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Old 11/29/06, 07:16 AM   #316
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Open your eyes. I'm judging you based on your arguments, not your race. If you were white, indian or chinese, I'd judge you the same way because I don't care about race.
Thank you. You just proved my point. You show respect to every damn race, because each time you say I don't care about your race or your culture that's making you close to "the man" the person who is hated and known as a racist. Now let's step back and take a look at this whole damn arguement It cites that you have problems with the black race.



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Lying is for the weak. When did I make fun of your culture?
You made fun of my culture when you said the N-word, and how It's stupid that we remember the people we love. Also don't bring up that "weak" crap cuz your really the only one here is who is.

Y'know ever since this thread started and you,ve been coming at me this way It's been hard to describe you.. So from now I'm gonna call you Kramer. Got it?

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Now let's step back to me saying that words belong to no man, and let's step back to me saying I have black blood, giving me full rights to the word.
Now let me trace back to when we started so I,ll say it once more. Yes, they do. If It's something that's for us to show who we are then hell yeah it is. It isn't just some "Fad" that's ignorance and a biased fact that is pure racist. Y'know what I'm say? Your racist.

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Jewish people don't get outraged if Christians celebrate Hanukkah. Christians don't whine when Jewish people celebrate Christmas. So your examples don't work.
True , they don't get as upset They,ll just think your stupid. So tell me do you want them to think of you? Cuz It isn't exactly their holiday you get me? OMG....are you stupid?

You FAIL

Christmas is a holiday ,not just Christians,not for Jews, Everybody.

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You can't have it both ways. The word is either good or bad. If the distinction comes because of race, you're being racist.
Were humans, and yet sometimes we can be both good and evil but still co-exist. I,ve told you already a 50 times It's based on history. Back then black people were oppressed, totured, and verbally abused with racial slurs. Out of everyone here you're
are probaly the biggest racist. I mean out of everyone here your the one who is showing their true colors.


You didn't anwser my question...

I take It you didn't read the Odyssey afterall...Alright I,ll give you a quick summary of the book.

It's the story of Greek warrior Oddyseus who goes to fight in the Trojan war and leaves his wife and son alone in the process. After the end of the war he emerged victorious. Him and his crew. However, the god of the sea Poseidon was mad because he was overconfident and messed up his ship's voyage and left them wandering the seas for over 20 years.

Meanwhile in his home Ithca his wife is planning to remarry just as she promised him when he left for the war. However, she's still tries to hold on to hope. But she's still be harrassed by the suitors who are ruining his kingdom by taking every piece of meat, booze, speak badly of their king, wear the clothes of their lost king , and sleeping with Oddyseus's maids. His wife Penelope pretty much loses hope.

However, soon he returns home in the guise of a beggar and plots with his son to take down the suitors. When he finally, convinces his wife that her husband has returned he asks her for a test; shoot an arrow through 12 axe handles. However, only Oddyseus succeeds and begins to kill them the suitors one by one, not sparing any one of them.

Now, tell me do you know what the moral of this story is? Respect. You a respect
their home and everything that belongs to them. To Oddyseus they were nothing but useless flocks meat that deserved to die and would only be forgiven until each of them perished by him. And just like Oddyseus black people don't deserve that sort of disrespect.


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The house is yours by rights. Tell me, do you have any right to ban people from a hotel that doesn't belong to you because they're dirty? No, it's not your hotel.
If It's my hotel room yes, I have every right to kick you out. Firstly, your tracking mud (Who the hell would want mud in their room?) into the room and It would seem to be stupid that after you come into something that's not mine. I'm pretty sure you,d be ask to leave by me and the owner of the hotel.

But that doesn't have to do with the situation. Your going off topic here buddy. It's what's YOURS not someone else's.

Correct about the situation, wrong about the anwser. Failure


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When you enter someones house you must take off your shoes and ask for different clothes.


In the event that you enter someones house then you stop immediately. It's offensive to them and you,ll probaly influence their children to do it.


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Jewish people still don't give a crap over who celebrates it.
Actually, they still do. Nice try but you still fail.

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Then the word "idiot". I hereby ban you from saying the word idiot again, because it was created by white people.
Now, that's racism. That's the standard word and is one of the requirements for speaking the english language and communicating with people. That's one of the words needed for me and others to use. Not too mention that's vocabulary and that's one word that belongs to NOBODY. Teh N-word does.


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I'd say about two posts, because that was about the time everyone realized you are retarded.
Hey, buddy you ain't even making a difference hell your one of the most useless and retarded people here. Tell me who the hell uses Halo as an example? This is ain't the gaming section moron. Seperate reality and virtual from each other please.

