I tried Cocaine for the first time.

[Ecstasy]

Originally Posted by Adamus

thats not overdramatic if that's the term you put it under, it is a comparison to an actual conversation you weren't a part of. I can also see that you have no idea of some of the things you write in response. Marijuana causes dillusion and affect to the main functions of the brain inducing hallucinogens and the loss of brain cells. Its not lung cancer but because its not lung cancer doesn't mean it doesnt harm you, in fact i rest my case here

dont get too overdramatic about me ignoring you

Do you know what over dramatic means? Do you know what comparison means? And do some damn research, man.
Myths and Facts About Marijuana

None of the medical tests currently used to detect brain damage in humans have found harm from marijuana, even from long term high-dose use. An early study reported brain damage in rhesus monkeys after six months exposure to high concentrations of marijuana smoke. In a recent, more carefully conducted study, researchers found no evidence of brain abnormality in monkeys that were forced to inhale the equivalent of four to five marijuana cigarettes every day for a year. The claim that marijuana kills brain cells is based on a speculative report dating back a quarter of a century that has never been supported by any scientific study.

[*~NeoAdamus~*]

Originally Posted by revarai20

I want to be drug-free, after drug-free is the way to be and yeah, people tried it and got addicted. So I don't know what to say, other then I don't get into a situation where I end up with drugs.

that's the spirit revarai20
dont let peer pressure put you in the situation of drugs especially. Unless maybe it's your doctor

Oh and ignoring what baka ushi says above, never PM someone in frustration over a debate, its overrated and immature

[kazukifafner]

Originally Posted by TheMuffinMan

In what way are drugs very dangerous, and a multitude of other every day things are not? Sky Diving or bungee jumping gives people a temporary experience, I guess it's one not worth having because it's so unnecessary.

In what way? Are you kidding me? Someone who seems to know a lot about the subject shouldn't have to ask that question. Also, if you are asking for the difference between drugs and skydiving, it's because whether you like it or not, it effects others around you (such as family, friends, or even complete strangers). I'm no expert, but I'd say it is safe to assume that more people are killed by drunk drivers than by drunk sky divers.

[Ecstasy]

Originally Posted by Adamus

Oh and ignoring what baka ushi says above, never PM someone in frustration over a debate, its overrated and immature

Originally Posted by Adamus from a PM

call me strange, but i love a woman who puts on a good fight(not to take it too seriously). If you wanna chat more just pm me

.

[*~NeoAdamus~*]

ah, i see you missed the pun...............

but i really do love a woman who puts on a good fight

[Just as Planned]

ego masturbation

tool a: hey guys i'm going to be drug free! not like the faggot op!
tool b: omg u r so rite

anyways regardless yeah adamus you should consider getting a job that involves sucking cocks in the future because i guarantee that you would be extremely skilled at it

[*~NeoAdamus~*]

are you saying i'd get payed to do what you choke on for free

[x_heartsbreak_x]

lols wow. uhmmmmmmmmmmm good job o_O;;

[TheMuffinMan]

Originally Posted by kazukifafner

In what way? Are you kidding me? Someone who seems to know a lot about the subject shouldn't have to ask that question. Also, if you are asking for the difference between drugs and skydiving, it's because whether you like it or not, it effects others around you (such as family, friends, or even complete strangers). I'm no expert, but I'd say it is safe to assume that more people are killed by drunk drivers than by drunk sky divers.

I did not say "in what way are Drugs dangerous", I said "in what ways are Drugs any more dangerous then a multitude of things we do in our everyday lives" (see: everything I listed before). From walking, to writing, to sitting in a chair the wrong way, to skateboarding, everything deteriorates our health, so what, are Drugs killing you in a super special way that everything else is not? Saying that "Drugs are going to hurt you later in life" isn't exactly very convincing, when the same could be said for every headache medicine, diet drink, or particularly greasy breakfast you have.

And might I add that there are no more known cases of someone under the influence of MDMA, Weed, or any other recreational drugs harming another person in something like a driving incident, then there are of people dying from coconuts falling off of trees. People on recreational drugs have no infamous record or history of being a danger to those around them, while (as you kindly point out) there are enough cases of people on legal substances such as Alcohol or Sleeping Pills hurting themselves or those around them to fill up the library of congress several times over

The fact that drugs are illegal is harming more people then those who use the substances themselves. Gang crime, robberies, border smuggling; crime syndicates are fueled by the fact that Drugs are illegal, the fact that they're illegal means that they get to make a business out of exploiting the fact that they are so. People should take a page from the history books on Prohibition: it doesn't work, making it illegal causes much more harm to citizens then if the substances are legal and thus allowed to be controlled, regulated, and taxed by legitimate businesses and the Government.

