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[*TwilightNight*]

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.:. OLD THREAD (The Axel Fanclub 2.0) .:.


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Axel (アクセル, Akuseru)
Number VIII
"Flurry of Dancing Flames" (おどる火の風, "Odoru Hi no Kaze", lit. "Wind Of Dancing Flames")


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"Kioku shita ka"

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"Got it memorized?"


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*TwilightNight*


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1. *TwilightNight*	2. Axel_#_8	3. Sephy-kun	4. xobybr	5. sorafan1203
6. Organization_42	7. Solareon	8. Crimson	9. SchemerXFlames	10. Axel_FODF
11. pinkchan831	12. Seiramu	13. Ricochet!	14. KAIRI_SUX	15. Sora_Rox_My_Sox
16. Midnight Star	17. -lol-	18. Namimaru	19. Choc	20. madammina
21. Araliya	22. Smile	23. mmbiglolz	24. obivion keyblade	25. pokepotterkhkids
26. Berry	27. xXGrimmjowXx	28. cloudxxzach	29. Papou	30. AxeltheFlame
31. Laliani	32. Lestat	33. ~~Lyric Angel~~	34. The Lionheart	35. Naryx15
36. Apasstrife	37. DJQQ	38. DownInFlames	39. impart-distart	40. Diasty
41. Secret7thNote	42. Sora/Riku/Kairi	43. HeartOfTheHero	44. Keeper of Memory	45. Ckandid
46. Rabgix	47. Axelfan911	48. King Hearts	49. -+zackdabomb+-	50. miha
51. Axelfangirl101	52. XXXKHloverXXX	53. khlover7	54. ROXAS NOT SORA	55. Traskix
56. AngelRoxas	57. aqualight	58. xXChilly MissXx	59. Naximi	60. Teiku 5
61. Skye	62. Zexilicious	63. Sleeping Rebirth	64. aswaxsora	65. Xyanea
66. AxelRoxasFan223	67. Axel's_inferno	68. OceanLovesRoxas	69. thylings	70. nobodiesguard
71. Hollow Light	72. GotItMemorized?	73. deathteller	74. DecentPrincess	75. Zeagal
76. 13courtgarud75	77. RoseateDawn	78. Gildragon	79. Sea salt Aisu	80. miss.roxas
81. RoxasAi	82. saku1992	83. Axel of Ice	84. Xorbok	85. KH!

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(reasons as to why we like him as made by our members!)

1. He's HAWT ♥. Look at that banner.
2. Quinton Flynn as a AWESOME voice actor = Axel is awesome.
3. His sarcastic attitude is hilarious when pitted against most of the other characters.
4. The fight with Marluxia was cool.
5. Pluto likes him. A lot.
6. Everyone likes him. A lot.
7. His sacrifice.
8. The unending and infamous catchphrase until our ears bleed, "Got it memorized?"
9. His friendship/bromance with Roxas.
10. His need for a Heart.
11. Based off of Reno, who is cool, like him.
12. Only member to apologize to Sora about a wrong.
13. A wild card.
14. Saves Naminé from Saïx, and bonds with her.
15. He makes an awesome nanny for Roxas and Xion.


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KHII_Hit my heart if you can by *HakkyouHime on deviantART
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(song links are on song title)

1. Circle Of Fire - Tempo
2. Burning Bright - Shinedown
3. Jumper - Third Eye Blind
4. Why Should I Worry? - Billy Joel [Dodger]
5. Boulevard of Broken Dreams - Green Day
6. Into The Fire - Thirteen Senses
7. What I've Done - Linkin Park
8. Faint - Linkin Park
9. The Adventure - Angels & Airwaves
10. Runaway Train - Busted
11. Stop And Stare - OneRepublic


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YouTube - The War is Over ~ Axel {AudioSwap}

[KAIRI_SUX]

can i join??? I love Axel!

[*TwilightNight*]

Originally Posted by KAIRI_SUX

can i join??? I love Axel!

Wow, that was fast xD.

Sure thing, YOU'RE IN *goes to add*

[KAIRI_SUX]

new opportunities r always good

[*TwilightNight*]

Originally Posted by KAIRI_SUX

new opportunities r always good

Indeed :P.