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You're telling us when it's "proper" to use "******," yet you can't even play the race card right? That's like losing when you have the rocket launcher and sword in Halo. What's that in the sky? It's a bird! It's a plane! No, it's the what little credibility you had left flying out the window.
Dude, don't say that word. Poor example btw. It's like I told you long ago: Stop being a nerd. This is real life, and not some dumb game. Black people don't have rocket launchers and swords.

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Actualy, yes, it does. It's not terribly difficult to understand. Black people, a specific race of people, are exclusively allowed to use a specific word. How is that not racism?
We as an entire race lack one thing: We can't use a word that was used to victimize black people and verbally abuse them. Amazing...you really are intelligent. Last I checked nobody in the whole entire world would bitch about this. Seems to me you guys are alone in your struggle.

We lack the use of one word, yet we get to say over a billion other words. Hardly, seems unfair.

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The KKK "embraces" its race, too. Does that mean it's okay to burn crosses and lynch blacks/Jews/homosexuals/etc.?
The KKK has an agressive and different view of the world is hatred is the way to show love. If you want god to love you must rid the world of It's problems. In truth they were Hitlers. In a way they believed in self-preservation

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Translation: It's not racism if you're black.
It's very hard to understand racism if you got a crayon up your nose and a twig up your ass my friend. Go to the doctor. I,ll be waiting until the operation is over.

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Exactly, so stop ****ing using it.
I don't have to. Remember buddy? That's you and everyone else here.

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What does ancient Greek poetry have to do with racism?
It's a story of respect that I suggest you read more.


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I see where you're coming from, only african-americans can use it in a non-offensive way. But the question I have is, Do YOU think its right? If the word has a negative past, even though the black community has turned it around, wouldn't it be better not to be used at all?
I,ll be honest I do feel some disgust to it. But In a way think of this way: When the black people were being beat they kept calling that word saying they were slaves. It's used to remember our ancestors and tell them although that they're dead and that they,ll never come back we,ll never forget them. The word is used to reminence on the day that they became slaves and were saved. When they were glad and sad.

Here's another way to put it: Say your father died and you never got know him. How'd feel? Would still want to remember him? Do you think it's alright to let go of your father? Even if he beat you and abused you verbally or your mother? Even if he was the one who helped give birth to you?
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Old 11/29/06, 12:21 PM   #317
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You know, I'm getting really tired of hearing this retarded "The Man" excuse. Exactly who is "The Man?" No one can ever tell me. It's a red herring, a damn "Get Out of Responsibility Free" card.

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Hey, buddy you ain't even making a difference hell your one of the most useless and retarded people here. Tell me who the hell uses Halo as an example? This is ain't the gaming section moron. Seperate reality and virtual from each other please.
Insults, eh? Poor ones, at that. Is that all you can muster?

I have a rather firm grip on reality. It seems you are the one out of touch with it, especially when you claim that it's not racism if you are black.

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Dude, don't say that word.
Remind me again why I can't use the word "******."

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Poor example btw. It's like I told you long ago: Stop being a nerd. This is real life, and not some dumb game. Black people don't have rocket launchers and swords.
I see you can't wrap your head around analogies. Okay, I'll be literal. You suck at presenting your argument. Shit, you can't even play the race card correctly, which is pretty much the easiest way to weasel yourself out of any given argument, especially if you're black.

Also, whether or not I am a nerd is irrelevant to the discussion. Honestly, what's with your constant irrelevant ad hominem?

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We as an entire race lack one thing: We can't use a word that was used to victimize black people and verbally abuse them. Amazing...you really are intelligent. Last I checked nobody in the whole entire world would bitch about this. Seems to me you guys are alone in your struggle.
America is unique in this sense. The US is so exposed to black/white racism that it has become hypersensitive and rife with retarded double standards, like black people being able to say "******" freely. That's why you don't see the rest of the world bitching about it.

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We lack the use of one word, yet we get to say over a billion other words. Hardly, seems unfair.
What the **** are you yapping about?

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The KKK has an agressive and different view of the world is hatred is the way to show love. If you want god to love you must rid the world of It's problems. In truth they were Hitlers. In a way they believed in self-preservation
They also considered themselves priviledged, the superior race; preferrential treatment, like exclusive use of a word based on race. No one may be murdered on account of this word (not directly at least), but the principle is the same.

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It's very hard to understand racism if you got a crayon up your nose and a twig up your ass my friend. Go to the doctor. I,ll be waiting until the operation is over.
Avoiding the discussion, I see.

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I don't have to. Remember buddy? That's you and everyone else here.
...which brings us back to my original point: basing your judgement upon race -which you are doing right now- is racism by its very definition.

Like I said: "Translation: It's not racism if you're black."

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It's a story of respect that I suggest you read more.
That's funny as hell coming from someone who realies almost entirely upon insults to pad his arguments.

