7 Princesses = 7 Keyblade wielders

[Zero Inferno]

The only connection between the Princesses of Heart and the confirmed Keybearers is that there are seven of each, but there's no link between each PoH to each KB; ie, each PoH has a respective KB, but there seem to be no links in looks, attitudes or histories that match.

[Anima Relic]

Originally Posted by RoxasSoraRikuKey

This post fails, Kairi is not a keyblade wielder... She was GIVEN the god damn keyblade for ONE cutscene by RIKU... She was able to wield it because she is one the pretty little princesses of heart. Though, this post would not fail if you put MX in her place.

In this case, Kairi can't wield a keyblade, she can hold it and swing it around, but she can't wield one. Plus, just because she is a POH doesn't mean she can wield one either. Donald and Goofy can hold the keyblade and swing it around too if Sora let them.

[Oe98]

Can't Terra, Ven, and Aqua be considered as Riku, Sora, and Kairi? They obviously have a connection with their names, but as for the whole, "keyblade wielder" thing, Kairi has not been confirmed, but if VAT and SRK have a connection with their names, and Sora and Ven with the whole "keyblade wielder" thing. Terra has a keyblade, and Riku has an artificial one [though it is still a keyblade] and wouldn't that mean that Aqua [a keyblade wielder] and Kairi are connected someway like the other two, not just by their names? I mean, Aqua isn't a PoH, but Kairi is. And VAT and SRK are connected in at least three ways:

1. The meaning of their names.

2. Each group member is a friend to the rest of the group [Sora is a friend with RK, and Ven is a friend of AT]

3. They are all important to other worlds [Sora=Keyblade Master, Riku=Messing with the Org. and Maleficent, Kairi=PoH, VAT all are Keyblade Masters]

Riku and Terra both have, like I've stated, Keyblades. Whether artificial or not they're still keyblades, you can not deny that. Sora and Ven both have keyblades. Aqua has a keyblade, and Kairi has been able to control a keyblade at least once, and in KH1 it turns out that Riku was supposed to be the keyblade wielder, not Sora. Riku took Sora's keyblade in Traverse Town and it didn't teleport into Sora's hands then he threw it back to Sora, before the insidents at Hollow Bastion. Would it be safe to say that Kairi could have been chosen to wield a keyblade? The "artificially made" keyblade forged by the seven Princesses of Heart?

If so, then I do in fact see a connection between the fourteen. As for Mickey, he's older than VAT and SRK. He influenced Riku, he aided Sora seal Kingdom Hearts, if he's not connected to the seven Princesses....

[Anima Relic]

1,Ven and Terra are the only ones with obvious connections to Sora and Riku.

2. As for now, Aqua's connections aren't clear other than the meaning of her name.

3. Who says VAT are all friends anyways because in KH words can have different meanings.

4.Riku's keyblade is not artificial, it's real. The Way to Dawn has a keychain.

5.Kairi didn't "control" a keyblade she just held one that Riku loaned to her and she swung it around a bit to help in the fight. No, it's not safe to say Kairi was chosen to wield a keyblade. That artifical keyblade, "the Heart Unlocker" didn't choose Kairi, besides that it was destroyed.



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[DaisyDuck]

There is also abosolutly no evidense to suggest she is not a keyblade weilder. The "Sora could give the keyblade to Donald or Goofy" doesn't work either. Why? People who are not keyblade wielders cannot hold the keyblade for more than a few seconds.

KH I: Leon picks up the keyblade...it returns to Sora

KH II: Sora hands the keyblade to Jack Sparrow. It returns to Sora. Also Pete metions to Hades that keyblades are very particular about who can use them.

Furthermore in KH I Malificent gives Soul Eater, an incomplete keyblade, to Riku because she recognizes that he has the ability to use it and that the blade will accept him. If she could use it's power herself she likely would have.

In contrast:

KH I: Riku is able to take the keyblade from Sora and use it. Sora must prove that his heart is stronger to reclaim it. Riku can take because he is a keyblade weilder

KH II: Riku is able to use Oblivion without it returning to Roxas for the same reason.