[risingfalls]

Originally Posted by TheMuffinMan

The fact that drugs are illegal is harming more people then those who use the substances themselves. Gang crime, robberies, border smuggling; crime syndicates are fueled by the fact that Drugs are illegal, the fact that they're illegal means that they get to make a business out of exploiting the fact that they are so. People should take a page from the history books on Prohibition: it doesn't work, making it illegal causes much more harm to citizens then if the substances are legal and thus allowed to be controlled, regulated, and taxed by legitimate businesses and the Government.

Agreed.
Prohibition spurred the rise of gangsters, etc., just as drugs being illegal spurs drug trafficking, money laundering, etc.
Amsterdam is a great example of a city that realizes prohibition doesn't work. I think they've come up with a great way to control drug use.


But I'm not saying that you should go on a drug binge or whatnot.
I still think that drugs are (for the most part) bad.
Some drugs are effing dangerous.

[Joaxshu]

this reminds me of a video my physiology teacher showed our class
it was on a place in Sweden i think it was called needle park where they told the people that they could do drugs but only in that park. they would let them exchange there old dirty needles for clean ones. apparently it got kinda out of hand to the point where people would just basically live there. they tried to shut it down but they people just moved back to the streets so they opened it up again unable to shut it down and let the druggies wonder the streets

[monkeybutt]

walking and writing do not deteriorate health to the extent of drugs.

[*~NeoAdamus~*]

Originally Posted by TheMuffinMan

I did not say "in what way are Drugs dangerous", I said "in what ways are Drugs any more dangerous then a multitude of things we do in our everyday lives" (see: everything I listed before). From walking, to writing, to sitting in a chair the wrong way, to skateboarding, everything deteriorates our health, so what, are Drugs killing you in a super special way that everything else is not? Saying that "Drugs are going to hurt you later in life" isn't exactly very convincing, when the same could be said for every headache medicine, diet drink, or particularly greasy breakfast you have.

And might I add that there are no more known cases of someone under the influence of MDMA, Weed, or any other recreational drugs harming another person in something like a driving incident, then there are of people dying from coconuts falling off of trees. People on recreational drugs have no infamous record or history of being a danger to those around them, while (as you kindly point out) there are enough cases of people on legal substances such as Alcohol or Sleeping Pills hurting themselves or those around them to fill up the library of congress several times over

The fact that drugs are illegal is harming more people then those who use the substances themselves. Gang crime, robberies, border smuggling; crime syndicates are fueled by the fact that Drugs are illegal, the fact that they're illegal means that they get to make a business out of exploiting the fact that they are so. People should take a page from the history books on Prohibition: it doesn't work, making it illegal causes much more harm to citizens then if the substances are legal and thus allowed to be controlled, regulated, and taxed by legitimate businesses and the Government.

much like cigarettes, and for all the drugs that are illegal, ppl are so dependent on smoking a cig but say otherwise to weed. you kill your lungs and the people in your range of smoke. When my mom smokes, which she doesn't mean to do in front of me, the smoke goes straight into my range of breathing and then my chest start to hurt

[kazukifafner]

Originally Posted by TheMuffinMan

I did not say "in what way are Drugs dangerous", I said "in what ways are Drugs any more dangerous then a multitude of things we do in our everyday lives" (see: everything I listed before). From walking, to writing, to sitting in a chair the wrong way, to skateboarding, everything deteriorates our health, so what, are Drugs killing you in a super special way that everything else is not? Saying that "Drugs are going to hurt you later in life" isn't exactly very convincing, when the same could be said for every headache medicine, diet drink, or particularly greasy breakfast you have.

And might I add that there are no more known cases of someone under the influence of MDMA, Weed, or any other recreational drugs harming another person in something like a driving incident, then there are of people dying from coconuts falling off of trees. People on recreational drugs have no infamous record or history of being a danger to those around them, while (as you kindly point out) there are enough cases of people on legal substances such as Alcohol or Sleeping Pills hurting themselves or those around them to fill up the library of congress several times over

The fact that drugs are illegal is harming more people then those who use the substances themselves. Gang crime, robberies, border smuggling; crime syndicates are fueled by the fact that Drugs are illegal, the fact that they're illegal means that they get to make a business out of exploiting the fact that they are so. People should take a page from the history books on Prohibition: it doesn't work, making it illegal causes much more harm to citizens then if the substances are legal and thus allowed to be controlled, regulated, and taxed by legitimate businesses and the Government.

So, basically, what you are saying is:

"We already do things that are bad for our health, so why not add to it with drugs?"

Any drug that hinders your ability to think rationally can effect strangers in a physical way, the number of reported cases doesn't diminish it as a possibility. Also, it can also affect your family and friends mentally, as they might be worried about you, or simply don't like the way that you are acting.

In regards to your gang point: While I admit, it was certainly a good thing to bring up, and it is a valid argument. The problem is that if you make drugs legal, then they will just find something else to exploit (either that, or they will just go straight to robbery, mugging, etc.).

[*~NeoAdamus~*]

its true that if drugs no longer make these gangs and druglords important, crime rates are possible to make a dangerous shift