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I,ll be honest I do feel some disgust to it. But In a way think of this way: When the black people were being beat they kept calling that word saying they were slaves. It's used to remember our ancestors and tell them although that they're dead and that they,ll never come back we,ll never forget them. The word is used to reminence on the day that they became slaves and were saved. When they were glad and sad.
You remember your ancestors by insulting them?

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Here's another way to put it: Say your father died and you never got know him. How'd feel? Would still want to remember him? Do you think it's alright to let go of your father? Even if he beat you and abused you verbally or your mother? Even if he was the one who helped give birth to you?
I certainly wouldn't exploit his memory as a form of retroactive guilt.

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Old 11/29/06, 12:32 PM   #318
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Thank you. You just proved my point. You show respect to every damn race, because each time you say I don't care about your race or your culture that's making you close to "the man" the person who is hated and known as a racist. Now let's step back and take a look at this whole damn arguement It cites that you have problems with the black race.
Then you should respect my right to use my own language to the fullest extent. You have no right as a human to ban me or my race from using any part of our own language.

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You made fun of my culture when you said the N-word, and how It's stupid that we remember the people we love. Also don't bring up that "weak" crap cuz your really the only one here is who is.
Your race insults my race when I get called a 'cracka-ass', what gives you the right to call me a crackah? It is my right as a crackah to call other crackahs the name crackah, gtfo my word. In fact, gtfo the word 'white' too, I find it offencive.

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Y'know ever since this thread started and you,ve been coming at me this way It's been hard to describe you.. So from now I'm gonna call you Kramer. Got it?
I'll just call you Kamau Kambon

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Now let me trace back to when we started so I,ll say it once more. Yes, they do. If It's something that's for us to show who we are then hell yeah it is. It isn't just some "Fad" that's ignorance and a biased fact that is pure racist. Y'know what I'm say? Your racist.
Uhh, I would call it a 'fad' considering it's only been used in this fassion for the past 20 years or so, you had an entire century of not using it, it's only recent generations that have done so
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Were humans, and yet sometimes we can be both good and evil but still co-exist. I,ve told you already a 50 times It's based on history. Back then black people were oppressed, totured, and verbally abused with racial slurs. Out of everyone here you're
are probaly the biggest racist. I mean out of everyone here your the one who is showing their true colors.
So were Women, you don't see them going around say 'Stay female mah sistah!' or calling each other bitches

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Now, tell me do you know what the moral of this story is? Respect. You a respect
their home and everything that belongs to them. To Oddyseus they were nothing but useless flocks meat that deserved to die and would only be forgiven until each of them perished by him. And just like Oddyseus black people don't deserve that sort of disrespect.
You should respect my english language and not take ownership over any part of it based on your race. Do you see white people taking ownership over words? Or females? Or jewish people?

Blacks were enslaved/oppressed for the shortest period of time out of any group of people in the history of man-kind, yet they're the only ones who still complain about it, or take ownership over words, or blame others for what happened, or demand anything from other people based on what happened to thier ancestors

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If It's my hotel room yes, I have every right to kick you out. Firstly, your tracking mud (Who the hell would want mud in their room?) into the room and It would seem to be stupid that after you come into something that's not mine. I'm pretty sure you,d be ask to leave by me and the owner of the hotel.
The hotel itself is the English Language, do you get the analogy now? You have no right to ban someone from something that you do not own, you can not own a language, or a word.
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Now, that's racism. That's the standard word and is one of the requirements for speaking the english language and communicating with people. That's one of the words needed for me and others to use. Not too mention that's vocabulary and that's one word that belongs to NOBODY. Teh N-word does.
You are physically unable to go a day without using the word/insult 'idiot'? It is a REQUIRED word in every day conversation!? How DARE you use that word that was used to opress unintelligent people, that is THIER word, and you have NO RIGHT to use it.

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We as an entire race lack one thing: We can't use a word that was used to victimize black people and verbally abuse them.
Really now? Isn't that what this entire thread is about, how you have exclusive rights to a word because it was used in the past to ridicule you?

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Amazing...you really are intelligent. Last I checked nobody in the whole entire world would bitch about this. Seems to me you guys are alone in your struggle.
HEY, that word was used to opress women, you have NO RIGHT to use that word, you sexist bastard.

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We lack the use of one word, yet we get to say over a billion other words. Hardly, seems unfair.
It's as fair as not letting you use my water fountain

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I,ll be honest I do feel some disgust to it. But In a way think of this way: When the black people were being beat they kept calling that word saying they were slaves. It's used to remember our ancestors and tell them although that they're dead and that they,ll never come back we,ll never forget them. The word is used to reminence on the day that they became slaves and were saved. When they were glad and sad.
You honestly think that they would enjoy you taking the word that was used to insult them, and saying it to each other all the time? That's your way of respecting them, by calling each other the insult?