If Kairi did not have the ability or at least the bare minium requirements to be a keyblade weilder she would not have been able to use the keyblade Riku gave her. Therefore because she is able to use it and the blade does not reject her, she is a keyblade weilder.

[Anima Relic]

Originally Posted by DaisyDuck

There is also abosolutly no evidense to suggest she is not a keyblade weilder. The "Sora could give the keyblade to Donald or Goofy" doesn't work either. Why? People who are not keyblade wielders cannot hold the keyblade for more than a few seconds.

KH I: Leon picks up the keyblade...it returns to Sora

KH II: Sora hands the keyblade to Jack Sparrow. It returns to Sora. Also Pete metions to Hades that keyblades are very particular about who can use them.

Furthermore in KH I Malificent gives Soul Eater, an incomplete keyblade, to Riku because she recognizes that he has the ability to use it and that the blade will accept him. If she could use it's power herself she likely would have.

In contrast:

KH I: Riku is able to take the keyblade from Sora and use it. Sora must prove that his heart is stronger to reclaim it. Riku can take because he is a keyblade weilder

KH II: Riku is able to use Oblivion without it returning to Roxas for the same reason.

If Kairi did not have the ability or at least the bare minium requirements to be a keyblade weilder she would not have been able to use the keyblade Riku gave her. Therefore because she is able to use it and the blade does not reject her, she is a keyblade weilder.

1. Anyone with a strong enough heart can wield the keyblade, this was stated by Nomura. So yes, Donald and Goofy can too, if Sora let them.

2. Kairi only had the keyblade for a couple of seconds too, so you basically proved yourself wrong.

3. Leon and Jack both had weapons of their own, Kairi didn't have anything she could fight with to protect anyone or herself.

4. Sora's heart was stronger than Leon's and Jack's, their hearts were probably not strong enough.

5.As I said, Kairi's heart became strong enough when she wanted to help Sora and so Riku lent her that keyblade. Therefore she is still not a keyblade wielder.


EDIT:
6.The Soul Eater wasn't a keyblade at all, it was just a sword of darkness, until it transformed into the Way to Dawn. It's just like how Sora's wooden Sword transformed into the KK.

7. Riku was the one orignally mean to wield the KK, that's why he was able to take it from Sora whenever his heart was stronger than his. So your reason for this is null and void.

8. Again, Riku had a strong heart, Roxas didn't have one at all, Riku can take and keep the keyblade for Roxas for this reason. So again, null and void on your part.

[DaisyDuck]

I'd hardly call a battle few seconds. And what's more given what you said, if anyone with a strong enough heart can weild a keyblade, that would make her a keyblade weilder by default. It's more than a little coincedental that Riku finds another keyblade just when she needs one. We probably don't see it again because she doesn't need it after that battle and it wasn't necessary for her to help open the door. It was Sora, Riku, and Mickey who closed it and they would have to be the ones to open it again.

I still have not seen a single bit of proof that she is not keyblade weilder. I'll admit it can be argued both ways, but there is no solid proof that she is not. The fact is she gets a keyblade and and kills heartless with it. And that's the exact same thing that Sora, Riku, Roxas, and Mickey all do.

[Jub Jub376]

Anima Relic, I support your theories. They are plausible.

Kairi, I think, is unable to use a Keyblade, but she could probably manipulate them, if possible. That could be how she was able to wield her 'Destiny Island' Keyblade. Or Riku just gave it to her.


Roxas was Sora's Nobody, formed when Sora stabbed himself with the Keyblade formed from the Princesses of Hearts' Hearts.Roxas could have either been able to wield Oblivion and Oathkeeper due to Sora's memories of Riku (Oblivion) and Kairi (Oathkeeper); or through the process of how he was created, when Sora stabbed himself willingly with the Dark KeyBlade. But then there would have been possibly more Nobodies with KeyBlades if the same occurence with the same KeyBlade happened.

Riku was the original KeyBlade Wielder. He gave himself to Darkness, and his Heart became weak, so he was stuck with the SoulEater, which was a sword of Darkness, given to him most likely by Maleficent. Then, as he journeyed through Castle Oblivion, he soon confronted Ansem, the Seeker of Darkness (Xehanort's Heartless), and dealt with his inner Darkness, giving him the possible ability to wield a KeyBlade, and his SoulEater was transformed into the Way To The Dawn KeyBlade.




