what do you guys think happened to VAT after the fight with MX?

[HadesDragon]

Originally Posted by Destiny's End

I just love happy endings.

I know, who doesn't?

Oh, and MX has a religious awakening and becomes a televangelist.

[dark shadow girl]

I think Ven lost his heart and his soul and his body faded away into the darkness and thats how Roxas
got a body kinda like Ansem with Riku. Or maybe Roxas just remembers Ven and at the end of kh2 he
said that they remember themselves the way they want to. But as to what happened to them I'd say
between the part where they walk down the roads to the part where the fight begins something is left
out in the middle of all that. And the part where Terra holds Ven back is because he knows he is no
match for MX and attacks him himself because he has a better chance of succeding. And I believe
that MX knew as well that Ven was no match for him hence whats the point of killing him and why not
just toy with Aqua and Terras emotions by hurting Ven. Hence why Terra and Aqua looked so concerned
If this theory has been disproven sorry didn't know.

[incognito]

I'm want to know where Aqua disappeared to.

[dark shadow girl]

Originally Posted by incognito

I'm want to know where Aqua disappeared to.

She got amnesia during the fight and Mickey was able to get her and only her out safely. She
settled down, got married, had a couple kids, then one day MX reappears and kills her. Is it
just me or does this part sound weird.

[KCDjedi]

Hmmm, I suddenly thought that it could be possible that the "voice" that Sora hears from time to time in the series is Ven "from the beyond" or something like that.
Ven is most likely much more important to Sora than any of the other characters in BbS that we know of, so I doubt that he dies. Like alot of people here, I believe that Ven is somehow connected very closely to Sora.

As for Aqua.... Are we certain that it is her armor in Final Mix and not someone else's? Could it not have been the armor that Xemnas wore at the end of the game?
And did anyone else besides me find the armored Xemnas boss battle at the end of KHII really out of place, considering no-one else wears armor in either of the games besides Terra, Aqua, and Ven?

Terra.... lives, more or less. I sort of see him as a shell of his former self by the end of the game. Sort of a ghost/phantom-like being. Thus the "Lingering Sentiment" title for his boss battle in Final Mix (not cannon, I know, but it still works for this kind of stuff).

Speaking of "sentiment"... who else has a lingering sentiment in KH... someone who regretted something, maybe? It's familiar, but I can't put my finger on it.

[dark shadow girl]

I think people have mentioned before that the voice Sora hears could be Ven, but its not quite
certain. Also, people think that it's Aqua or Ven, but people lean more towards Aqua, but that
also is not certain. People still debate whether or not V.A.T. still lives or even survived the fight.
Maybe Ven is connected to Sora but its already been ruled out that they are brothers, and he's way
to young in BBS to be his father, and Square says that they are not related by blood, none of them
are. Sorry if I seem like a jerk about this.

[KCDjedi]

Originally Posted by dark shadow girl

Sorry if I seem like a jerk about this.

Not at all, don't worry about it :D.


And yeah, I knew that neither Ven, nor Aqua or Terra are related (blood-relation or some other family connection) to Sora, Riku, or Kairia, but I meant connected as in the "this world has been connected." type of way (and before anyone jumps me on that, I know that that quote was made by Ansem/Xehanort's Heartless).

Something deeper than your standard familial connection.

[dark shadow girl]

Maybe Sora had a deep respect and admiration of Ven.

[The Liberator]

Since I seriously doubt I will ever get even the second chapter of my fanfic up, this is what I was going to have happen,

1.MX is dieing and uses Ven's life energy to provide the life for the body produced by KH, becoming Xehanort, but Micky interrupts the process and the result is no memory.

2. DS is seriously injured but escapes, and fades away a little after the AtW's apprentices do, becoming Saix, but does not mention their past upon learning that Xemnas has no memory before being found by Ansem.

3. Ven is dying but has Terra and Aqua to merge his soul with Sora's, and dies after this.

4. the fourth realm is the Abyss, the realm of the dead, where the souls of those who do not fade to darkness go, as well as the souls of the nobodies that are destroyed.

5. Aqua's armour is damaged, and shes gets rid of it. Xehanort finds it, and repairs it. Xemnas was talking sarcastically.

6. Terra and Aqua, accepting there defeat, place themselves in stasis in a chamber beneath the Hall of the Cornerstone.

7.MX is from the Realm of the dead.

8. DS is from the realm of light, but finds MX and becomes his apprentice

9.the presence of Ven's soul from Sora's arrival at Disney Castle begins to awaken Terra, this is how Sora fights him in FM+.

9. KH is all of the realms, with the crossroads at the center being the only point where you can freely traverse from one realm to another.

10. If a being from the Abyssal realm is defeated/dies in another realm, they can never return to the Realm of the Dead unless they are reborn.

