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Old 02/26/08, 11:50 AM   #31
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lemme just say that to a certain degree this makes no sense.

Riku in no way looks like Ansem, and other than that you are right that Ansem was inside Riku, he needed a shell to form his body but Riku prevailed, and by the lingering darkness in his heart, Ansem was able to reconnect with the world once more and although he was defeated he was still connected to Rikus darkness. When Riku fought Roxas he had to unleash his full pRower of darkness. If u didn't know, when you use or reside with darkness long enough that darkness can overcome. Darkness being Ansem, in that expense Riku became Ansem when he used darkness to its extent.
Riku was Ansem, so how you say that he doesnt look like him? In the beginning he even called himself as Ansem.

Also if you read the novels, there is moment when Riku-Ansem meets with Xemnas.

Im saying that Ven is sealed inside Sora´s heart. In the best times there was only 2 hearts inside Sora.

Kairi´s and his own heart. Ven was sealed inside his own heart. When he stabbed himself, that unlocked the seals and released Ven. Ven possessed Sora´s body and Soul.

Sora´s body and Soul are Roxas to inform the uninformed..
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Old 02/26/08, 11:57 AM   #32
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Hm... I like this idea... but it's still too early to be sure about anything.
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Old 02/26/08, 12:03 PM   #33
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Well, Roxas was supposed to look more like Sora, but Ven was released when Sora stabbed himself, so Roxas took Venīs form. hahah it is funny I think.. well, VEN IS DEAD, if u really think it. But it is rly a matter of opinions. Like thinking Ansem is alive in KH2..
Not sure Ven is dead... but most likely...>.>
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Old 02/26/08, 12:05 PM   #34
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Hm... I like this idea... but it's still too early to be sure about anything.
you know, i feel pretty confident about this one.

I already know pretty much about upcoming games. Im pretty sure that Terra is Xehanort, Xehanort is Terra.

Xehanort is a keyblade-wielder. And I think he stabbed Aqua and Aqua became the first heartless.(just some thoughts)


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Not sure Ven is dead... but most likely...>.>
well, he is kinda dead, kinda alive. It matters if you think Roxas as Ven or just Sora possessed by Ven..
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Old 02/26/08, 12:24 PM   #35
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No Riku wasn't Ansem, He took on the form of Ansem as a token of his darkness. ATW laughs at this because for one he is the real Ansem, and two Riku was ashamed to even show himself to his friends, thus saying that he is now Ansem

I would also if possible like to see a screen of this part of the novel.....scratch that, ill find it.

Soras heart was released turning him into a heartless then being purified by the light of Kairi was he able to regain his heart and an artificial shell. The keyblade Riku used was indeed the only one to unlock hearts with the power of the Princesses of hearts. Once Sora figured out from Riku-Ansem that Kairi rested inside him he used the keyblade to unleash Kairis heart endangering his own.

That keyblade was made to release Kairis heart and in a result Soras heart was led to darkness where as he turned into a heartless. If Ven was inside his heart he would have to make a miraculous journey to the body and soul for you see the body and soul has nothing to do with the heart but only in its strength. If Ven was sealed inside his heart then he would be with the darkness, but in this case being purified by Kairi he'd still have to be inside Sora.
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okay.... I get what your saying....... Sounds good so___ far...
But let me be sure i understand.... are you saying that ven was sealed in sora or at least his soul not his heart so when sora stabbed his heart it let ven out making roxas???
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Old 02/26/08, 12:49 PM   #37
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okay.... I get what your saying....... Sounds good so___ far...
But let me be sure i understand.... are you saying that ven was sealed in sora or at least his soul not his heart so when sora stabbed his heart it let ven out making roxas???
Nope.

_Sora-kid is walking on da beach.

____Ven´s heart is sealed inside Sora-kid´s heart

_______Now Sora-kid grows up to Sora. He has Ven sealed inside.

_____________Then Kairi´s heart ends up inside Sora.

__________________Then Sora stabs himself. His heart is unlocked.

_____________Sora´s heart was like a prison to Ven´s heart.

________These are created: Sora-Heartless, Naminé, Roxas.

____Ven´s heart takes Roxas´s body and soul under his command.

_Roxas is Sora´s soul and body + Ven´s heart. Ven makes Roxas look like him.

Ven´s heart makes Roxas to become Ven himself. Roxas has Ven´s personality and fighting-style. Roxas is Ven in a new body and Soul.

I KNOW THIS IS PRETTY CONFUSING. ONCE YOU UNDERSTAND THIS, IT IS QUITE SIMPLE. ;)
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but still, in order for that to happen the heart would have to be pure beyond average. The heart unlocker unlocks hearts specifically of the purest returning to its vessels, meaning Vens heart would either try to find his original body, another host, or just return to KH. Sora regained his heart, and Roxas had his body. To use Roxas body as a vessel seems plausible but if that were true upon returning to Sora he would just be sealed up again. Either that, or Sora will again have two hearts
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Old 02/26/08, 01:06 PM   #39
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but still, in order for that to happen the heart would have to be pure beyond average. The heart unlocker unlocks hearts specifically of the purest returning to its vessels, meaning Vens heart would either try to find his original body, another host, or just return to KH. Sora regained his heart, and Roxas had his body. To use Roxas body as a vessel seems plausible but if that were true upon returning to Sora he would just be sealed up again. Either that, or Sora will again have two hearts
Roxas(=Ven) is inside Sora as different person. Sora has two hearts inside.
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i think sora riku and kairi is reincarnation of terra ven and aqua, maybe they dead after battle whit 2 bad man i thiNk !
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Old 02/26/08, 01:26 PM   #41
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lol Ven form. i am kinda going with this theory since i havn't seen anything better about Ven
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Old 02/26/08, 01:28 PM   #42
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i think sora riku and kairi is reincarnation of terra ven and aqua, maybe they dead after battle whit 2 bad man i thiNk !
that is too random. riku was there ven V.A.T. was.
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Old 02/26/08, 01:43 PM   #43
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Hmm... Yeah I agree what you mean, Yannis. I think Roxas and Ven must be related.
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Old 02/26/08, 01:49 PM   #44
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Hmm... Yeah I agree what you mean, Yannis. I think Roxas and Ven must be related.
Im not saying that they are related, it is far more closer connection ;)



{VEN´S HEART}+ {SORA´S BODY & SOUL}= VEN a.k.a. ROXAS


ROXAS IS VEN, VEN IS ROXAS, ROXAS IS SORA, VEN IS SORA THE CONFUSEMENT!!!!MAUAHAHAHAHAHAHAH



VEN & ROXAS ARE THE SAME PERSON

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Old 02/26/08, 02:00 PM   #45
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Im not saying that they are related, it is far more closer connection ;)



{VENīS HEART}+ {SORAīS BODY & SOUL}= VEN a.k.a. ROXAS


ROXAS IS VEN, VEN IS ROXAS, ROXAS IS SORA, VEN IS SORA THE CONFUSEMENT!!!!MAUAHAHAHAHAHAHAH



VEN & ROXAS ARE THE SAME PERSON
1. Roxas is Sora as confirmed by KH2.
2. Nomura adressed Ven and Roxas separate people.
3. Ven's heart couldn't be in Roxas. Not possible and makes no sense.
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