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Old 05-22-2008, 08:55 PM   #16
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That actually does make sense because my mom did that to one of her enemies and then she started
something with my mom just so things would be back to normal.This makes no sense its so weird.
Well your enemies do everything in their power to destroy you, right?
well...when you forgive them is like you're giving them a free pass.
and the thing that annoys them is that they don't know why your letting them.
get it?

I.... may or may not forgive depending on the situation.
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Old 05-22-2008, 11:57 PM   #17
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what does it take to be forgiven....in your eyes of course........this does not necessarily pertain to religion in all honesty i don't give a crap about religion. but how do you go about being forgiven
To be forgiven by me, you'd have to admit your mistake, consider the people involved, promise you won't do it again, buy me a taco (if I'm in the mood). I'd probably ask for other things but I can't think of them right now.

All this talk of forgiving your enemies reminds me a lot Jean Valjean and Javert from Les Misearbles. O.o
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Old 05-23-2008, 12:54 PM   #18
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i guess in order to better understand what i want forgiveness from i should list the problem...*sigh* i really never told too many ppl this.........okay from the time i was 7-13 i was raped by my best friend. i would get beat and junk and he was the only person i had.i was so alone and i hated the thought of it i never told my parents i just was too ashamed still am they will NEVER know cause really i hate them for other shit almost as much as i hate myself. i still can't forgive myself for being so weak.......now things are getting complicated as my past catches up to me. i only told this to a few ppl those i deemed i could trust but now those same ppl are causing more grief for me and with this problem idk what the hell im doing. no i won't ignore you
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Honey, listen to me ok (or read whatever)

How the hell is that something that YOU need forgiveness from? You were the victim, you should be the one that your so called friend seeks forgiveness from.

It is horrible what happened to you, but it wasn't your fault, sometimes it is very hard to talk when we are faced with some situations, but that doesn't mean that what happened was your fault.

You are NOT weak, what happened to you does not make you weak. The fact that you are still alive and still breathing, still carrying on, that proves that you are not weak.

So you can't talk to your parents, ok fair enough, I fully empathise with that, but there are other people you can talk, friends, councillors etc, there are websites and groups, numbers you can call.

Honey you are not alone and you are not weak. The people you trusted, I am sorry that they let you down, it is hard when that happens.

If you want to talk more, you can PM me if you want, I wont laugh at you and I will listen, but you have got to stop being so down on yourself and being mad at yourself.

You. Are. Not. Weak. You were a kid, it was not your fault.
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Old 05-23-2008, 01:17 PM   #20
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i guess in order to better understand what i want forgiveness from i should list the problem...*sigh* i really never told too many ppl this.........okay from the time i was 7-13 i was raped by my best friend. i would get beat and junk and he was the only person i had.i was so alone and i hated the thought of it i never told my parents i just was too ashamed still am they will NEVER know cause really i hate them for other shit almost as much as i hate myself. i still can't forgive myself for being so weak.......now things are getting complicated as my past catches up to me. i only told this to a few ppl those i deemed i could trust but now those same ppl are causing more grief for me and with this problem idk what the hell im doing. no i won't ignore you
Dude, it's nothing that YOU did wrong. At all. Your "friend" is the one who should be seeking forgiveness, but even still, I don't think there's any way you can forgive him for this six years. Getting abused, molested, what have you... those things don't happen between "friends".

People should see that you're the one who was hurt. Your past, though I'm sure it's embarrassing... isn't your fault. This isn't like an anime or something... there is no "I was weak" blah blah blah. You were a victim. It happens to many people, including many morally and emotionally strong and sturdy people.

You need to surround yourself with positive influences and people who support you regardless of the circumstances or what happened in the past. You just have to live for today, live for tomorrow. What happened can't be changed, but if you want to be strong, you have to hold your head up high and push through these hard times.
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Old 05-23-2008, 06:10 PM   #21
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I tihnk forgiving some one should be alot easier than we make it seem
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Old 05-23-2008, 06:35 PM   #22
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i know you guys are right....but the thing is i was so afraid of being left alone *i was hated when i was little* that i let him do w/e to me i didn't even fight back....that's NOT like me if it had been anyone else id have kicked ass ya know? i just....idk....now he might be moving back down to my school for our senior year and....idk what'll i'll do if i'll beat the snot outta him or run away and do nothing again.....
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i know you guys are right....but the thing is i was so afraid of being left alone *i was hated when i was little* that i let him do w/e to me i didn't even fight back....that's NOT like me if it had been anyone else id have kicked ass ya know? i just....idk....now he might be moving back down to my school for our senior year and....idk what'll i'll do if i'll beat the snot outta him or run away and do nothing again.....
you change...thats about as simple as it gets...people change...im not sayin that all people change because thats not always true, but you've grown up since then and your attitude changes...and now i know its based more on hate for him doin it to you than then when it was not wanting to be left alone.
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kristen dear if you just now realized im full of hate for him as well as myself.....nvm your right i have changed more than i can ever show. and before you ask this is not the main reason im upset today. >>
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kristen dear if you just now realized im full of hate for him as well as myself.....nvm your right i have changed more than i can ever show. and before you ask this is not the main reason im upset today. >>
<.< first off i knew that - you told me already - i knew you had a lot of hate for him and i cant tell you the easiest way to forgive him - if that is even ever possible but if it is i hope you find a way - honestly since it has never happened to me i cant tell you how you should forgive him or if its even possible to even try.


[and i knew that wasnt the reason]
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idk if i even want to forgive him at all
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Old 05-23-2008, 08:12 PM   #27
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idk if i even want to forgive him at all
that is your choice to forgive him or not
hopefully whatever you choose to do benefits you to the absolute most
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when has anything ive done every equaled out to benifit me? lulz
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when has anything ive done every equaled out to benifit me? lulz

>.<" not the point
thats what i meant but not the point <.<

its your choice though - i'll support yah what ever way you choose :D
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Old 05-23-2008, 09:02 PM   #30
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Hm, reminds me of the conversation between Vincent and Cloud. xD

Well, if I'm to contribute to the litter of overused sayings:

"At times it's hardest to forgive yourself." =OO
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