Glad you joined the group. Why don't you reply to the topic question in the first post to start? ^^ At least it could start something xP.

[Organization_42]

Yay, it has returned!! :thumbsup:

I see you added a new section for Axel songs. Gosh, I know I've heard songs that seem to just scream "Axel" but I can't think of any off the top of my head.

And I already posted my favorite Axel pairings in the old club, but I'll repost it for discussion and the new members' benefit:

I have a few favorite pairings. Larxene/Axel is starting to really grow on me, but only in fanfiction when their relationship is more fleshed out. In Chain of Memories I felt like she was trying to toy with him, and that she'd do the same thing to the next hot guy walking down the street. Meanwhile, Axel actually jerked his head away slightly when she touched his chin, and it seemed like he wanted no part to it. Their relationship just seemed so cold compared to other pairings. But, as I said, they're growing on me. For now, I only like them in fanon.

Now, after saying all that, this next pairing is going to seem completely crazy, but I really enjoy crack pairings. Ready? Axel/Aerith. I know it sounds weird, but think about it. While Larxene matches his personality in terms of snark and cold sarcasm, Aerith is the a polar opposite- but in a good way. She'd be to Axel what Namine could be for Roxas: a calm, soothing presence. Yet she's shown a few times that she's no pushover. I think she'd be gentle with him but wouldn't let him walk all over her at the same time. They also have something in common: the desire to help/protect their friends. Aerith's just more selfless about it.

In a weird way, I think they could work.

Though I swear *TwilightNight*, you're turning me to the Dark Side. I was playing CoM the other day, and I reached the part where Axel and Larxene are having their little chat. And I was perfectly fine with those 2-D graphics until I noticed the appalling lack of Larxel flirting in that scene...gah, I still say it doesn't work in canon!!

[Sora_Rox_My_Sox]

ZOMG HE IS CUTE!
lulz
sign me up, i shall pledge my soul

[Szayel Aporro]

Whee! I've been added!
I luffles teh Akuseru-kun!
*huggles plushie*

[*TwilightNight*]

Originally Posted by Organization_42

Though I swear *TwilightNight*, you're turning me to the Dark Side. I was playing CoM the other day, and I reached the part where Axel and Larxene are having their little chat. And I was perfectly fine with those 2-D graphics until I noticed the appalling lack of Larxel flirting in that scene...gah, I still say it doesn't work in canon!!

Yes, yeeeeeees, my pretty. Turn into the dark side. BWUAHAH >D....

.....

BWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!


You should've seen what I wanted to do with the opening, other than add a new section, but the limit on images didn't let me D:. It sucks.

Originally Posted by Sora_Rox_My_Sox

ZOMG HE IS CUTE!
lulz
sign me up, i shall pledge my soul

YOU'RE IN.

That's like, the 16th, yay.

We shall all pledge our souls 8D.

I wanna fangirl over Axel too, damn it! YES. HE IS SO HOT!! Man, I'm going to post random pictures of him soon, just to wreck his club with Axel...ness. And...I want a Axel plushie T-T. Does anyone have a real Axel plushie? I wanna. I'm going to steal yours, Musical Muffin. Heeheehee.

>D

Different Matter Entirely
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Originally Posted by Organization_42

Ok, I see what you're saying. Though Luxord would probably fall under that category too.

Then put him there. I just listed what was in the top of my head before ^^.

See, while I don't work for Square, so I can't be sure, I think that's the whole idea. Promote Roxas and Axel, because everyone already knows who they are and what their relationship is, then show the rest of the Organization, get people excited because we get to see their side of the story...and oh yeah, there's going to be a 14th member. Wait, WHAT?! OMG!

By promoting Axel and Roxas, you get fans excited without really spoiling any details about the game. Now that they've gotten everyone's attention and the game is getting closer to its release, they can start dropping hints about Xion. Who is starting to grow on me, btw.

