\\I think I know why Roxas looks like Ven!//

[Prince of Heart]

Originally Posted by Yannis

I think they are identical, RIku could even imitate Ansem´s voice, but also his own..

Im talking about the form, when RIku was Ansem in kh2.

Here you see, when RIku becomes Ansem:
YouTube - KH2:FM+ - New Scene - Riku Vs. Roxas in TWTNW (subbed)

notice that RIku actually says that "I have to become Someone else"

I know which Ansem you are talking about.. but i thought that scene, Riku is using power of darkness to become Ansem? I dunno then, i do not know much about that, correct me if im wrong.

[Yannis]

Originally Posted by Prince of Heart

I know which Ansem you are talking about.. but i thought that scene, Riku is using power of darkness to become Ansem? I dunno then, i do not know much about that, correct me if im wrong.

Ansem is sealed in his heart and in this scene, he frees Ansem and becomes Him.

Ven might be sealed in Sora´s heart, but when he unlocks it with Heart Unlocker, Ven ends up as Roxas..

[King Mario]

I understand what you're saying Yannis, but I think what Riku meant about becoming Ansem is that he'll take Ansem's form

Ven and Roxas are two diffent people, it has been confiremed.

And if Sora had Ven's heart inside him, wouldn't he creat three nobodies instead of two after he stabbed himself in KH1?

[Prince of Heart]

Originally Posted by Yannis

Ansem is sealed in his heart and in this scene, he frees Ansem and becomes Him.

Ven might be sealed in Sora´s heart, but when he unlocks it with Heart Unlocker, Ven ends up as Roxas..

Oh. Is that? My bad. ^.^
U mean like Ven become part of Sora' heart? and when Sora release his heart, Roxas whom look alot like Ven being created.?

[Yannis]

Originally Posted by King Mario

I understand what you're saying Yannis, but I think what Riku meant about becoming Ansem is that he'll take Ansem's form

Well, if you have played CoM, you know that Riku didnt beat Ansem. Ansem was still inside his heart.

In the scene that I showed, he frees Ansem.

You sure know when RIku gots Kairi´s keyblade when he shuts his eyes and remembers a long lost memory. I think it was Xehanort´s memory..one thing to be revealed..

Originally Posted by King Mario

Ven and Roxas are two diffent people, it has been confiremed.

I dont believe this thing. Links please?

Originally Posted by King Mario

And if Sora had Ven's heart inside him, wouldn't he creat three nobodies instead of two after he stabbed himself in KH1?

Ven´s heart isnt kinda inside. It is like Ansem inside Riku.

Oh. Is that? My bad. ^.^
U mean like Ven become part of Sora' heart? and when Sora release his heart, Roxas whom look alot like Ven being created.?

Well, Roxas was supposed to look more like Sora, but Ven was released when Sora stabbed himself, so Roxas took Ven´s form. hahah it is funny I think.. well, VEN IS DEAD, if u really think it. But it is rly a matter of opinions. Like thinking Ansem is alive in KH2..

[King Mario]

Originally Posted by Yannis

Well, if you have played CoM, you know that Riku didnt beat Ansem. Ansem was still inside his heart.

In the scene that I showed, he frees Ansem.

You sure know when RIku gots Kairi´s keyblade when he shuts his eyes and remembers a long lost memory. I think it was Xehanort´s memory..one thing to be revealed..

Well both Riku and Sora had someone elses heart inside of them so I think that's why they were both able see Xehanort and Kairi's memories

Originally Posted by Yannis

I dont believe this thing. Links please?

I think I remembered reading an interveiw that said somehing like this, I searched for it now, but I couldn't find.

Originally Posted by Yannis

Ven´s heart isnt kinda inside. It is like Ansem inside Riku.

How inside can a heart be?

Originally Posted by Yannis

Well, Roxas was supposed to look more like Sora, but Ven was released when Sora stabbed himself, so Roxas took Ven´s form. hahah it is funny I think.. well, VEN IS DEAD, if u really think it. But it is rly a matter of opinions. Like thinking Ansem is alive in KH2..

I repeat. If Sora had Ven's hart inside of him, he would have created three nobodies not just two.

[Cloudless Sky]

Originally Posted by Yannis

You know.. Riku looks like Ansem in KH2. He had Xehanort´s heart(=Ansem) inside him, right? Then he became Ansem himself, riiight??

Well, maybe Ven´s heart ended up in Sora, like Xehanort´s ended up in Riku. Then when Roxas became into existence, he became Ven. He has even his own personality, while most of nobodies even in organization are very dispersonal.

Roxas was uninformed about him being a nobody, so he couldnt act emotion. Just remembering moment when Roxas´ firedns has marbles, but he doesnt. He goes very sad.

ROXAS IS VEN, in same way that RIKU IS ANSEM.

Im very confident about this. If you have seen my other theory about Roxas saying; "She/he said, that she/he has seen me before.", I think he talked about 14th member who has connection to Aqua. So 14th remembers Ven.

Any thoughts?