You can respect your ancestors on your own time, in your prayers, by visiting thier grave, or mourning on a specific day, like the rest of us do

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Here's another way to put it: Say your father died and you never got know him. How'd feel? Would still want to remember him? Do you think it's alright to let go of your father? Even if he beat you and abused you verbally or your mother? Even if he was the one who helped give birth to you?
If my Father's name was Richard I wouldn't spaz out every time someone said the word and then tell them they're not allowed to use it
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Old 11/30/06, 04:06 AM   #319
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Once again, you all continue to humor me. Not even one of you has solid evidence to back up your statements. Not to mention you have to insult to gain ground on the arguement. Too bad not one of you is doing good at that. However, keep going. Keep bringing up other theories so I can laugh.



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You know, I'm getting really tired of hearing this retarded "The Man" excuse. Exactly who is "The Man?" No one can ever tell me. It's a red herring, a damn "Get Out of Responsibility Free" card.
The man is the one who spoils thing because of his racist dimensional imagination and his version of racism. Not only is he a racist but is one of the most hated people. In this case: You. You TMM and Phoenix count as the man. Because you both have problems with races besides your own. "Responsibility free card"? Tell me how long did it take you to come up with that dumb name?


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Insults, eh? Poor ones, at that. Is that all you can muster?
Can you be smarter?

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I have a rather firm grip on reality. It seems you are the one out of touch with it, especially when you claim that it's not racism if you are black.
If I wasn't black I'm pretty sure I wouldn't,ve said the word now would I?

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Remind me again why I can't use the word "******."
Because that means your a racist. So stop saying the word. I'm gonna say It nicely once more...Stop saying..the word. Because that what you said to us b ack then

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I see you can't wrap your head around analogies. Okay, I'll be literal. You suck at presenting your argument. Shit, you can't even play the race card correctly, which is pretty much the easiest way to weasel yourself out of any given argument, especially if you're black.
Actually, your the one who keeps on coming back with very useless arguements. You can't even give a good reason why It's wrong for me to say the word. It doesn't matter If I'm black or nor, and that's such a very,very poor excuse. That's like saying It's alright for Illegal Mexican immigrants to cross over to Mexico. Truly racist comment. You really are showing your true colors.. my friend.

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Also, whether or not I am a nerd is irrelevant to the discussion. Honestly, what's with your constant irrelevant ad hominem?
I'm saying stop comparing this to video games cuz It's different. Okay? There is no racism In Halo and black people don't run around with guns and swords.

You tell me. Where the hell did the Halo comment come from? If you wanna go play video games so badly go. Okay, bye. You bring irrelevance to the table I brings flames along with it.


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America is unique in this sense. The US is so exposed to black/white racism that it has become hypersensitive and rife with retarded double standards, like black people being able to say "******" freely. That's why you don't see the rest of the world bitching about it.
I think the hypersensitivity lies with all of you. I don't see ANYONE making complains about this topic. It's "Nigga" and I'm going to tell you for the last time: Stop saying the word. NOW. It's because everyone in the world always has to have to let power go to their head and think that they should have control over everything in the world.

They think an era of sadness such as that is something that is used to bash them and the day and age we live in.


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What the **** are you yapping about?
I'm saying that were exposed to things worse then this. Teen pregnancy, crack addicts, police abusing the law, disunity, corrupt goverment officials, black on black crime, television. Tell me do I need to say more?

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They also considered themselves priviledged, the superior race; preferrential treatment, like exclusive use of a word based on race. No one may be murdered on account of this word (not directly at least), but the principle is the same.
What? How is it that we consider ourselves the master race? So your saying that were the same as the Nazi's? First off, Hitler and the rest of the Nazi's would kill the jews and would make them look stupid,and torment them. Do you SEE black people do that to everyone else. Were the same as anyone else we all have hte same privledges as anyone else. Now, your being stupid. Stop tripping were still human. It's you and everyone else because of your lack of faith within black people. See this is what makes you "the man".

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Avoiding the discussion, I see.

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...which brings us back to my original point: basing your judgement upon race -which you are doing right now- is racism by its very definition.

Like I said: "Translation: It's not racism if you're black."
And once again I say If you keep on coming at me like this then your obviously bitter. Also It's racism If you say the N-word. So that basically makes you the racist one. Seriously, are you retarded? Do you not know what racism is? Your obviously showing it. Seriously, your definition is very retarded.

Racism also means:

prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on such a belief : a program to combat racism.

Tell me what the hell are you doing?