On the topic of Saix, we did see something from the first trailer descriptions that I actually found intriguing. That whole exchange when he told Axel to eliminate the traitors at Castle Oblivion, and Axel asked him if those were really Xemnas' orders. It made me wonder just what Saix was up to, and that he's not as fiercely loyal to the Organization as he makes himself out to be. I wonder, if things had been different and he began doubting Xemnas, if he wouldn't have gone down the same road as Axel. Because Axel was pretty loyal to the Organization too, even after Roxas first left. It seems that they were both more loyal to the idea of getting their hearts back than they ever were to Xemnas. They just had different methods of trying to get it back.

I would think that was alright in the beginning, but now it just keeps going and going, with his face plastered every page you turn for whatever damn reason is there. If they can go as far to reveal some things about Xion that they did, then I see no problem about showing other members doing and interacting that will catch other's interests more, and not "spoil" anything. The only thing that was interesting that focused on someone other than the glorious Axel, was Saïx, and the scene that you now mentioned (which, lo and behold, has Axel in it), considering it puts the mysteries of Castle Oblivion more in perspective. The next scene is of Xaldin, who is talking to both Axel and Roxas, and then he gets his own picture with him alone on Beast's castle. That's about it. And you're talking about the Organization members? Where? You mean, in only those little gameplay boxes with their tiny faces on the side and them fighting? No interaction at all with Xion presented? Of course, not to mention, with the CoM members still scrapped and no sign of them? AT ALL.

This is only promotion, so I have yet to truly complain, and the chance that it will be awesome for the other members is still in store. It just better go through with it, or else this would only make what I say fact, and I don't want it to, for many reasons involved. I'm not looking forward to disappointment.

I was really half-joking when I said that, I mean, Axel's nowhere near as iconic a character as Jack is. Everyone knows who Jack is, even if you've never seen Pirates of the Caribbean. But you'd have to play Kingdom Hearts or know a fan in order to know who Axel is.

Actually, when I saw the first Pirates of the Caribbean movie, I remember how surprised I was when I realized that Jack wasn't the main focus of the story. The way they promoted the DVD and wrote the summary, I assumed that it was all about Jack trying to get his ship back, with Will joining him because he wanted to help Elizabeth. But it was the other way around: Will was the one chasing after the Black Pearl to save Elizabeth, and Jack joined him to get his ship back.

Jack was never supposed to be the main character. He was a trickster with the role of Obi-Wan and Han Solo mashed into one. But once the media saw how much audiences liked him, he took on a life of his own.

Dead Man's Chest admittedly had a lot to do with Jack, but At World's End spent a lot of time with the other characters, mainly because there were so many characters that needed time in the spot light. He really did take a back seat in that movie. They really do promote him like crazy, but when you take time to really watch the movies, you find that it's not all about him.

I'm holding out the hope that it'll be the same for Axel and 358/2 Days. It helps that the game is Roxas' story. We control him, and I'm sure he isn't with Axel 24/7. We saw with the single-player mode that he goes on missions with other members too, like Xaldin.

Thank goodness you were half-joking. And considering that Jack was pasted on the front with Will and Elizabeth behind him in the first movie posters and all (and still does in others after it), before the crowd got a really good reaction, it pits me to say that the company and the board are contradicting themselves here. I doubt they didn't build Jack to be the popular character if they appear prepared for it. Especially as Jack's most appearances in scenes altogether is in the first movie. A lot in the second, but not as much as the first. And in the third, yes, he took a back seat for other characters to shine, something that Nomura isn't willing to do, apparently, so that's where similarities end.

But is also good to note, that the third movie ends with Jack, and proclaiming a new adventure, if another sequel will be done. I don't know much of PotC concerning the creators intake, yet it looks to be main character to me, just not as obvious, and more of the anti-hero. The fact is, Jack is more important and plot driven than Axel is, and isn't part of 10 other members that are left behind, and are suppose to be the main antagonists (PotC even did it better with their villains). So, at least, the attention he gets is worth it on his scale, since he directly connects to Will and Liz, and it resembles the main MAIN trio that is Sora, Kairi, and Riku of KH, and what the films focus on.

With some examples placed above with the scans, and the fact that Axel is to teach and direct Roxas, as well as building the friendship along the way, I say close , and the remaining hours on other members (I'm not even going to mention the CoM members, they don't exist, so far). The way it is looking now anyway, yet I know I'm exaggerating xD. He still had CoM and KH2, the Novels, and probably KH3 on his sleeves, even confirmed of returning to be whole, so that still places him above the rest. 358/2 Days is to add even more scenes of him to the list for a more greater extent, now that is about Roxas. Hell, what else of Xemnas too? And I don't mean Xehanort, Xemnas.