11. Beings from the Realm of the Dead that become nobodies and heartless are reborn at the crossroads.

12. After Sora and Riku defeat Xemnas, Xehanort is reborn with all of his memories, and uses his powers to gather all members from the organization other than Axel and 14, and makes the unloyal members swear on their lives to never betray him. He seals there oaths with magic

13. Aqua was awakened when Sora became a heartless and joined the organization to get Roxas out, posing as a nobody. When her identity was discovered, she escaped and returned to stasis.

14. Yen Sid was once a keyblade wielder, but abused his powers, and after an accident that caused deaths of the entire population of a rather large world, he felt guilty and swore to never use the keyblade again.

15. DS is Aqua's brother.

[Relentless Blitz]

1.MX is dieing and uses Ven's life energy to provide the life for the body produced by KH, becoming Xehanort, but Micky interrupts the process and the result is no memory.

Umm,it's similar to some of the MX+Terra theories and if this happened then how would Xemnas have Terra's looks?

2. DS is seriously injured but escapes, and fades away a little after the AtW's apprentices do, becoming Saix, but does not mention their past upon learning that Xemnas has no memory before being found by Ansem.

DS being Saix's original person?

That is posssible,but a little bit of explaining is needed.

3. Ven is dying but has Terra and Aqua to merge his soul with Sora's, and dies after this.

So he loses or gets some of his life force drained by MX and before dying he tells Terra and Aqua to merge his Soul with Sora?

That's cool.

4. the fourth realm is the Abyss, the realm of the dead, where the souls of those who do not fade to darkness go, as well as the souls of the nobodies that are destroyed.

The fourth real being the realm of the dead,eh?

But wait,in your Fan-fic,has the fourth realm existed during BBS or after BBS?

Because if it existed before the nobodies and heartless were created,then it would have no purpose until Heartless and Nobodies appeared,right?

6. Terra and Aqua, accepting there defeat, place themselves in stasis in a chamber beneath the Hall of the Cornerstone.

And why would they do that?

To heal up?

7.MX is from the Realm of the dead.

So the realm of the dead exists long before the heartless and nobodies.

8. DS is from the realm of light, but finds MX and becomes his apprentice

So DS had a very evil heart and became the apprentice of MX?

9.the presence of Ven's soul from Sora's arrival at Disney Castle begins to awaken Terra, this is how Sora fights him in FM+.

That may be the reason why Terra sees Sora's similarities with Ven before fighting him.

9. KH is all of the realms, with the crossroads at the center being the only point where you can freely traverse from one realm to another.

Then the center is the path to all the realms.

10. If a being from the Abyssal realm is defeated/dies in another realm, they can never return to the Realm of the Dead unless they are reborn.

then they would die and their souls would stay in the realm they died in,so the realm of the dead is a realm where ones who died but do not have their souls taken away by darkness and the souls of defeated nobodies go.

11. Beings from the Realm of the Dead that become nobodies and heartless are reborn at the crossroads.

So ones from the realm of the dead are reborn after becoming a heartless and nobody and so if they become a heartless and nobody again then are again reborn and so on an infinite cycle.

12. After Sora and Riku defeat Xemnas, Xehanort is reborn with all of his memories, and uses his powers to gather all members from the organization other than Axel and 14, and makes the unloyal members swear on their lives to never betray him. He seals there oaths with magic

Please explain on how he regained his memories.

13. Aqua was awakened when Sora became a heartless and joined the organization to get Roxas out, posing as a nobody. When her identity was discovered, she escaped and returned to stasis.

So Aqua joined the organization to get Roxas out,posing as a nobody but actually an enemy.

14. Yen Sid was once a keyblade wielder, but abused his powers, and after an accident that caused deaths of the entire population of a rather large world, he felt guilty and swore to never use the keyblade again.

Yensid being a keyblade wielder?

Now that's weird but possible,I guess...

15. DS is Aqua's brother.

So then Saix would be able to recognize Aqua posing as the fourteenth because Nobodies can regain the memories of their original beings.
I think.

[dark shadow girl]

I think your right about nobodies being able to regain their memories.

[key of darkness]

Do you think the stuff that happens in Bbs
could happen again on kh3?
well it does't seem likely

[Anima Relic]

Meh, I think after the fight with MX Aqua stays behind with Ven to watch over and take care of him, while Terra goes on to fight MX and DS in KH .

[dark shadow girl]

Its always a possibilitythat BBS happens again on KH3, but I think they will put something else on KH3.
Its better than it being a repeat.

And if anything happened to Aqua it was her probably staying behind to watch after Ven and thats
how Terra could of possibly fused with MX or where something happens that is unbeknownst to
Ven and Aqua and everyone else. But what about Mickey while Ven and Aqua stayed behind and Terra
ran off into battle.