Xehanort's many forms... (for those that are confused about what's going on)

[Crystal]

Could be a "walking heart", as Sora was said to be for a while.

So, there will be another YMX's Nobody? xD

[Seighart]

So, there will be another YMX's Nobody? xD

No, i do believe YMX doesn't have a nobody or a heartless. He just gave up his body and was just a heart floatin around. What confuses me, is that he has a physical form. Im not sure how the "walking heart" process occurs, but speculation gave rise to YMX being one of these and is generally accepted.

[Hillboy]

So, there will be another YMX's Nobody? xD

No he gave up his body, he didn't forfiet his heart to darkness

[JustSnilloc]

I think it's that YX is the one actually executing the travel, but is bringing along each past self one at a time, as "guests".

Exactly, [see explanation below]

Yet time-travel requires that one give up their body...

Alright, so currently the "New" Organization only has (as far as we know) one person with the ability to time travel. That one person is YMX, since he can travel through time he can pick up the other Xehanort's without them needing to "cast aside" their bodies

Hmm..if YMX give up his own body and soul for time travel, why is he still can exist as a physical form ?

Could be a "walking heart", as Sora was said to be for a while.

Correct

PPS's... PPS's (or Projected Physical Shells) are what the heart creates when it lacks a body. Heartless create these out of darkness (given that the heart is drowned in it), Sora's was created out of light (because of Kairi's princess powers), and others like Riku, Kairi, Vanitas, and YMX's were probably created from pure strength of heart

Long story short: The strong heart (or heartless) creates a pseudo body when lacking an actual physical one

No, i do believe YMX doesn't have a nobody or a heartless. He just gave up his body and was just a heart floatin around. What confuses me, is that he has a physical form. Im not sure how the "walking heart" process occurs, but speculation gave rise to YMX being one of these and is generally accepted.

Alright, so I explained the "walking heart" process. YMX became one because he cast aside his body. Obviously he wouldn't have a heartless (since he is the heart) but the Nobody is questionable- according to the theory in my sig it should work, but idk if it could or not

[8298906]

I think it's that YX is the one actually executing the travel, but is bringing along each past self one at a time, as "guests".

And if he's only moving forward in time let's think of the ones he brought and presented (Heart)Vanitus, Ansem SoD, and Xemnas. Braig and Isa are from the present. So what others he could of brought chronologically between (Heart)Vanitus, Ansem SoD, and Xemnas.

[JustSnilloc]

And if he's only moving forward in time let's think of the ones he brought and presented (Heart)Vanitus, Ansem SoD, and Xemnas. Braig and Isa are from the present. So what others he could of brought chronologically between (Heart)Vanitus, Ansem SoD, and Xemnas.

Riku Replica
Rikunort (while his and Xehanort's hearts were inside)
Ven-Van fusion (the one with the X-Blade, probably wouldn't still have it, but...)

a couple of the top of my head... Riku Replica doesn't have a 'nortified heart though

[billyzanesucks]

I had considered the "walking heart" thing, but Seph's quote made me question it. I was probably just thinking into it too much.

[Crystal]

No he gave up his body, he didn't forfiet his heart to darkness

Why is he having yellow eyes if he didn't accept darkness?

Correct

PPS's... PPS's (or Projected Physical Shells) are what the heart creates when it lacks a body. Heartless create these out of darkness (given that the heart is drowned in it), Sora's was created out of light (because of Kairi's princess powers), and others like Riku, Kairi, Vanitas, and YMX's were probably created from pure strength of heart

Long story short: The strong heart (or heartless) creates a pseudo body when lacking an actual physical one

I'm agree with you. Is it just like Xehanort having a strong heart, which create a strong Heartless and strong Nobody?

[Hillboy]

Why is he having yellow eyes if he didn't accept darkness

Yellow eyes have nothing to do with darkness, it means a strong connection to Xehanort (or as we know now that you have a piece of MX's heart inside you you) and considering that is YMX he has the same heart as MX

[JustSnilloc]

[QUOTE=Crystal;5817782]Why is he having yellow eyes if he didn't accept darkness?

Hillboy pretty much got this one, pretty much Nomura said what Hillboy said in an interview once

Yellow eyes have nothing to do with darkness, it means a strong connection to Xehanort (or as we know now that you have a piece of MX's heart inside you you) and considering that is YMX he has the same heart as MX

Basically, Yellow eyes show a strong connection to Xehanort, and YMX is Xehanort so.....