But less people are going to care if Axel and Roxas were best friends if we were only just introduced to Axel in that game. They really weren't in the game that much, as opposed to Sora's friendship with Riku and Kairi being the driving force of KH1. In terms of story, I think it's more emotional to see a once cold, manipulative character caring about someone than a new character that we don't know anything about.

Then how come people came to care about Roxas if he only showed in KH2 with limited scenes, ranging only from the beginning, and not only become attached to him, claim him to be most of people's favorite character, even rivaling Sora at times? It could be done. There wasn't a need for more screentime and more hogging. KH has a way to tangle things up to make viewers feel, and this was no exception for Axel. As for that last sentence, that is opinion oriented, because for some, CoM and KH2 Axel are complelely different people, to the point where some say he was bad@ss in CoM, liked him better there, and then became such a wuss in KH2, and how odd it was to suddenly have him switch up. There was no branch there, so I doubt that's what made the gamers curious. That's two different people, and two different roles that could've been filled by others.

It would've been better to make Axel pop up with Roxas when the kid was actually in the game, and we see his connections and friendships, if Axel was suppose to be his best friend, and Roxas was to be on Sora's level, just in another side, another story (pun intended). That is, before the creators and Nomura decided that they liked and favored Axel, made a excuse to fit him into the plot better, and make him live after CoM. And then, when 358/2 Days will or will not come, they could explore the friendship more, and it be the same way of Sora and Riku. That will be enough.

No kidding. His death was very dramatic and sad. Honestly, I love all the members, because I think they all had something to bring to the story, even if they didn't all get much screentime. So I'm very happy to see more of Axel, just as I'm happy to see more of the other members in 358/2 Days.

I can see why you'd be sick of all the attention he's getting, I just don't think it will affect the game's storyline that much. Case in point: KH2. When you think about it, Axel got only a bit more screentime than Riku, Kairi, Roxas, or Namine. It was all about Sora, Donald, and Goofy.

I didn't find his death so dramatic and sad, really. I found Jack's death in the Titanic tear-worthy than that. Not to mention, the fact that he died sacrificing himself to kill a bunch of Dusks when Sora defeated 1,000 Heartless before, and also sounds kind of gay there doesn't help matters (he's not, but, really, look at the lines he spews. It's things like this that make AkuRoku rabid). Harnesses sadness, but not that deeply. I felt more for Saïx's death, which is saying something, considering he was cold and ruthless for the most part. At least, that was my reaction anyway.

More screentime than Riku, Kairi, Roxas, and Naminé, who have MORE to do with the plot and the future games than he does? That's enough whoring for me, if he's put above others that matter in such a limited timed game. And it won't affect the storyline as much, because, as said, he's just a side character as the rest of the members, and yet he gets it all. And most of his pop ups are random to boot after Roxas's TT.

I don't really hate/dislike Axel fully for this, if not what he did in CoM more, because is not really his fault that his redheaded pixel is used so much. But him being that character, it gets irritating, because it feels like he's being pushed down our throats half the time. Kind of the same way they tried to "develop" Kairi in KH2, appearing too forced, in my opinion.

But yes, I am sick D: (if my replies weren't clues). I love the guy and all, but really. I need a break, or I Will end up getting tired of him.

If 358/2 Days doesn't deliver what should be, Nomura is going to be totured. That's like my only hope for him, and is shining bright in some sort of faith.

[Organization_42]

Originally Posted by *TwilightNight*

Yes, yeeeeeees, my pretty. Turn into the dark side. BWUAHAH >D....

Nooooooooo!!! *runs and hides*

Originally Posted by *TwilightNight*

You should've seen what I wanted to do with the opening, other than add a new section, but the limit on images didn't let me D:. It sucks.

That does suck. Oh well, it looks great the way it is.

Originally Posted by *TwilightNight*

And you're talking about the Organization members? Where? You mean, in only those little gameplay boxes with their tiny faces on the side and them fighting? No interaction at all with Xion presented? Of course, not to mention, with the CoM members still scrapped and no sign of them? AT ALL.