But as for the KeyBlade Graveyard...


Considering that 'anyone with a strong enough Heart, and whom meets the requirements to attain a KeyBlade', could wield and use a KeyBlade with simplicity.

This could mean that there may have been more KeyBlade Wielders before the KH2 Secret Cutscene with Aqua, Terra, Ven, etc. They could have been a force against the Heartless, or Darkness, or even could have been fighting each other. Therefore The Old Man (Xehanort) could have been the last of the Dark Keyblade Wielders, or a traitor to all of the KeyBlade Wielders, resutling in Terra, Aqua, and Ven being sent to destroy him. When the KeyBlade Wielders lose their Hearts, or lose the ability to summon their respective KeyBlade, their Keyblade is sent to the Keyblade Graveyard, and with so many all in one place, the Old Man could have been using it to summon Kingdom Hearts, or to collect souvenirs.

Now that to me seems like a possiblity.

[Anima Relic]

@Daisy Duck

No, that doesn't make her a keyblade wielder, she has to be able to summon one at will too. Having a strong enough heart is just one of the basic "qualifications". Also, from what we saw she didn't even destroy a heartless, it looked like she only smacked one. It's not more than coincedental that Riku is able to transform the Soul Eater into a different keyblade. We don't see it again because she can't summon a keyblade, she wasn't even chosen by one. Necessary my ass, if she really wanted to help in the fight against Xemnas she would have pulled that keyblade out in a heartbeat and be ready to help the others fight. There is no proof or hints that she is a keyblade wielder like I said. This can be argued for a long time, but until anything comes out that suggests she is a keyblade wielder than she isn't one. So the fact is Riku lent her a keyblade, and she helped out a little.

[DaisyDuck]

And you have the gall to call me ignorant. She is a keyblade weilder, because she did actually weild a keyblade. Nothing you want to believe will change that. And there is nothing concrete that says she isn't. You have yet to show any statement anywhere that says she absolutely isn't from any credible source.

You brought it up yourself. "Anyone with a strong enough heart can weild a keyblade." She meets that requirement.

I apologize for not jumping on the Kairi-hating wagon and for not dissmissing an important main character and part of the trio, a theme that is being repeated in BBS, as useless and stupid, when she most certainly is not.

[Anima Relic]

^That is complete BS, just because someone gives you a keyblade for a couple of seconds or even 1 minute does not make you a keyblade wielder. It's not a belief it's a fact. You keep saying there is nothing concrete that says she isn't but the truth is you can't find anything to prove it. There are also other requirements, I just said having a strong enough heart is a basic requirement for one to wield a keyblade. She met that requirement ONE time, doesn't mean her heart is still that strong. I don't hate Kairi at all, yes she is slightly important thought not as important as the others, but the truth and fact is Kairi is not a keyblade wielder....until further notice . That's like saying I'm a Marksman because I can shoot a gun. Or I'm a tennis player because I can swing a racket.

[Rhapsody]

Originally Posted by MAX!

well I've been thinking that

there are seven princesses

and there are seven Keyblade wielders :

Terra , Ven , Aqua , Sora , Riku , Kairi , Mickey

and I'm not sure about MX and his own keyblade

cuz he turned it to a weird thing to summon KH ( KH 2 FM+ SE )

so ant thoughts ?

I don't count Kairi as a keyblade weilders, but MX, yeah...
And what connection between 7 princesses and the 7 keyblade weilders?

[Patius]

i think u should replace kairi with MX....it's more fitting

[Kairiangel]

hhmm....there can be some sort of a connection! because history will repeat itself so good point!

[Xuan]

I'll say that there is no sufficient proof to prove that Kairi's a Keyblade Wielder or not. Personally, I could agree that Kairi's a Keyblade Wielder because of one thing: Her Keyblade. Flower Power Woot! I can't think of anyone wielding something that flowery >.> She might be the exception >.> All the same: I don't think that Riku would use such a keyblade, ever >.> So saying that it belongs to Riku is...

Still, I stay at the middle.