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That's funny as hell coming from someone who realies almost entirely upon insults to pad his arguments.
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You remember your ancestors by insulting them?



I certainly wouldn't exploit his memory as a form of retroactive guilt.

How does it look like were insulting them? We use the word as a key word to remember when they were tormented and when they were freed.

How is that retro-active guilt? Stop using big words unless you know how to use them properly, please.

Since you like video games I,ll put it this way.:

The word is the same thing Kairi's pendant mean't to Sora. Something used to cherish their memories,k? Not EXPLOIT.

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Then you should respect my right to use my own language to the fullest extent. You have no right as a human to ban me or my race from using any part of our own language.
Actually, we do. We share the same language but not the same word. Much less a word that was taken advantage of and used to insult us. For us part of our history they didn't say the words towards themselves however in your history you said it billions of times. Insulting,and whipping them.

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Your race insults my race when I get called a 'cracka-ass', what gives you the right to call me a crackah? It is my right as a crackah to call other crackahs the name crackah, gtfo my word. In fact, gtfo the word 'white' too, I find it offencive.
From what I can tell. Not much black people even use that word. In fact, I'm positive. That word is a cheap rip off of the N-word. Because white people kept saying that word on and on. Besides you keep on saying the N-word. You say that and we have every right to call you C-word. That's your word probaly only the ignorant people say that word. Not all black people say that word. Besides the H word is more the fad that some black people call white people.

Also stop acting stupid. We can say "white" we can say "black'. You however cannot say the N-word". No, that's just innappropiate. Those are the standard words that are required for us to say in order to ccommunicate with each other.

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I'll just call you Kamau Kambon
YAY! I like that name besides It's got the cool feel. I almost feel like Wyclef Jean now. Besides It's much better then the name 'Kramer which reeks of lamacy Thanks, can I call you daddy? :D How about Brian? Do you like that name?


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Uhh, I would call it a 'fad' considering it's only been used in this fassion for the past 20 years or so, you had an entire century of not using it, it's only recent generations that have done so
So what you rather forget your people then? Your bitter. I mean really bitter and jealous

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So were Women, you don't see them going around say 'Stay female mah sistah!' or calling each other bitches
Girls never call each other bitches. Black people respect women, I mean each and everyone of them. The only we call bitches that are the ones that are at the clubs since they don't respect for their body and just have sex non-stop. That is a term of disrespect to all women. Rappers also call them bitches because they're supposed to role-play as being hoes but are really women with self-respect. Big difference dude.


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You should respect my english language and not take ownership over any part of it based on your race. Do you see white people taking ownership over words? Or females? Or jewish people?

Blacks were enslaved/oppressed for the shortest period of time out of any group of people in the history of man-kind, yet they're the only ones who still complain about it, or take ownership over words, or blame others for what happened, or demand anything from other people based on what happened to thier ancestors
Wrong, what you should do is respect my race and my history. Your the ones who are making complaints about my race and how we did nothing but re-model a word just because we wanted to cherish our ancestors. Opressed for the shortest time? It was for over 400 years! How is that bad????

How are we blaming you???? How is this an insult to you? There are plenty of things that are owned in this world . This can't be that big of a deal. Seriously, stop trying to control over everything in the world.

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The hotel itself is the English Language, do you get the analogy now? You have no right to ban someone from something that you do not own, you can not own a language, or a word.
No shit. If It's my hotel room and was appointed to me then yes it is. Who said we own the english language? It's the word. You aren't even able to remember the topic were on. Nice.

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You are physically unable to go a day without using the word/insult 'idiot'? It is a REQUIRED word in every day conversation!? How DARE you use that word that was used to opress unintelligent people, that is THIER word, and you have NO RIGHT to use it.
That was example. No one really says that word. Plus, no one uses that to oppress people as much. Also I don't use that word. That's no ones.. It's EVERYONE's.

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Really now? Isn't that what this entire thread is about, how you have exclusive rights to a word because it was used in the past to ridicule you?
Yes. You use the word to make fun of us and we get every right to use the word.

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HEY, that word was used to opress women, you have NO RIGHT to use that word, you sexist bastard.

You sound like such a lame. It's ot used top oppress women. Period. The ones with less self respect for themselves but no not to disrespect women.

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You honestly think that they would enjoy you taking the word that was used to insult them, and saying it to each other all the time? That's your way of respecting them, by calling each other the insult?

You can respect your ancestors on your own time, in your prayers, by visiting thier grave, or mourning on a specific day, like the rest of us do
Tell me, how the hell do you expect to find a grave of thousands of black people who died over 400 years ago. America has been re-made buddy It's longer the same none of the same graves from before.That's you,and that's emo. Were trying to do something special. Big whup.