There's the scene where Xemnas introduces Xion:

The white room where Organization members gather.
Xemnas: "Ladies and gentleman, today is a day that should be commemorated."
Xemnas: "A new member has joined us."
Xemnas: "...It is the 14th."

Xemnas' taste for theatrics really cracks me up!

Saix tells Roxas to "be careful" in the Jump Festa trailer...ok, that's not huge, but we also saw him in the pic when Axel said he'd be in charge of Roxas' education. It sounds like they were both giving him the de-briefing. And Xigbar hinted in KH2 that he knew Roxas pretty well, when he told Sora, "He used to give me that same exact look!"

Ok, so it's not a lot, but still...

Originally Posted by *TwilightNight*

This is only promotion, so I have yet to truly complain, and the chance that it will be awesome for the other members is still in store. It just better go through with it, or else this would only make what I say fact, and I don't want it to, for many reasons involved. I'm not looking forward to disappointment.

I really thought they had stepped back from promoting Axel in the latest scans/trailers. It was all about Xion, and the only scene we saw of Axel was related to Xion. They also got to play a demo with him, but you could also choose to play with Xaldin.

Originally Posted by *TwilightNight*

Thank goodness you were half-joking. And considering that Jack was pasted on the front with Will and Elizabeth behind him in the first movie posters and all (and still does in others after it), before the crowd got a really good reaction, it pits me to say that the company and the board are contradicting themselves here.

But that's not how the screenwriters originally intended it to be, at least if I got their commentary right in the first movie. One of them said that nobody seemed to realize that Elizabeth was the protagonist of the story, not Jack.

So, in a way, I know how you feel. I love Jack, but I get sick of him getting all the attention. If you didn't watch the movies, you would never know that Will and Elizabeth are just as, if not more so, important to the story. Just look at what happened in KH2. I was happy with Jack's character; I thought they had him down perfectly. But Will and Liz? Oh no, they just magically disappeared every time a battle showed up, under the guise that they had never seen Heartless before. And that's completely opposite from the way they behave in the movies. It would've been better if, when Liz was getting kidnapped, Sora had just said, "You go after your friend, and we'll take care of these guys!" That would've fit Will's character better.

But I digress. This is the Axel Fan Club, not the Captain Jack Sparrow Fan Club.

Originally Posted by *TwilightNight*

Then how come people came to care about Roxas if he only showed in KH2 with limited scenes, ranging only from the beginning, and not only become attached to him, claim him to be most of people's favorite character, even rivaling Sora at times?

Ah, true. And now I've gone and contradicted myself, seeing as how Demyx is tied with Sora as my favorite character, and he had...what? Two, three scenes? YAY FOR DEMYX! (Maybe I should start a fan club for him...)

Originally Posted by *TwilightNight*

It would've been better to make Axel pop up with Roxas when the kid was actually in the game, and we see his connections and friendships, if Axel was suppose to be his best friend, and Roxas was to be on Sora's level, just in another side, another story (pun intended). That is, before the creators and Nomura decided that they liked and favored Axel, made a excuse to fit him into the plot better, and make him live after CoM. And then, when 358/2 Days will or will not come, they could explore the friendship more, and it be the same way of Sora and Riku. That will be enough.

Good point. But I do think it makes their friendship more interesting when Axel used to be such a loyal member, and it makes his dilemna worse. He was so used to serving the Organization without a second thought, as Xaldin pointed out when giving him the order to kill Roxas, and then this just threw him. It adds tension, and we, the gamers, have a better time understanding just how dramatic of a change it was.

Originally Posted by *TwilightNight*

I didn't find his death so dramatic and sad, really. I found Jack's death in the Titanic tear-worthy than that. Not to mention, the fact that he died sacrificing himself to kill a bunch of Dusks when Sora defeated 1,000 Heartless before, and also sounds kind of gay there doesn't help matters (he's not, but, really, look at the lines he spews. It's things like this that make AkuRoku rabid). Harnesses sadness, but not that deeply. I felt more for Saïx's death, which is saying something, considering he was cold and ruthless for the most part. At least, that was my reaction anyway.

