Question about MX....

[*~NeoAdamus~*]

In the translated scene of MX talking to Terra, he points out that one who is consumed by darkness can not wield a keyblade. Wouldn't that mean that MX is not that of full darkness. Although the secret ending of KH2FM he fights off Terra with a keyblade. Perhaps he utilizes darkness like Riku did, but at that moment in KH1 Rikus heart was falling closer to darkness and was thus controlled by Xehanorts heartless. I realize this would lead to the reason why Xehanorts heartless was able to retain his form so in that matter why is he so different. Some could say it's because he had a strong heart but so did Sora and his heart was consumed by darkness.

MX talks of walking beyond the border of Light, and Darkness. Was he talking about KH, if I recall after Riku and Sora closed the door to KH Riku was lost in darkness but was saved by Mickey i think and then wound up at Castle Oblivion which was discovered by the Organization but created before their time.

Another thing is the Black Heart Symbol on the new enemies, I noticed on MX Keyblade, especially the Keychain is that the chain itself has spikes like the symbol, anyone think it's possible that symbol may be on his keychain? And even though i know he was holding the handle of his keyblade anyone else noticed it looked like he was looking at his keychain?

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[PostMentalFerocity]

Adamus. On certain things, I don't use the excuse "Characters are lying", but on this one, I have to disagree. That would counterscript the first 3 games.

But no one can tell me that I didn't call it when I said that Square was going to retcon. Another victory for PMF. That makes 237.

[Blight]

First, yes there is a difference between utilizing darkness and being consumed by it. Terra could have tried to gain power equal to MX by stepping into darkness but was almost by it.

And about the MX keychain thing,
I dont think I he was lookin at it, but they creators did show us that he had a keychain for a reason so i could be wrong.

Xehanort and MX have to be connected so the heartless sybol could come from MX's keychain but i dont remember seeing it.

[Forever Atlas]

well we already know that this game is supposed to answer a lot of questions that were left unanswered but one theory some of us thought about is that maybe the keyblades used by MX are synthetic or man-made keyblades

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[*~NeoAdamus~*]

Eh.... im just throwing these question on the plate, it's hard to understand the official meaning of exactly who the characters are. An in depth view of Xehanort is in need of understanding, and although its best to wait for the game, 2009 aint comin any quicker. So it's best to spread this like coke and divide the portions. We all need a little high LOL

[Jake]

I think that MX created the keychains in a attempt to utilize his darkness through many mediums, and to prove that he should be the real keyblade master.

[OmniChaos]

Originally Posted by Adamus

In the translated scene of MX talking to Terra, he points out that one who is consumed by darkness can not wield a keyblade. Wouldn't that mean that MX is not that of full darkness.

Well... Like PMF said, he could be lying... It is a good possibility...
But, there could be a different reason... It kinda depends if darkness was just recently created...
Even if MX didn't use the power of darkness, it does not mean he isn't evil... He could have used the light for evil... He may have seen darkness as an imperfect thing and thought that nothing good could come from it... Nomura sure is making this game a head scratcher...

Although the secret ending of KH2FM he fights off Terra with a keyblade. Perhaps he utilizes darkness like Riku did, but at that moment in KH1 Rikus heart was falling closer to darkness and was thus controlled by Xehanorts heartless.

Well, just because MX said that one of darkness cannot weild a keyblade, doesn't make it true... It may be his personal beliefs...

I realize this would lead to the reason why Xehanorts heartless was able to retain his form so in that matter why is he so different. Some could say it's because he had a strong heart but so did Sora and his heart was consumed by darkness.

Yeah, but the major difference is that Sora's heart had little darkness in it, resulting in him creating a weak heartless... But because of his strong heart, a human nobody was then formed... Xehanort, on the other hand, had a heart full of darkness and thus became the strongest heartless (though he may had only been a heart)...

MX talks of walking beyond the border of Light, and Darkness. Was he talking about KH, if I recall after Riku and Sora closed the door to KH Riku was lost in darkness but was saved by Mickey i think and then wound up at Castle Oblivion which was discovered by the Organization but created before their time.

Possibly... I for one believe that Castle Oblivion was MX's castle, seeing as it and his keyblade both share the bull like animal on it... Perhaps there is a reason why Namine appeared there... But, I think the only reason why Riku came out there was because Ansem "helped" him out...

Another thing is the Black Heart Symbol on the new enemies, I noticed on MX Keyblade, especially the Keychain is that the chain itself has spikes like the symbol, anyone think it's possible that symbol may be on his keychain? And even though i know he was holding the handle of his keyblade anyone else noticed it looked like he was looking at his keychain?

Yeah... Also notice how the symbol itself looks like a 'M' and a 'X'...?

[Anima Relic]

Originally Posted by Adamus

In the translated scene of MX talking to Terra, he points out that one who is consumed by darkness can not wield a keyblade.