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If my Father's name was Richard I wouldn't spaz out every time someone said the word and then tell them they're not allowed to use it
Wow, you must really not care about your own pride. Talk about a disgrace.
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Old 11/30/06, 06:40 AM   #320
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The man is the one who spoils thing because of his racist dimensional imagination and his version of racism. Not only is he a racist but is one of the most hated people. In this case: You. You TMM and Phoenix count as the man. Because you both have problems with races besides your own. "Responsibility free card"? Tell me how long did it take you to come up with that dumb name?
Lying is for the weak. Nobody here has problem with races. The problem is with you.

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Can you be smarter?
Another insult. It's what you base your argument on.

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If I wasn't black I'm pretty sure I wouldn't,ve said the word now would I?
Well I have black blood. "******" and "nigga" are open to me, no?

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Because that means your a racist. So stop saying the word. I'm gonna say It nicely once more...Stop saying..the word. Because that what you said to us b ack then
SN wasn't alive back then. Stop blaming other people for stuff they didn't do.

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Actually, your the one who keeps on coming back with very useless arguements. You can't even give a good reason why It's wrong for me to say the word. It doesn't matter If I'm black or nor, and that's such a very,very poor excuse. That's like saying It's alright for Illegal Mexican immigrants to cross over to Mexico. Truly racist comment. You really are showing your true colors.. my friend.
As opposed to you not giving a non-racist reason why white people can't say the word?

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I'm saying stop comparing this to video games cuz It's different. Okay? There is no racism In Halo and black people don't run around with guns and swords.

You tell me. Where the hell did the Halo comment come from? If you wanna go play video games so badly go. Okay, bye. You bring irrelevance to the table I brings flames along with it.
It's an analogy. Do you lack understanding on that subject, as well?

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I think the hypersensitivity lies with all of you. I don't see ANYONE making complains about this topic. It's "Nigga" and I'm going to tell you for the last time: Stop saying the word. NOW. It's because everyone in the world always has to have to let power go to their head and think that they should have control over everything in the world.
Like you, who thinks he has ownership over a language.

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I'm saying that were exposed to things worse then this. Teen pregnancy, crack addicts, police abusing the law, disunity, corrupt goverment officials, black on black crime, television. Tell me do I need to say more?
Oh, because white people don't have all those things, plus white on white violence?

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What? How is it that we consider ourselves the master race? So your saying that were the same as the Nazi's? First off, Hitler and the rest of the Nazi's would kill the jews and would make them look stupid,and torment them. Do you SEE black people do that to everyone else. Were the same as anyone else we all have hte same privledges as anyone else. Now, your being stupid. Stop tripping were still human. It's you and everyone else because of your lack of faith within black people. See this is what makes you "the man".
Au contraire, by claiming ownership over things nobody has ownership of, you want *more* privileges.

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Tell me what the hell are you doing?
Judging you based on your argument, as opposed to you judging us based on our race.

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Girls never call each other bitches. Black people respect women, I mean each and everyone of them. The only we call bitches that are the ones that are at the clubs since they don't respect for their body and just have sex non-stop. That is a term of disrespect to all women. Rappers also call them bitches because they're supposed to role-play as being hoes but are really women with self-respect. Big difference dude.
Man, you failed English. He meant *all* women don't go around calling themselves "bitches" as opposed you black people calling themselves "nigga", even though females have been below man for a hell of a longer time than black people.

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Wrong, what you should do is respect my race and my history. Your the ones who are making complaints about my race and how we did nothing but re-model a word just because we wanted to cherish our ancestors. Opressed for the shortest time? It was for over 400 years! How is that bad????
Jewish people have been persecuted for over 2 thousand years, and they're not blaming the man. Women have been oppressed since the dawn of mankind, and they're not blaming the man.

400 years is child's play.

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How are we blaming you???? How is this an insult to you? There are plenty of things that are owned in this world . This can't be that big of a deal. Seriously, stop trying to control over everything in the world.
Again, you're the one who wants to have control. Words belong to *no one*. How is that controlling?

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No shit. If It's my hotel room and was appointed to me then yes it is. Who said we own the english language? It's the word. You aren't even able to remember the topic were on. Nice.
Again, your failure at grasping even the simplest analogies is impressive. The hotel room is public, people use it, but it belongs to nobody who's sleeping in it. You're sleeping in the hotel and I track mud in it, you have no right to ban me from it because it's not yours.

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That was example. No one really says that word. Plus, no one uses that to oppress people as much. Also I don't use that word. That's no ones.. It's EVERYONE's.
According to your own logic, you can't use it.

LOL STOP TRYING TO CONTROL EVERYTHING! CHILDISH NOTION!

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You sound like such a lame. It's ot used top oppress women. Period. The ones with less self respect for themselves but no not to disrespect women.
Same for black people. Those who have self-respect don't say it. You apparently use it.