There were a lot more than just a few Dusks, and they just kept coming. And Sora wasn't going to leave him behind, so he had to do something.

Meh, I still say it was all brotherly love at the most!

Originally Posted by *TwilightNight*

I don't really hate/dislike Axel fully for this, if not what he did in CoM more, because is not really his fault that his redheaded pixel is used so much. But him being that character, it gets irritating, because it feels like he's being pushed down our throats half the time. Kind of the same way they tried to "develop" Kairi in KH2, appearing too forced, in my opinion.

But yes, I am sick D: (if my replies weren't clues). I love the guy and all, but really. I need a break, or I Will end up getting tired of him.

Yeah, same with me and Jack Sparrow. But I haven't gotten tired of Axel yet, so I don't feel that frustrated.

I think he'll probably be to Roxas what Donald and Goofy are to Sora throughout the games. He'll be with Roxas a lot, but not all the time, and the story will not be focused on him. I think his main role will just be Roxas' ally.

[*TwilightNight*]

Originally Posted by Organization_42

Nooooooooo!!! *runs and hides*

*grabs her and chains to wall to continue brainwashing*

>D

By the way, what scene was that? The one where they converse about the Heart?

That does suck. Oh well, it looks great the way it is.

Thanks. I took out of my way to decorate as best I could without pictures, or making it feel too cramped. If only I could use PhotoShop T-T.

Xemnas' taste for theatrics really cracks me up!

Saix tells Roxas to "be careful" in the Jump Festa trailer...ok, that's not huge, but we also saw him in the pic when Axel said he'd be in charge of Roxas' education. It sounds like they were both giving him the de-briefing. And Xigbar hinted in KH2 that he knew Roxas pretty well, when he told Sora, "He used to give me that same exact look!"

Ok, so it's not a lot, but still...

Not to mention, that he mispells. Is suppose to be gentlemen, instead of gentleman. And there are no "Ladies" in the Organization. Only a Lady, as there's one by that point, and he's just introducing the other.

Oh noes! D: He's un-grammar oriented.

Two other members other than Axel, in total, and only two scenes of them each (Saïx having one more). Is kind of sad that is this way.

I really thought they had stepped back from promoting Axel in the latest scans/trailers. It was all about Xion, and the only scene we saw of Axel was related to Xion. They also got to play a demo with him, but you could also choose to play with Xaldin.

It's about Xion, mostly, and the rest is filled with Axel and Roxas (who is understandable), with screens of gameplay, and a bit of Naminé and Riku.

Axel's face is still plastered xD.

But that's not how the screenwriters originally intended it to be, at least if I got their commentary right in the first movie. One of them said that nobody seemed to realize that Elizabeth was the protagonist of the story, not Jack.

So, in a way, I know how you feel. I love Jack, but I get sick of him getting all the attention. If you didn't watch the movies, you would never know that Will and Elizabeth are just as, if not more so, important to the story. Just look at what happened in KH2. I was happy with Jack's character; I thought they had him down perfectly. But Will and Liz? Oh no, they just magically disappeared every time a battle showed up, under the guise that they had never seen Heartless before. And that's completely opposite from the way they behave in the movies. It would've been better if, when Liz was getting kidnapped, Sora had just said, "You go after your friend, and we'll take care of these guys!" That would've fit Will's character better.

But I digress. This is the Axel Fan Club, not the Captain Jack Sparrow Fan Club.

They say that nobody seemed to realize that Liz is the protagonist, and yet, they watch the movie, and pretend that it's not them who are the problem, being the creators and all? Not only that, they didn't bother to tone it down until the last movie.

You got tired of Jack? T-T OMG, it happens. I'm about to break now (then again, I used to be a Sora fangirl, and now I switched to Axel and Roxas, though I'm not a fangirl of Roxas precisely. I just like him better than Sora). But, to give credit, the producers or creators had nothing to do with KH2's dynamic...? >.> It proves Enix/Nomura's habit of focusing on one, popular character too much, doesn't it?

Someone should create a Jack Sparrow Fanclub then xD. Lol.