I'm agree with you. Is it just like Xehanort having a strong heart, which create a strong Heartless and strong Nobody?

Not quite... You see the strong heart will do those things, but that's not quite what happens with YMX (or most of the others)

With YMX, he cast aside his body leaving only his heart. That heart of his (containing all of who he is and being extremely strong) created a PPS of who he was before casting aside his real body. It did this because the heart is extremely vulnerable without a body (pseudo or real)...

With Riku, he was cast from his body by Ansem, Seeker of Darkness. We see in the FM that he creates a PPS while in the RoD (before Ansem is defeated and he gets his body back)

With Vanitas, he was stripped from his original self (Ventus when he had a normal heart) and from that point forward Vanitas existed only of a heart... Thus his heart (wanting to continue existing) created a PPS so that he may live on

With Kairi, something happened (idk) and she was separated from her body. We see her PPS standing in front of DI's Keyhole, and then fading into Sora...


Make more since now? I thought maybe some examples might help, let me know :D

[Seighart]

Idk why YMX didn't just pick up Caius...i mean come on...instant win.

[Crystal]

Yellow eyes have nothing to do with darkness, it means a strong connection to Xehanort (or as we know now that you have a piece of MX's heart inside you you) and considering that is YMX he has the same heart as MX

Oh, so what's symbolized someone influenced by darkness?

Not quite... You see the strong heart will do those things, but that's not quite what happens with YMX (or most of the others)

With YMX, he cast aside his body leaving only his heart. That heart of his (containing all of who he is and being extremely strong) created a PPS of who he was before casting aside his real body. It did this because the heart is extremely vulnerable without a body (pseudo or real)...

With Riku, he was cast from his body by Ansem, Seeker of Darkness. We see in the FM that he creates a PPS while in the RoD (before Ansem is defeated and he gets his body back)

With Vanitas, he was stripped from his original self (Ventus when he had a normal heart) and from that point forward Vanitas existed only of a heart... Thus his heart (wanting to continue existing) created a PPS so that he may live on

With Kairi, something happened (idk) and she was separated from her body. We see her PPS standing in front of DI's Keyhole, and then fading into Sora...


Make more since now? I thought maybe some examples might help, let me know :D

Thank you for explains :3 Rep for you :P
Just another question, how YMX cast aside his body, does he require a keyblade to do so?

[StMRyEire]

Basically, Yellow eyes show a strong connection to Xehanort, and YMX is Xehanort so...

While I know that this has been confirmed, can anyone explain why AX had brown eyes once he was brought out of the Realm of Darkness by Aqua, or will that be explained in DDD? After all, we know that the "memory loss" was a charade, so why did his eyes change color if he IS Xehanort?

[JustSnilloc]

Oh, so what's symbolized someone influenced by darkness?

I don't believe that in KH that we have specific physical changes for the usage of darkness... Don't forget that darkness is just an element, sure it has its own realm (unlike elements like fire, ice, etc) but outside of using darkness the wrong way thereby damaging your heart, it doesn't seem to have any unique effects on the user or the person influenced by it

Just another question, how YMX cast aside his body, does he require a keyblade to do so?

That's how he probably did it, yeah... The keyblade's power over and of the heart would allow such a thing to be possible (assuming that somebody knew how to do it anyway)

While I know that this has been confirmed, can anyone explain why AX had brown eyes once he was brought out of the Realm of Darkness by Aqua, or will that be explained in DDD? After all, we know that the "memory loss" was a charade, so why did his eyes change color if he IS Xehanort?

I just checked, he still had yellow eyes upon coming out of the realm of darkness... It wasn't until later (when dressed in scientist outfit) that he had brown eyes, this could be viewed as the slow process of Ansem's (the wise) influence on AX, surely you've noticed that Xemnas and Ansem, Seeker of Darkness have his eyes :)

I may be wrong on the specifics of the process here, but something like that was going on

[StMRyEire]

I just checked, he still had yellow eyes upon coming out of the realm of darkness... It wasn't until later (when dressed in scientist outfit) that he had brown eyes, this could be viewed as the slow process of Ansem's (the wise) influence on AX, surely you've noticed that Xemnas and Ansem, Seeker of Darkness have his eyes :)

I may be wrong on the specifics of the process here, but something like that was going on

Sorry, that's what I meant, not as soon as he came out of the RoD. xD
Yeah, the changing of his eyes from brown to yellow was what I was going for I just didn't think there was a specific reason why his eyes were like that. And yup, I noticed the change in their eyes.