...
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Old 04-15-2008, 05:43 AM   #22
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Default Re: My input to the MX/Terra/Xenohart mystery

Thanks for all your feedback guys, im glad most of you like it (whether you agree with it or not).

Something i'd like to address however. When people say that its impossible for them to have their hearts/bodies taken apart because the heartless/nobodies don't exist yet. I mean KH is a world where ANYTHING can happen.
eg: Beast makes it to HB through a corridor of darkness through sheer force of will, despite having no power over darkness or any knowledge of how to do so.
I dont see why it's so impossible for something like this to happen. I mean, if hearts/bodies cannot be taken apart before heartless... how was the first heartless created?
Because Xenohart experiemented on people, which (according to my theory) is the Xenohart who is having the dark urgings by MX, who is possible to know quite a bit about the heart: due to him being able to control not only 1 keyblade, but many many many keyblades at one time.
Im not attacking anyone ps, just shouldnt rule things out by what we think is the rules of the kh universe, i mean.. Nomura can do anything he wants, he has complete creative control over this universe, i dont think if he has a good idea hes gonna go..
"oh wait.. by the laws of the first games thats impossible. I shouldnt put it in..."
Yeah...

Anyway... Thanks guys, keep the feedback coming! I'll try adding to it soon. Dont feel shy about throwing ur own ideas about this in, im interested as to how others feel about it.

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Old 04-15-2008, 06:14 AM   #23
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Because he's a freaking Nobody with no emotions and therefore no conscience to what he's about to do, and he thinks only for himself.
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