Ah, true. And now I've gone and contradicted myself, seeing as how Demyx is tied with Sora as my favorite character, and he had...what? Two, three scenes? YAY FOR DEMYX! (Maybe I should start a fan club for him...)

Ah, yes! How could I forget Demyx-kun!

Good point. But I do think it makes their friendship more interesting when Axel used to be such a loyal member, and it makes his dilemna worse. He was so used to serving the Organization without a second thought, as Xaldin pointed out when giving him the order to kill Roxas, and then this just threw him. It adds tension, and we, the gamers, have a better time understanding just how dramatic of a change it was.

I think the Novels and FM+ can cover that well. Not as deeply, but at least tells us his situation.

There were a lot more than just a few Dusks, and they just kept coming. And Sora wasn't going to leave him behind, so he had to do something.

Meh, I still say it was all brotherly love at the most!

Yeah. but the Heartless was a ARMY. Taking up the whole ground vacinity of those canyons. Compare that to Betwixt And Between.

That's why I stick to Roxas lovin' (brotherly), and maybe just him having nothing to live for. Makes more sense that way, but still kind of ruined his death scene for me.

Yeah, same with me and Jack Sparrow. But I haven't gotten tired of Axel yet, so I don't feel that frustrated.

I think he'll probably be to Roxas what Donald and Goofy are to Sora throughout the games. He'll be with Roxas a lot, but not all the time, and the story will not be focused on him. I think his main role will just be Roxas' ally.

You mean, there's a chance you'll get tired of Axel? D:

As for that, we'll just have to see. That doesn't really change the screentime he gets, though.

[Saíx's Ducky x)]

Hello? *peeks from the door* is this the infamous axel fanclub? I hope i've come to the right place ^^
I was wondering if there is any room for me...Coz i luv axel so so so so much, no i don't just luv him i adore him..*looks up with puppy dog eyes* pleaze...

[Organization_42]

Originally Posted by *TwilightNight*

*grabs her and chains to wall to continue brainwashing*

>D

*chants* Axel/Aerith, Axel/Aerith, Axel/Aerith...

I will NOT give in to peer pressure! *breaks free* Run! Run away!

Originally Posted by *TwilightNight*

By the way, what scene was that? The one where they converse about the Heart?

The one right before Larxene goes to fight Sora.

Originally Posted by *TwilightNight*;3244606Not to mention, that he mispells. Is suppose to be gentle[I

men[/i], instead of gentleman. And there are no "Ladies" in the Organization. Only a Lady, as there's one by that point, and he's just introducing the other.

Kind of ironic how "ladies" is plural when there's only one lady, and "gentleman" is singular when there's plenty of men...

Originally Posted by *TwilightNight*

It's about Xion, mostly, and the rest is filled with Axel and Roxas (who is understandable), with screens of gameplay, and a bit of Naminé and Riku.

Axel's face is still plastered xD.

Yeah, but not as bad this time around.

Originally Posted by *TwilightNight*

They say that nobody seemed to realize that Liz is the protagonist, and yet, they watch the movie, and pretend that it's not them who are the problem, being the creators and all? Not only that, they didn't bother to tone it down until the last movie.

Yeah, but they just write the script. They don't direct, produce, or act it out. They create the story, and then the rest of the crew takes it and interprets it a certain way. I've also heard many times how Johnny Depp basically took the character and made him his own.

Originally Posted by *TwilightNight*

You got tired of Jack? T-T OMG, it happens. I'm about to break now (then again, I used to be a Sora fangirl, and now I switched to Axel and Roxas, though I'm not a fangirl of Roxas precisely. I just like him better than Sora). But, to give credit, the producers or creators had nothing to do with KH2's dynamic...? >.> It proves Enix/Nomura's habit of focusing on one, popular character too much, doesn't it?

Not tired of Jack, just all the attention he gets. Because now I hear rumors that if they make Pirates 4, it would be better to kick Will and Liz out and take Jack in a new direction. Then it wouldn't be Pirates of the Caribbean to me.

Of course, it's all just speculation, because Disney has even confirmed that they'll make a Pirates 4 in the near future.

Originally Posted by *TwilightNight*

Ah, yes! How could I forget Demyx-kun!

