[Theory]The Most Menacing Enemy

[Gabranth]

Okay I’ve kind of been posting my thoughts on other people’s threads but I think it’s about time I put all my thoughts together in a new theory. I’ll try to keep it short and to the point.

In my previous thread I also quoted some of these but I have a different take on them as before.

"Distant Past... Sleep gives birth to a hidden fate"

While analyzing this I finally narrowed its meaning down to two different things.

1: Either the sleep mentioned here means death and it’s talking about the existence of a new being as a cause of it or,

2: It’s referring to the kind of sleep a nobody used to gain memories and create his personality thus inferring that it means that while sleeping, an old memory was restored revealing something is going to happen in the future.

Now this quote, I know I’ve quoted this a couple times but something about this bothers me.

Xehanort: Did you really think you could grasp that last glimmer? The wall between the light and the darkness have exceeded one another, creating the original me, and here you are waiting for me. (While Xehanort is talking, he opens one of his hands in greeting, enraging Terra.)
Terra: I have a friend.
Terra summons the keyblade with his right hand.

As I mentioned before I think this talks about the creation of the Xehanort we’ve known as Ansem.

The wall between the light and the darkness have exceeded one another

This doesn’t make sense unless the person who typed it forgot to make the word wall plural. In that case it would refer to the walls between the two realms going beyond, or expanding against one another. This would lead me to believe that it’s talking about the creation of the Realm in-between.

creating the original me, and here you are waiting for me.

This is where things started to bug me, MX is said to be talking to Terra and in this quote he makes it sound like Terra is his (MX’s) original self. This annoys Terra and he says:

I have a friend.

He’s (Terra) defending something, like there’s no way he could be the original Xehanort because he has a friend thus proving he has a Heart or something along those Lines. I highly doubt Terra is the original Xehanort but this shows something about him is connected to MX. Unless MX was just taunting him which is possible but I doubt it.

Now this is my speculation of the new enemies. I posted in a different thread that I believe that the new enemy is a soul based being that gains existence in the realm of light. So when a person dies, their body and heart disappear forever but their soul lives on. This is also my Interpretation of Birth by Sleep, Birth of a new being by death.

The reason I involved the realm of light is something I thought of based off of Kairi’s grandma’s story. How is possible to fight over the light? Maybe it’s possible if the light exists as a being. That’s also when I connected the word “Chasers” to it. Either chasing the new beings, or the new beings chasing the light.
I’ve heard a lot of arguments that light can’t be an enemy, but I think it could.

Perhaps they are the most menacing of all because they seek the soul of a person which would only be attainable if that person is killed. It would make sense, they wouldn’t want the heart because there’s darkness in it, and they wouldn’t the body cause it’s just a shell, but the soul could be a source of light.

Anyway this is longer then I thought so I’ll hold off from my other idea till later, tell me what you think.

[slinky]

as the other theorys its interesting but not sure if its completly correct

cool idea

[urso93]

I like that theorie, dont know why maybe because light could be the new enemy but i actually think its quite possible, mainly that light wants soul part... But its just a theory but aniway

[moogless26]

a nobody is made from body and soul, so no.

[Gabranth]

a nobody is made from body and soul, so no.

Just because a nobody is made from a body and soul doesn't mean that the soul doesn't make a different being as well.

[Rhapsody]

^but a body without a soul is lifeless right...?

[Xuan]

I skipped the last part because it doesn't make sense. I'm very direct so don't be offended. The last part doesn't make sense at all.

But the interpretion of MX's speech is impressive.

And hell, I don't believe the enemy is made of soul. But it's your theory, and you can believe what you want.

By the way, after some observation, soul in KH means the mind of a person.

[Gabranth]

^but a body without a soul is lifeless right...?

Yeah life gives way to death, but does that mean the soul dies..?

By the way, after some observation, soul in KH means the mind of a person.

Also a possibility because if it was the mind then that would be where the memories lie

[axemyxas100]

Possibly in some cases, the others one though on the contrary, don't sound possible.

[Valley of Chrome]

Xehanort: Did you really think you could grasp that last glimmer? The wall between the light and the darkness have exceeded one another, creating the original me, and here you are waiting for me.

MX might be the one that discovered the wall between light and dark.
Somehow, the walls are connected to him.
Since the two are expanding so that one won't take over the other,a giant space was left.As you said, that space that was left created the realm of nothingness.

Or, Darkness was winning over the Light.The balance between Light and Darkness disperses.
Darkness was somehow connected to MX that why it expands.
And when MX was defeated, the balance was restored.
Yet, Light never shone again on the place Darkness acquired.
Thus, creating the realm of nothingness.

About MX Creating the Original him, it might be about DS.
Somehow, these things are connected.

[blader94]

pretty good theorie.i agree that light could be an enemy because in KH2 they say that darkness is not bad.i mean look at riku he has the power of darkness and he is good so if darkness can be good then light can be bad just as much.

[NazoFire]

Originally Posted by Gabranth

Okay I’ve kind of been posting my thoughts on other people’s threads but I think it’s about time I put all my thoughts together in a new theory. I’ll try to keep it short and to the point.

In my previous thread I also quoted some of these but I have a different take on them as before.


While analyzing this I finally narrowed its meaning down to two different things.

1: Either the sleep mentioned here means death and it’s talking about the existence of a new being as a cause of it or,

2: It’s referring to the kind of sleep a nobody used to gain memories and create his personality thus inferring that it means that while sleeping, an old memory was restored revealing something is going to happen in the future.

Now this quote, I know I’ve quoted this a couple times but something about this bothers me.



As I mentioned before I think this talks about the creation of the Xehanort we’ve known as Ansem.



This doesn’t make sense unless the person who typed it forgot to make the word wall plural. In that case it would refer to the walls between the two realms going beyond, or expanding against one another. This would lead me to believe that it’s talking about the creation of the Realm in-between.



This is where things started to bug me, MX is said to be talking to Terra and in this quote he makes it sound like Terra is his (MX’s) original self. This annoys Terra and he says:



He’s (Terra) defending something, like there’s no way he could be the original Xehanort because he has a friend thus proving he has a Heart or something along those Lines. I highly doubt Terra is the original Xehanort but this shows something about him is connected to MX. Unless MX was just taunting him which is possible but I doubt it.

Now this is my speculation of the new enemies. I posted in a different thread that I believe that the new enemy is a soul based being that gains existence in the realm of light. So when a person dies, their body and heart disappear forever but their soul lives on. This is also my Interpretation of Birth by Sleep, Birth of a new being by death.

The reason I involved the realm of light is something I thought of based off of Kairi’s grandma’s story. How is possible to fight over the light? Maybe it’s possible if the light exists as a being. That’s also when I connected the word “Chasers” to it. Either chasing the new beings, or the new beings chasing the light.
I’ve heard a lot of arguments that light can’t be an enemy, but I think it could.

Perhaps they are the most menacing of all because they seek the soul of a person which would only be attainable if that person is killed. It would make sense, they wouldn’t want the heart because there’s darkness in it, and they wouldn’t the body cause it’s just a shell, but the soul could be a source of light.

Anyway this is longer then I thought so I’ll hold off from my other idea till later, tell me what you think.

When Terra says "I have a friend" I believe he's talking about his keyblade b/c he's annoyed at MX.

[Gabranth]

When Terra says "I have a friend" I believe he's talking about his keyblade b/c he's annoyed at MX.

So you think that MX is just taunting Terra?

[King Mario]

There is another scene where Terra says "what have you done to his/her heart"? do you think it follows the one where he says "I have a friend"?

[Gildragon]

I think MX is a wordsmith and it trying to mess with Terra's mind. That is all