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Tell me, how the hell do you expect to find a grave of thousands of black people who died over 400 years ago. America has been re-made buddy It's longer the same none of the same graves from before.That's you,and that's emo. Were trying to do something special. Big whup.
1. it was a symbolic example. Seriously, how old are you?
2. You're using a word that was used to enslave them. Yup, that's special alright.

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Wow, you must really not care about your own pride. Talk about a disgrace.
By the gods.... I don't even know how to respond to this. It's a disgrace to not flip every time someone says..... Richard?


Btw, I've give up trying to correct your grammar. It's too disgraceful.
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Old 11/30/06, 09:38 AM   #321
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The man is the one who spoils thing because of his racist dimensional imagination and his version of racism. Not only is he a racist but is one of the most hated people. In this case: You. You TMM and Phoenix count as the man. Because you both have problems with races besides your own. "Responsibility free card"? Tell me how long did it take you to come up with that dumb name?
You see? This is what I'm talking about. You use "The Man" as a scapegoat, a label you can slap onto nearly anything you wish to keep that veil of self-righteousness over your eyes. There isn't even any substance to it. It's the "fag" for black people.

I have not a problem with a race, but racists that try to justify their views. You, for example, have been going on and on about how you are "allowed" to use a word because of your race. That is racism, which I have been saying this whole time, yet you have yet to address it at all. You've been so focused on labeling anyone who disagrees with you a racist that you have become one.

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Can you be smarter?
It's like you're not even trying.

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If I wasn't black I'm pretty sure I wouldn't,ve said the word now would I?
You only prove my point. It's "okay" to use because of your race. That's racism. How many times must we say it before you'll realize it?

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Because that means your a racist. So stop saying the word. I'm gonna say It nicely once more...Stop saying..the word. Because that what you said to us b ack then
So I should stop using the word "******?"

Yeah, because everyone knows that I'm over 140 years old, and I owned a plantation with a stable of slaves.

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Actually, your the one who keeps on coming back with very useless arguements. You can't even give a good reason why It's wrong for me to say the word. It doesn't matter If I'm black or nor, and that's such a very,very poor excuse. That's like saying It's alright for Illegal Mexican immigrants to cross over to Mexico. Truly racist comment. You really are showing your true colors.. my friend.
The only reason why you think my arguments are "useless" is because you're too dense/stubborn to understand them. I have been giving one damned good reason why you shouldn't use the word since I first joined this lovely little conversation. It's racism, e.i. preferrential treatment based upon race, e.i. allowing only black people to use a word. <-See it now? You missed it in bold text and italicized text before, perhaps I should try to make it stand out a little more.

ALLOWING BLACKS TO SAY "******" TO EACH OTHER BECAUSE THEY ARE BLACK IS RACISM.

...or was that too subtle for you?

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I'm saying stop comparing this to video games cuz It's different. Okay?
...and I'm saying that you don't understand the basic concept of an analogy.


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You tell me. Where the hell did the Halo comment come from? If you wanna go play video games so badly go. Okay, bye. You bring irrelevance to the table I brings flames along with it.
a·nal·o·gy [P] n. pl. a·nal·o·gies

1. 1. Similarity in some respects between things that are otherwise dissimilar.
2. A comparison based on such similarity. See Synonyms at likeness.
2. Biology. Correspondence in function or position between organs of dissimilar evolutionary origin or structure.
3. A form of logical inference or an instance of it, based on the assumption that if two things are known to be alike in some respects, then they must be alike in other respects.

^taken from American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition

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I think the hypersensitivity lies with all of you. I don't see ANYONE making complains about this topic. It's "Nigga" and I'm going to tell you for the last time: Stop saying the word. NOW.
Funnily, I don't see any complaints about this topic from anyone, not even those who choose to argue the opposing viewpoint (the correct one). They are simply making an opposing argument by pointing out the inherent flaws in your logic (more like illogic AMIRITE).

[sardonism]But then I forgot arguing against the viewpoint of someone who happens to be black is racism.[/sardonism]

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It's because everyone in the world always has to have to let power go to their head and think that they should have control over everything in the world.
...kind of like how you think black people should have power over the use of this word?

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They think an era of sadness such as that is something that is used to bash them and the day and age we live in.
...because it is. Think about it. It happened in the past, yet everytime something goes awry we always hear some black folk playing the racism card. It rarely makes any sense to boot.

UR RASIST CUZ MY ANCESTORZ WER SLAVES!!1!shift+1!1!


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I'm saying that were exposed to things worse then this. Teen pregnancy, crack addicts, police abusing the law, disunity, corrupt goverment officials, black on black crime, television. Tell me do I need to say more?
How that came from the italicized quote below is beyond me.