There's another one in need of some character development. I liked what I read in the novel translations, how he liked Roxas and didn't like the idea of fighting him, but didn't know what else to do and felt compelled to obey orders. It's sad.

Originally Posted by *TwilightNight*

Yeah. but the Heartless was a ARMY. Taking up the whole ground vacinity of those canyons. Compare that to Betwixt And Between.

But once the army was gone, there was nothing else left. And Sora knew he had other people helping out in various places: Donald, Goofy, Mickey, Leon and the gang, etc. Those Dusks, on the other hand, just kept coming and coming, with no end in sight, and they were basically stuck. Though it reminds me of how weird it is the way Donald, Goofy, and Mickey just randomly disappear once Sora and Axel start fighting together, and then they reappear after he dies...

Originally Posted by *TwilightNight*

That's why I stick to Roxas lovin' (brotherly), and maybe just him having nothing to live for. Makes more sense that way, but still kind of ruined his death scene for me.

Me too. I like the image of Axel being like an older brother/mentor/friend figure to Roxas, which is why I'm liking that he's in charge of training him in the Organization.

Originally Posted by *TwilightNight*

You mean, there's a chance you'll get tired of Axel? D:

As for that, we'll just have to see. That doesn't really change the screentime he gets, though.

The day I get tired of Axel is the day I get tired of Kingdom Hearts in general, which won't be for a long, long time!

And no, it doesn't change that, but it's more acceptable than him just getting attention for the heck of it.

[Seiramu]

Axel is so awesome, he's my favorite character. I'm an AkuRoku (Axel/Roxas) fangirl (don't flame me for it hahah...everyone has their own favorites! Just deal with it...and I'll try to deal with you AkuRoku hating people ;___; bawwww) and I just love the way he cares so much about Roxas.

Sooo about the current topic:

I don't hate straight pairings or anything, but I don't like Axel/anyone-else-other-than-Roxas, simply because it's clear he cares so much about him and only him hahah. I'm not talking about a love-love thing btw, just that he cares about him and I can't really see him falling in love with Larxene or Naminé (or Demyx, Marluxia etc. rofl).

I can understand it if others pair Larxene with Axel because they're both very cute (yes, I like Larxene a lot, she's one of my faves...I just don't like her paired with Axel. I like Larxene/Demyx though hoho), they are seen in the same scenes and Larxene likes to flirt with him (but, Axel doesn't like her at all rofl and hohoho. Good job Nomura, trying to please us yaoi-fangirls).

I know people don't like it when yaoi fangirls pair up Roxas with Axel, but come on! Just compare how Axel interacts with Roxas with how he interacts with Larxene or Marluxia or whatever...anyone else. I've met people that say "it's clear that Axel likes Larxene" and I always go "WTF". I don't want to bash other pairings because everyone can interpret the things as they want...but stuff like that makes me want to PROOOOVE Axel doesn't like Larxene (just look at the COM scenes with Axel in it and compare them to the REMEMBRANCE scene from FM+. Yep, it's clear that he cares more about Roxas than anyone else). Also, everything (well maybe not everything but a lot) Axel does is for Roxas or at least comes close to him hahah. And just think like this, you yaoi-hating fangirls (just kidding ;D) if Roxas was a girl you will be all convinced Axel LOVES Roxas. Come on, don't deny it, you know I'm right!

I'm sorry...when it comes to Axel/Roxas I can't help it...my inner Axel/Roxas fangirl just can't help it hahah. Forgive me please. Srsly.

BTW HAVE YOU GUYS READ THE NOVEL? Don't blame me for liking Axel/Roxas XD but Axel's so gay in some of those scenes

...I MEAN watching Roxas SLEEP!? Coming as close to him while he sleeps that Roxas almost bumps his head against his!? BEING IN THE SAME ROOM AS ROXAS CHANGES HIS CLOTHES?! OOOOH boy, and not only that one, there are more scenes that makes me go: ROFL AXEL YOU"RE SUCH A FLAMER.

But in return for you Axel/Naminé fangirls, there is a scene that Axel lies on Naminés lap.

EVEN I TOUGHT THAT WAS CUTE AARGH.

Must...stay....on....the....dark....side....with....only....Axel...and....Roxas.

[Mari]

Feel free to sign me up for this club :)