Masturbating

[Cicero]

Originally Posted by CAB_IV

i really hope you didn't google search it. DO you know how many crackpots make internet sites about things? You need valid studies from legitimate organizations, which ironically enough, is where my textbooks get their information. Since they are all up to date, i'm pretty confident in what they tell me.

I already said where I got my theory from.

How so? what is physiologically addicting about masturbation? Pleasure is a sensation, not a physical thing. sensations are not physiological addictions.

Sorry, I misread your post. Forget it.

When you take AP classes, they don't give you old text books. All of mine are from this year.

Ok. What are AP classes? Just curious. Please PM me or something, as it would be off topic, lol.

But you see, it is addictive. Your body develops a physiological dependancy on the nicotine in order to function properly.

I disagree, as I said.

since you bring up food, you should note that food itself is not addictive. Its what the person gains from eating the food, and in these cases, its going to be deeper than that fat guy went to McDonalds once and now thats all he wants to eat.

Yes, this is exactly the point I'm trying to make. It is addictive for what you gain from it. A feeling of happiness in most cases, with drugs too. This is the same with masturbation or any other things. Masturbation giving you pleasure.

Its because your theory isn't really up for debate. unlike your theory, physiological addiction is not a in dispute by science. Its accepted fact. Your only validation is "trust me".

It is not an accepted fact.

Nicotine for one thing is an unwelcome chemical in the brain. it PHYSICALLY causes the release of dopamine neuro transmitters, giving smokers that pleasureable feeling. This can only become psychologically addictive if a person needs it to feel alright. Its so unwelcome that the body has to change it's chemistry to work properly. When you try to remove the nicotine from your body, your brain chemistry is left set up and used to the presencse of nicotine. Without the nicotine, this new setup simply won't work, so your body produces a physiological dependency on nictotine, other wise your body won't be able to function right until you can return to normal.

This is untrue. There are a lot of other factors that you didn't point out that prove that. As I will state later on in this post, I do not want to go further into this. Read further.

But you see, your test is already invalid. There is a combination of different psychological effects here that would cause your experiment to fail under scrutiny.

For one thing, we have the placebo effect. They think they are taking in alcohol, and so they will act like it. them thinking it was beer was enough.

This totally destroys the validity, because what will happen is that they could have gone either way. Just because it correlates does not mean causation. All your experiments prooves is the existence of the placebo effect, not that people only feel addicted if they know they are taking in an "addictive" chemical.

What you should have done would be to find similarly built freinds (because weight and body compostition can effect how drunk you are), give some the non-alcoholic beer, and the others actual beer. You should keep them seperated so they don't influence eachother. MOST IMPORTANTLY OF ALL DO NOT TELL THEM WHAT THEY ARE DRINKING. it will ruin it and induce the placebo effect, and people will just act drunk, but won't be really (they won't have hang overs). What you'll find is that those with the non-alcholic beer won't be drunk, but the ones with real beer will be.

Even if you tell the group who is drinking the real beer that they aren't, they will still get drunk, i garuntee it.
Your experiment is just a failure, because it leaves to many open ends and doesn't really proove anything.

Point taken. One thing; They did have hangovers. How that worked is a totally different thing, which we are not going to go into right now. We should actually, to point out how rellative this simple 'failed' experiment actually is.

You don't need to make anything easier for me. I'm way more intelligent than that. I couldn't care less whether others understand. I just want to prove you wrong, because the second you admit defeat, people will probably believe me because of all my long drawn out posts, because your experiments and other reasons are lacking, and because i use more sceintific evidence to back myself up. People themselves will probably oversimplify what type and just go with it. You have to love the power of psychology.

One question: Do you know what a discussion is? Do you know how a discussion, or even a debate works? It seems not, as you don't even know that a discussion or debate is not about winning. It is about DISCUSSING the problem at hand, and togheter search for a solution, or the best explanation. Right now, at the part where we talked about food, I think we got to a good solution of the problem at hand: Is masturbation addictive, and how come it is so?

Yeah, he'll have to do a really good job of explaining that theory, considering the sceintific community has already accepted how nicotine causes addiction.

Actually, it is a common known fact that nicotine is not addictive where I live. I am the one failing to back my statement up now, as I don't have proper resources. I apologise, let's continue this another time when I have searched up on my information. Let us also attendent to the other thing I stated in that next discussion. The one I didn't want to go into further.

Your own expieriences with drugs may not even be a valid arguement, because we don't know what drugs you've taken.

XTC, LSD, SPEED, Sigaretes, Weed, Hasj, BC2



All together, like I said, I think we've come to a good solution, from now on only try to argument that part, and not the rest off the discussion, as it is off topic. I will not reply to any other things.

I'm sorry again for failing to back my theory up with evidence and facts at this moment, but please, don't go arround accusing me off not knowing what I'm talking about, as you did so through the lines. I would love to hear more of what you think the thruth is about addictions, but another time.

And please, restrict yourself from saying anything in the context of 'you are scared' or 'i pwned you' or as I could say in your case 'You just got offline because you can't win.', or anything among those lines. I told you my reason for ending this discussion. Respect it.

[BloodyHell]

um....what is masturbateting?

[Veritas]

Look it up in google images.

[Cicero]

Masturbating is pleasuring yourself.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by BloodyHell

um....what is masturbateting?

You're a female, right? You've probably just never heard it referred to as such. Most women call it "a long, hot bath".

/stolen joke from Dave Attell

[Cicero]

Lol.

[Darkly Aesthetic]

Originally Posted by BloodyHell

um....what is masturbateting?

I will tell you. Masturbation is when you rub your genitals until you have an orgasm. Wow!

[Guardian Soul]

Originally Posted by BloodyHell

um....what is masturbateting?

Eight years old?

Rofl.

[CtR]

Ok O_O


Well that about wraps up this thread :3

[Honky Sam]

Recommence the masturbation!