ORG MEMBER XIV Theory

[Anima Relic]

^Well I doubt that any member of ORGXIII can just automatically tell whether or not a person has a heart, unless they already knew they had one. Also, I really don't see Xemnas taking a leaf out of Neo's book and reaching his hand in someone's body and touching the heart Nevertheless, my theory was torn apart by you ravenous people haha. The possibilty still stands that XIV is not a nobody at all, and no it was never confirmed that she was a nobody.

[Rufus Shinra]

^ How Xemnas or other then know who is nobody or not in the org? For all we know then, Demyx could have been normal too, and make himself look nobody.

[Anima Relic]

We actually see Demyx die, normal humans don't fade into darkness

[Rufus Shinra]

Nevertheless, before his death, nothing proved he was nobody... So, well, for me, they have a way to know. Or else Xemnas in Twilight Town would have recruit Hayner since long time.

[Organization_42]

Originally Posted by Cid

As I said before, the 14th member of a nobody organization, using nobody for helping nobody should be a nobody.

Or else, I'd like to know why she'd go work with the Organization. They work in the purpose to gain a heart, and so, a normal person who already has a heart does not need the organization. And if she wanted infiltrate the organization, Xemnas would have known that she had a heart.

The idea is that she wouldn't really be working for the Organization, but spying. I don't remember Nomura saying that she named the Org (that'd be cool) but I DO remember him saying that she somehow helped inspire Roxas to leave it. And she mysteriously disappeared before KHII.

Of course, she could simply be a fangirl in disguise...lol

I actually agree with your idea, Anima Relic, but that's because I think it's the most likely reason for her strange absence from the Proof of Existence. She was never a Nobody and once Xemnas realized this, she was no longer considered a "real" member.

Originally Posted by Dantez of Divinity

Xemnas: Hey who’s that guy? (Points at Mickey)
Saix: That’s kimexcy.
Xemnas: Are you sure that’s not king Mickey?
Saix: Don't be stupid Mickey doesn't wear a black cloak.
Xemnas: Oh... right

Now we know why Xemnas is the Superior and Saix isn't!

[Anima Relic]

^What? If that's the case, there was nothing to prove all the other ORG members (Excluding the XIV for now) weren't nobodies other than the fact it was stated. Demyx was a nobody and that's it.

[blader94]

i think that she's a nobody but we will never know until the game comes out.

[~azure.requiem]

Originally Posted by Anima Relic

Mmmmkay, I believe the 14th member is not a nobody at all. Here are my reasons

1. There are only thirteen types of nobodies

2. Each ORG Member had a lesser nobodies type that they controlled, for example, Xemnas controlled the Sorcerer Nobodies and Roxas controlled the Samurai Nobodies.

3. If the XIV member was a nobody, then she should have some lesser type of nobodies to control, and yet there were none.

4. Riku and Mickey took some ORG robes and used them to disguise themselves and infiltrate the ORG, so it'd make sense if someone else did the same before them.

5. In an interview with Nomura it said that the XIV member came up with the name ORGXIII, so why didn't she name it ORGXIV? Because she probably knew she wouldn't be there for long, or she had a mission as a spy and a double agent.



I know what most or some of you are going to say, "Well what about the Twilight Thorn? That's a nobody isn't it!" I say it's not for three reasons.

1.It showed up one time and it didn't show up in a heart (I'm guess the Station of Serenity took place in the soul), unlike the Darkside Heartless that actually was real, since it showed up in many places, for example, in Sora's Dive to Heart as his darkness, in the end on the dark realm side of KH, and on Destiny Islands.

2. It was most likely created by Roxas's soul as a test.

3. If there were more than one, how come the ORG never sent any of them after anyone? I'm pretty sure the Twilght Thorn can take on some heartless by itself and other things, especially with that giant orb attack, thorn like projectiles, and it's ability to be very flexible even for it's size.


Alright, comments, questions, take your best shot.

~ i agree w/ the fact that no.XIV isn't a nobody, but where the freakin heck did u get the rest of this? the dive to the heart taking place inside of the soul? WTH?! what are u? an exorcist?! the only proof we have of anything happening to the soul is the making of a nobody! as for your theory, yo crap just got blown out the water. again. (props to urban)

[Xziled]

well i agree with you on 14th might not be a nobody but not everyone had a lesser nobody they controlled