ALL RIGHT CM LET'S GET SOME FEEDBACK

[Vayne Mechanics]

So like, can we actually do the full merge. This whole keeping DM/TM their own sections is pretty much defeating the purpose of a merge isn't it? :l

Like, everything seems just all over the place.

My suggestion:

Creative Media
- Competitions [Bi-annual Sketch Discussion section, Sig of the Week Discussion section, Voting Section] - <I guess simple member battles that they like to have every now and then will just go in the main Competition board, but all voting for anything can be done in the Voting section>
- Technique/Application Discussion - <Discuss techniques and how to apply them to your work>
- Resources - <Here we can add both resources and tutorials for both taggers and artists>
- Request Centre [Shops] - <Yes I spell Centre like a frenchie, shut up>

We use the main Creative Media board for all submitted pieces and use the prefixes to differentiate between different kinds of threads.

[ph] - photo
[td] - traditional
[tag] - lol
[spl] - splash size
[lp] - large pieces/wallpaper size
[dp] - digital paint/digipaint or w/e you guys call it idgaf
[mu] - music/amv

So there has been discussion going back and forth about the CM reconstruction and we finally came to an agreement on how it should be setup. Only thing is, it's only agreement between the mods involved and the admins. What we need now is feedback from you guys on this proposed structure and tell us any changes you want to see to what's being proposed.

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[Solar]

I come here alot to admire the work, and to be honest I preferred the old system. However what you proposed here seems like a decent idea.

[Vayne Mechanics]

Old system was fine, but each section had a super small community and TM was barely active and as much as I loved it, it didn't really need its own section. Not only that, but I've seen many TM members also post in DM, so yeah.

Think of CM like this: DM with a little bit of TM in it.

While TM is kind of "anatomy anatomy anatomy", there's a lot of techniques that can benefit both sides equally as much. "Depth" and "lighting" is much more understood and indepth for those on the TM side, but it's also a fundamental portion of tag making. Only by understanding how each works properly will you be able to completely and fully stylize each component to your liking. It's like animation; you need to know proper anatomy and how certain parts of the body effect the audience before you can completely and fully stylize it and actually make it look good. There's a lot of things DM can benefit from TM anyway, and vice versa. A lot of what I can do in PS for adding the finishing touches on my pieces is because I know how to properly manipulate the tools in PS from doing takes all those years ago. On the other hand, DM users can actually start to understand some theory behind colour and composition if they feel the need to.

Anyway, trust me when I say the majority of threads will still be that of DM material after this change.

[Solar]

That's very true and I never considered that. I just hope people use the prefixes properly.

[KHProdigy1]

Colliding communities.
For the sake of avoiding a mess here's hoping the confusion won't get the better of our regular go'ers.

[Zangetsu.]

I think the layout above would actually be way more beneficial to this section. We in the DM would have everything we've already had, and with a discussion section, we can just think of that as a addition. And those of us DM goers who never venture into the TM sections would benefit from seeing new art and grabbing new concepts like Ken stated above. If anything, nothing can get any worse. We'll just have to deal with more traffic is all. No big deal.

[Vayne Mechanics]

Glad to see that there isn't any negative opinions about it so far, but if you do have any, I'd like to hear it. The merge into CM is going to happen whether you guys like it or not, but I want to be able to compromise as much as possible with those who are against it so it's to your liking.

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[Roa]

I personally think the new system is fine, I had a hard time ajusting, but i've gotten used to it, and it works well. :D

[Vayne Mechanics]

Well we're going to change how it is now even further with the proposed structure in the OP. The merge happened, but there was no clean-up and a lot of dispute about the merge. Now that everything's been resolved we can start getting everything on track.

[Kazuma]

I think it's good, people who post mostly in TM will have a much higher chance of getting a post( or more posts) of feedback/ critique than they would now. TM is getting cheated out of visitors and this could help alleviate it. I'm all for it.

Also I laugh at the big mess paranoia panic, TM only has 2,800 threads and 141 pages. DM has almost 14,000 and close to 700 pages.

[Wolfedawg]

I'm really liking that above idea. Only, for the prefixes, I don't think it could hurt to get rid of digital painting and sprite ones. Digital painting because it could either fit into the format of an LP or a splash. Its more of a form of art, not a format. As for sprites, personally, I don't see why it should have its own prefix, I mean, if the kiddies here are going to use a sprite, its most likely going to be in a tag format so why not just make the prefix "tag". Otherwise, I think it's all a pretty great idea.


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Nevermind about the digipaint. I guess it all depends on what kind of digipaint it is. I was thinking more along the lines of like a landscape painting for example. But if it was a portrait or something like that, it wouldn't fit into an splash or LP category.

[Zangetsu.]

Wait so when is the merge gonna be finalized?

[Vayne Mechanics]

EDIT
Nevermind about the digipaint. I guess it all depends on what kind of digipaint it is. I was thinking more along the lines of like a landscape painting for example. But if it was a portrait or something like that, it wouldn't fit into an splash or LP category.

Yeah lol. I was thinking of suggesting specific prefixes for kinds of digital paintings, but it's too vast. Plus I think rather than the size, it's the techniques that you use to create your pieces. Similarly, a digital painting can range in many sizes, and usually the actual canvas size is at least 2000x2000 pixels >:

Wait so when is the merge gonna be finalized?

Probably going to be a slow process since I'm pretty much the only moderator who's working on it. Shamdeo is in-charge, but he's busy with other administrator duties (and ffxiii) so yeah. And then there's me, who is busy w/ sf4, sc4, ro, work and the KHI Sings project that I've been neglecting lately >:

[Wolfedawg]

Also, I think instead of having a shop/request section, we should have it just as the request section, but shops as a subforum. That way it wouldn't be a mess of shops and general request threads.

[Vayne Mechanics]

Ah, that makes sense. The only problem I may see is that people will be hitting up the shops more often than making free requests to anyone available, but I think that would be a good change to the set up.

Editing OP.