The trailer from the Closed Megatheater was translated, and it had a scene with Ven and DS. MX appears and says "Those that submit to darkness are not qualified to wield the keyblade." The way I see it, MX only thinks that whoever willingly gives themselves up to darkness shouldn't be able to wield a keyblade, but this is later disproven by Riku

Originally Posted by Adamus

Wouldn't that mean that MX is not that of full darkness Although the secret ending of KH2FM he fights off Terra with a keyblade.

It only means that MX prefers Light over Darkness or he believes there should be a balance between them.

Originally Posted by Adamus

Some could say it's because he had a strong heart but so did Sora and his heart was consumed by darkness.

Sora had very little darkness in his heart to begin with, Kairi purified it, and Sora, at that time, became an existence only of the heart. Technically, Sora wasn't a heartless anymore since that darkness was purified, so it's like Sora doesn't really have any darkness left in his heart. I could be wrong, but Nomura did say that Kairi purified Sora, and when I hear "purifiy", I start thinking "completely cleared or purged". Although Sora's Antiform contradicts this (maybe, maybe not).

Originally Posted by Adamus

MX talks of walking beyond the border of Light, and Darkness. Was he talking about KH, if I recall after Riku and Sora closed the door to KH Riku was lost in darkness but was saved by Mickey i think and then wound up at Castle Oblivion which was discovered by the Organization but created before their time.

Well, MX said the walls of light and darkness have crossed/overlapped/something similar to that and it created the original him. He says something similar to Terra too. MX: "I believed you'd find your way by now- cross the wall between the light and darkness. to me."

I believe that when MX said that to Terra, he may have been talking about Castle Oblivion, which is in the twilight realm. As for the walls of light and darkness creating the original him, I say it either refers to DS or it might actually refer to his anagram Another X, which I and probably others like to sometimes call, Another Xehanort

Originally Posted by Adamus

Another thing is the Black Heart Symbol on the new enemies, I noticed on MX Keyblade, especially the Keychain is that the chain itself has spikes like the symbol, anyone think it's possible that symbol may be on his keychain? And even though i know he was holding the handle of his keyblade anyone else noticed it looked like he was looking at his keychain?

In the video, I looked as hard as I could, and not once did I see MX look at the keychain of his keyblade. As Omni stated already, the symbol itself looks like a M and a X. Almost typed an entire theory here, but I'll make a thread about it.

[*~NeoAdamus~*]

when he turns the keyblade into the orb he doesnt have it up looking at the tip of the blade like He-Man, or the Thunder cat leader would do, but flat at the handle of the blade. In fact the keyblade morphs backwards to where the handle would be, and all that's left is a tiny orb which i believe would be what was on his keychain

[Anima Relic]

Aye, but if you look closely, you'd see a small blue looking orb in the middle of MX's keyblade while it's being transformed into that Orb that summons KH, besides that the keyblade doesn't look like it's being morphed backwards, it looks like it was being sucked into the Orb.

[Zero Sora]

That would counterscript the first 3 games.

And also counter Nomura himself, for he said "Keyblades have 2 different constitutions, either from the Light side or the Dark side. This is merely the exterior key. The inner key can act from either side and its abilities won’t change. There is no clear division between Good and Evil."

Judging by what he said, it doesn't matter how much darkness a person has, therefore the person should still be able to wield a Keyblade.

[*~NeoAdamus~*]

Wouldn't this blow the MX+DS=Xehanort, MX+Terra=Xehanort theories out of the water

MX can use a keyblade, in some sense he either utilizes the power of light or darkness, but if he was a part of Terra or DS which was to create Xehanort wouldn't that mean he would have been able to use a keyblade aswell. That would also mean that Xemnas would be able to weild a keyblade.

The other thing is that Soras antiform could not use a keyblade unless you used a cheat in the game. This could be precisely what MX meant, but even still he was able to change back to his original form. Huge Headscratcher

[Kurix]

MX proabably accepts and uses Darkness willingly and freely, like Riku did in Chain of Memories: Reverse/Rebirth.

MX's Keyblade's Keychain is a black Heart with three silver chains joining in the middle

[*~NeoAdamus~*]

you never get a clear view of it though

unless you have a picture, i'd gladly see

[OmniChaos]

Wouldn't this blow the MX+DS=Xehanort, MX+Terra=Xehanort theories out of the water

MX can use a keyblade, in some sense he either utilizes the power of light or darkness, but if he was a part of Terra or DS which was to create Xehanort wouldn't that mean he would have been able to use a keyblade aswell. That would also mean that Xemnas would be able to weild a keyblade.

Not at all... If a weilder cannot remember weilding the keyblade, then they won't have one...
Take Roxas for example... While in Twilight Town with no memories of his former life, he could not weild a keyblade... But, as Sora awoke and the memories began to return, the keyblade returned to Roxas...
The same would most likely happen to Xehanort... When his memories of his past begin to return, his keyblade should as well...