We lack the use of one word, yet we get to say over a billion other words. Hardly, seems unfair.

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What? How is it that we consider ourselves the master race? So your saying that were the same as the Nazi's? First off, Hitler and the rest of the Nazi's would kill the jews and would make them look stupid,and torment them. Do you SEE black people do that to everyone else. Were the same as anyone else we all have hte same privledges as anyone else. Now, your being stupid.
Holy ****...I have never seen anyone fail this hard a reading comprehension. It's like I'm typing to a chimp...which is pretty unfair to the chimp, because even a chimp can comprehend sign language.

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Stop tripping were still human. It's you and everyone else because of your lack of faith within black people. See this is what makes you "the man".
How does opposing reverse racism make me racist?

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And once again I say If you keep on coming at me like this then your obviously bitter.
You're damn right I'm bitter. Do you have any idea how often I hear this retroactive guilt/reverse racism bullshit? It's getting very old, and it's hypocritical to the very core; yet somehow people can still get away with using it as leverage.

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Also It's racism If you say the N-word.
It's because I'm white, isn't it?

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So that basically makes you the racist one. Seriously, are you retarded?
I heard that one before. Come on, if all you're going to do is rely on insults, at least call me something more creative.

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Do you not know what racism is?
Evidently it's using logic and reason to disprove the argument of some hypocrite who happens to be black.

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Your obviously showing it. Seriously, your definition is very retarded.
I ripped it right out of the American Heritage Dictionary. If you don't like the definition, take it up with them.

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Racism also means:

prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on such a belief : a program to combat racism.

Tell me what the hell are you doing?
Arguing against a racist viewpoint, which evidently makes me racist by your standards.

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How does it look like were insulting them? We use the word as a key word to remember when they were tormented and when they were freed.
...by using a derogatory term. That's like...wait, I'd better not use an analogy. I wouldn't want to fry all twenty of the working synapses in your cortex.

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How is that retro-active guilt? Stop using big words unless you know how to use them properly, please.
Do you even know what it means?

Retro-active guilt is using the memory some event(s) that has since passed to instill a sense of guilt, which is exactly what you're doing when you start bringing slavery into this mess.

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Since you like video games I,ll put it this way.:

The word is the same thing Kairi's pendant mean't to Sora. Something used to cherish their memories,k? Not EXPLOIT.
Oh, bullshit! You exploit the "memory" of slavery and oppression that was done with long before you were born. You're not remembering shit, save that everyone who isn't black is too afraid to be labeled as "racist" to stand up to your dirty trick. If you really wanted to honor the memory of your ancestors, you'd be using the fruits of their labors (the Civil Rights movement) to be successful and live at peace with your neighbors, not sling around a racial slur as a trump card in any given confrontation.

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Actually, we do. We share the same language but not the same word. Much less a word that was taken advantage of and used to insult us. For us part of our history they didn't say the words towards themselves however in your history you said it billions of times. Insulting,and whipping them.
See what I mean? Retro-active guilt.

Protip: It only works on people dumb enough not to realize they aren't responsible for what happened decades before they were born.


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From what I can tell. Not much black people even use that word. In fact, I'm positive. That word is a cheap rip off of the N-word. Because white people kept saying that word on and on. Besides you keep on saying the N-word. You say that and we have every right to call you C-word. That's your word probaly only the ignorant people say that word. Not all black people say that word. Besides the H word is more the fad that some black people call white people.
Another double standard? I do believe so.

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Also stop acting stupid. We can say "white" we can say "black'. You however cannot say the N-word". No, that's just innappropiate.
Then you shouldn't be allowed to say it either.

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Girls never call each other bitches. Black people respect women, I mean each and everyone of them. The only we call bitches that are the ones that are at the clubs since they don't respect for their body and just have sex non-stop. That is a term of disrespect to all women. Rappers also call them bitches because they're supposed to role-play as being hoes but are really women with self-respect. Big difference dude.
Oh? You can speak for an entire race?

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Wrong, what you should do is respect my race and my history. Your the ones who are making complaints about my race and how we did nothing but re-model a word just because we wanted to cherish our ancestors. Opressed for the shortest time? It was for over 400 years! How is that bad????
...because calling your bullshits makes us racist?

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How are we blaming you???? How is this an insult to you? There are plenty of things that are owned in this world . This can't be that big of a deal. Seriously, stop trying to control over everything in the world.
Seriously, what's with your oppression complex? No one is trying to "control over everything in the world." No one is oppressing you. No one is shoving something that happened centuries ago in your face. No one is doing anything to you except addressing your argument.

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No shit. If It's my hotel room and was appointed to me then yes it is. Who said we own the english lan