The X's in organization

[theheroofdarknes]

How did this game go from star wars to Harry potter?

'cause with all of his heart extraction thing he did to the others it's like Voldi splitting his soul multiple times to keep himself immortal... won't be that much of a surprise by now that in order to put MX down once and for all, you got to destroy all of his heart-horcruxes/Organization Members to weaken him

[MinerKing]

Ya know this could work out to Sora's advantage.

Kairi: Oh Sora i got this brand new bra with x shaped straps.

Sora: O.O Oh no! Kairi we need to rip that off of you before Xehanort can track you down!

*Sora rips her bra off*

Sora: There we go, you're safe. And may I just say you've certainly grown since we were little kids. *Grins like a pervert*

Kairi: Don't look! I'm a princess of heart, i'm supposed to be pure.

Sora laughs: Yeah right, you may have been born with a pure heart but your mind aint so pure, sweetheart.

*Xehanort watches from afar*

Xehanort: I don't know, little girls never did it for me. Boy are far more interesting.

Braiganort: That explains sooooo much, old man.

GET NOMURA ON THE PHONE, STAT! TELL HIM WE GOT THE KH3 PLOT RIGHT HERE.

[Ronove]

AND THEN THEY ALL diddlyED

THE END

[Memory Master]

How did this game go from star wars to Harry potter?

Ah I was talking about Xehanort making Heartcruxes out of people before KH3D came out. I just didn't think he was planning to use all the members of Organization XIII to do it originally, nor did I suspect he was doing it to create the true X-Blade obviously.

Anyways KH3's plot is basically going to be the seven lights fighting the 13 darknesses across the worlds, while getting the princesses of heart together (Unless they do the princesses of heart gathering as Lea and Kairi's MoM exam in BBSV2 or something), and the X-Blade finally being forged before Xehanort is eventually defeated, and we'll get some hints of the next saga and KH4.

[JustSnilloc]

LoL, I think now Sora's going to be paranoid about every X he sees.

Perhaps unintentional, but a good point nonetheless... Is every "X" mark the mark of heresy? Somehow I'm not thinking that's the case

[chasespicer056]

Actually, maybe Xemnas did develop some way of tracking the members of the Organization. It would explain how the Organization found the data Twilight Town so quickly.

Ya know this could work out to Sora's advantage.

Kairi: Oh Sora i got this brand new bra with x shaped straps.

Sora: O.O Oh no! Kairi we need to rip that off of you before Xehanort can track you down!

*Sora rips her bra off*

Sora: There we go, you're safe. And may I just say you've certainly grown since we were little kids. *Grins like a pervert*

Kairi: Don't look! I'm a princess of heart, i'm supposed to be pure.

Sora laughs: Yeah right, you may have been born with a pure heart but your mind aint so pure, sweetheart.

*Xehanort watches from afar*

Xehanort: I don't know, little girls never did it for me. Boys are far more interesting.

Braiganort: That explains sooooo much, old man.

Funny stuff!

[Sephiroth0812]

Perhaps unintentional, but a good point nonetheless... Is every "X" mark the mark of heresy? Somehow I'm not thinking that's the case

I have also already pointed this out earlier. Young MX nowhere indicates that every "X" is a Mark of Heresy that allows Xehanort to track his toys/pawns whatever. He spoke specifically of Sora's DDD clothes and pointed at them.
Riku's DDD clothes changed apparently due to him becoming a spirit-Dream Eater to combat Sora's nightmares while Sora's clothes were crafted/changed by Ansem SoD and Young MX. They both even wonder why their clothes changed, as in the Destiny Islands segment (which is already the RoS) they have their normal KH1-clothing.
The "X"-zipper on Roxas' jacket was more reminiscent of the top of the Nobody-symbol and perhaps a throwback to the X-blade, which was also the reason for the "X" in every Org-members name.
TAV's straps on the other hand where given to them by Eraqus, not by MX. It's clearly seeable in the Flashback when MX brings young Ventus to Eraqus.
Terra and Aqua already have their "X-straps" despite Xehanort seeing them for the first time and Ventus despite being with MX for a long time up to then has actually none. He has his black and white jacket with the red pleated collar but no "X-straps". He only gets those after Eraqus accepted him as his pupil.

So I would say as well that designating every "X" as a Mark of Heresy-tracking device of Xehanort is a bit hasty.

[MasterZeR0]

I hate the horrid comparison. He's not making himself immortal, he's splitting his heart to take over other vessels, making more Xehanorts. They're not the same, it's ridiculous.

[lycorismoon29]

How did this game go from star wars to Harry potter?

The moment Xehanort started making everybody a piece of him rofl.

I hate the horrid comparison. He's not making himself immortal, he's splitting his heart to take over other vessels, making more Xehanorts. They're not the same, it's ridiculous.

Pray tell, why is he making more vessels? What is he seeking? To "see what lies beyond the Keyblade War"? To make light and darkness balanced? Those are just fancy ways of him hiding the fact he wants to become a god and live forever, shape history however he wants it, see all the possibilities of what could be done under his influence. Timeless and eternal.

If it's a mark of heresy, would that mean only those who have darkness in them have an X?

Doubt it works that way. Ventus had no Darkness after Xehanort split his heart in half, and yet he was still marked and was even used to create the X-Blade.

[flurryflames]

The "X"-zipper on Roxas' jacket was more reminiscent of the top of the Nobody-symbol and perhaps a throwback to the X-blade, which was also the reason for the "X" in every Org-members name.
TAV's straps on the other hand where given to them by Eraqus, not by MX. It's clearly seeable in the Flashback when MX brings young Ventus to Eraqus.
Terra and Aqua already have their "X-straps" despite Xehanort seeing them for the first time and Ventus despite being with MX for a long time up to then has actually none. He has his black and white jacket with the red pleated collar but no "X-straps". He only gets those after Eraqus accepted him as his pupil.