Riku really looks like Ven but Riku didn't looks like Ansem for me

[Prince of Heart]

Originally Posted by Cloudless Sky

Riku really looks like Ven but Riku didn't looks like Ansem for me

Do you mean Roxas look like Ven....? >.>

[Cloudless Sky]

Originally Posted by Prince of Heart

Do you mean Roxas look like Ven....? >.>

[color="Blue"]Ya >_<
My bad for mention wrongly Riku and Roxas name... wakakaka... Don't mind

[Yannis]

Originally Posted by King Mario

Well both Riku and Sora had someone elses heart inside of them so I think that's why they were both able see Xehanort and Kairi's memories.

Yes.

Originally Posted by King Mario

I think I remembered reading an interveiw that said somehing like this, I searched for it now, but I couldn't find..

You remember wrong or it was a fake. Nomura has actually revealed himself, that Ven is Roxas. They are same person.

Originally Posted by King Mario

How inside can a heart be?.

ehh..im not sure if I understand you, but heart needs a vessel always. It doesnt matter if the vessel is human-body or darkness..

Originally Posted by King Mario

I repeat. If Sora had Ven's hart inside of him, he would have created three nobodies not just two.

Why in the Ven´s sake?? Only Ven´s heart is inside Sora. Not his body and soul. So no another nobody. There is Roxas who has Ven´s heart, meaning that HE IS VEN USING SORA´S BODY AND SOUL AS VESSEL.

[one wing angel]

Originally Posted by Yannis

You know.. Riku looks like Ansem in KH2. He had Xehanort´s heart(=Ansem) inside him, right? Then he became Ansem himself, riiight??

Well, maybe Ven´s heart ended up in Sora, like Xehanort´s ended up in Riku. Then when Roxas became into existence, he became Ven. He has even his own personality, while most of nobodies even in organization are very dispersonal.

Roxas was uninformed about him being a nobody, so he couldnt act emotion. Just remembering moment when Roxas´ firedns has marbles, but he doesnt. He goes very sad.

ROXAS IS VEN, in same way that RIKU IS ANSEM.

Im very confident about this. If you have seen my other theory about Roxas saying; "She/he said, that she/he has seen me before.", I think he talked about 14th member who has connection to Aqua. So 14th remembers Ven.

Any thoughts?

it is an interesting theory but.......how many hearts can one person hold at a time? i mean how long would sora have had ven's heart? if it goes as far back as KH1 then this means sora had like three hearts inside him also wouldn't the hearts have been released when sora unlocked his heart. however sora having a second keyblade wielders heart could explain how he is able to use two keyblades. it is a very interesting theory i too am gonna rep ya for it

[Yannis]

Originally Posted by one wing angel

it is an interesting theory but.......how many hearts can one person hold at a time? i mean how long would sora have had ven's heart? if it goes as far back as KH1 then this means sora had like three hearts inside him also wouldn't the hearts have been released when sora unlocked his heart. however sora having a second keyblade wielders heart could explain how he is able to use two keyblades. it is a very interesting theory i too am gonna rep ya for it

Well, IM NOT GOOD EXPLAINING THINGS, but Im saying that Ven is like Ansem.

Ansem inside Riku = Ven inside Sora/Roxas

Ven´s power was released like Riku released Ansem´s power. But Roxas didnt release Ven by his own will. Ven got released by Heart Unlocker -keyblade.

"A Sealed Tale oF Truth", lol

Ven was sealed inside Sora´s heart..Ven inside Sora is not identical to Kairi inside Sora.

[one wing angel]

i understand i was just exploring the angles that's all still it's a good theory and better than any we've heard so far

[*~NeoAdamus~*]

lemme just say that to a certain degree this makes no sense.

Riku in no way looks like Ansem, and other than that you are right that Ansem was inside Riku, he needed a shell to form his body but Riku prevailed, and by the lingering darkness in his heart, Ansem was able to reconnect with the world once more and although he was defeated he was still connected to Rikus darkness. When Riku fought Roxas he had to unleash his full pRower of darkness. If u didn't know, when you use or reside with darkness long enough that darkness can overcome. Darkness being Ansem, in that expense Riku became Ansem when he used darkness to its extent.

As for Ven, that's a whole different story. If Vens heart resided in Sora then Sora at the beginning would have stored three hearts. For that to happen Ven would have to be of the purest hearts much more he would have to be of some similarity to the princesses of heart.

Ansem was able to take over Riku in the connection of Darkness while Kairi heart was able to manifest in Sora being that as a princess of heart, her heart was to pure to create a nobody thus the heart searching for a host. I see a similarity between Ansem and Kairi but as for Ven....where does he fit in the picture. Roxas was the result of Sora becoming a heartless, which is not a transformation if your trying to compare it to Ansem and Riku. If you add all this Xehanort and Xemnas would have to have some influence in aswell. Ven and Roxas are two different ppl plain and simple, Roxas is a nobody, Ven is a whole being. For this, 3 nobodies would have to make an appearance from Sora. Ven is connected to Sora and that's all that is known as of now

[PostMentalFerocity]

No, Ven's hearts didn't go into Sora.