So I would say as well that designating every "X" as a Mark of Heresy-tracking device of Xehanort is a bit hasty.

Didn't Diz come up with Roxas jacket design when he trapped him in the twilight town? I think the X was a coincidence in that case because he didn't want Roxas to know his true origins. Sora wears the X design on his clothes which was desgined by the faires in KH 2 and so do some other characters such as Leon. Some characters may have had it on purpose, but there are other charaacters that have no connection with Xeohanort.

As for the other characters having it, I remember in a interview that Noruma was obsesssed with zippers so maybe the same way apply with the X as well.

[Marx15]

The reason why TAV all have "X" integrated into their clothing is because the letter "X" had importance in BBS, so Nomura wanted to integrate X into their clothing. Thus the straps across their chests.

Something like that was said in an interview I believe.


And yeah, it's only been said that Sora's DDD clothing had the mark of heresy....I don't remember seeing it being said that all X's are marks of heresy.

How did this game go from star wars to Harry potter?

Don't forget Inception too.

[Sephiroth0812]

Doubt it works that way. Ventus had no Darkness after Xehanort split his heart in half, and yet he was still marked and was even used to create the X-Blade.

Ventus wasn't "marked" and neither were Terra or Aqua. These straps are part of their Keyblade Apprentice outfit and were given to them by Eraqus, not Xehanort.
When Ventus was Xehanort's apprentice he didn't have the "X-straps", only his jacket.

Didn't Diz come up with Roxas jacket design when he trapped him in the twilight town? I think the X was a coincidence in that case because he didn't want Roxas to know his true origins. Sora wears the X design on his clothes which was desgined by the faires in KH 2 and so do some other characters such as Leon. Some characters may have had it on purpose, but there are other charaacters that have no connection with Xeohanort.

As for the other characters having it, I remember in a interview that Noruma was obsesssed with zippers so maybe the same way apply with the X as well.

Not really, Roxas' clothing he has in the virtual Twilight Town is his actual clothing which is beneath his black coat. When Riku and DiZ brought him to the mansion and imprisoned him in the Digital World they stripped him of the black coat beforehand.

Roxas already had these clothes when he was born, as seen in the naming ceremony when Xemnas twirls the letters around him.
I would rather guess that in-universe these clothes came to be due to the subtle influence of Ven's heart (like the red collar of the overjacket, which is identical to Ven's) and the relation to Nobodies and possibly the X-blade (Ven hates and fears that thing) is symbolized by Roxas's X-zipper. The checkerboard pattern of his white overjacket is, interestingly according to Nomura, a represenation of Light and Darkness (Vanitas & Ven?).

Until really proven otherwise I remain at my point that none of those "X"s is actually a "Mark of Heresy" from Xehanort, and for TAV it is already impossible since Terra and Aqua had theirs before Xehanort even knew them and Ventus had none while being with him.

The reason why TAV all have "X" integrated into their clothing is because the letter "X" had importance in BBS, so Nomura wanted to integrate X into their clothing. Thus the straps across their chests.

Something like that was said in an interview I believe.


And yeah, it's only been said that Sora's DDD clothing had the mark of heresy....I don't remember seeing it being said that all X's are marks of heresy.

Correct, it was this and additionally also had to to something with their armor.

That's what Young Xehanort explains anyways and it makes sense since Sora openly wonders why his clothes changed when he lands in Traverse.
It's more than likely that the brown-cloaked Ansem SoD that appears after the Ursula-battle at DI gave out these clothes in order to start the plan of the "Norts" to make Sora the 13th vessel.
(On a quirky sidenote for a non-mothertongue English speaker, normally it's "3rd" or "23rd", so why is "13th" an exception?)

[lycorismoon29]

Ventus wasn't "marked" and neither were Terra or Aqua. These straps are part of their Keyblade Apprentice outfit and were given to them by Eraqus, not Xehanort.
When Ventus was Xehanort's apprentice he didn't have the "X-straps", only his jacket.

Being given to them by Eraqus means nothing. And why would he need to mark Ven when he already had an eye on him before the heart-splitting fiasco? Terra, Ven, Aqua, and Eraqus were all Xehanort's pawns. Even if they might have worn them voluntarily (even Riku whose clothes had "X"s on them), they are still wearing an "X".

That is how I see it. You are right that we don't know how far of a reach Xehanort had and who he exactly marked besides the Organization and Sora, but there is no coincidence in this anymore. They had "X"s on them, and they were all potential vessels for Xehanort and potential tools to create the X-Blade.

[MasterZeR0]

Pray tell, why is he making more vessels? What is he seeking? To "see what lies beyond the Keyblade War"? To make light and darkness balanced? Those are just fancy ways of him hiding the fact he wants to become a god and live forever, shape history however he wants it, see all the possibilities of what could be done under his influence. Timeless and eternal.

The way I see it, he is not looking to live forever. He simply wants to recreate the universe. (simply? well, nevermind about that part.) He wants to recreate the Keyblade War and see what happens to this universe when it is shattered by the force of it, with himself as the sole creator of said universe. He's creating more of himself as means to an end, not as means to never end.

[Golden Yak]

Just had a thought, not exactly related to the OP, but it would have the same name:

The X's in all the Organization's names stand for Xehanort, and we've learned that Xehanort plans to copy his heart and memories into the members of the Organization, creating duplicates of himself. So it was right there from the beginning - putting 'X'ehanort into others.