Take your place

[Laughing Stock]

Just one word. One word that'll render the un****withable capacities of a 'God Character' practically null and void whilst providing a far more elaborate, strategic and (as far as I'm concerned) enjoyable method of RP battle.

'Melee'.

Geddit? : /

[Chronicle]

I think that was suggested by D2L already :/

Well why doesn't someone take the responsibility of throwing a melee tournament? It would be, as suggested by a few members, more enjoyable.

I guess I could do that.

[Laughing Stock]

Mmm, it was. But I was writing directly to Jopari rather than making a statement. I suppose I should have quoted so as to avert pointed observations and confusion, but meh.

As for a tourney, it would probably be worthwhile, but - and correct me if I'm wrong, by the way. I'm not all that up to speed on the happenings at KHI - I don't think there's been a single successful, never mind completed, RPing tournament at KHI. I think there was one, ages ago, with AJ, ZtM and Morph that went on for a bit, but that's about as far back as my memory stretches and is the last one I've seen get past the starting line.

Fair play to you if you wish to make one and the best of luck to you, but - and I'm sorry to be a great big party pooper or pessimist or what have you - I highly doubt it'll go very far, regardless of who makes it. The RP section's spiral of indolence has spun for too long.

Or I could be wrong and it could be a roaring success. Who knows? I probably wouldn't be in it, anyway, if there was one. I'm trying to get back into RPing, and I don't have the skill to compete at the moment. Later this year, maybe, but certainly not now.

EDIT: Woah, you don't waste any time, do you? Well, good luck, anyways.

[Chronicle]

Yeah I understand that and I partially agree. But it's worth a try.

[Azanulbizare]

As I've said before, Melee will always and forever outweigh Power in terms of creativity, tactic and fun. I agree with BN on his 'literary dance' rant, as well; it really does get tiresome when certain people try to convert particles into sub-atomic "x" and "z" particles, or whatever.

A fight's a fight. I, personally, prefer the more cinematic approach to combat, and believe that is how every match should be thought of.

But that's not the problem. The problem, or should I say epidemic, is inactivity, straight out of the glass. We can't convince ourselves otherwise, or blame it on others - we're bored, we're tired and we're SICK of seeing the same thing over and over again. Unifinished, uncreative (Word?) battles that go no where and serve no purpose. It was fun for a while, but the purpose has escaped.

Battles should be the offspring of Roleplays. Simple as that; it's how it should be, and a real solution to keeping the prospect of battle positive one, rather than a negative, "Oh shit this is gay" one.

[Lord of Chaos]

Well, on the note of PC (Uber) v. Melee (Standard), I have officially retired Valyon from actual battle. Sure, I'm finishing a "fight" with DK, but he's restrained in that one. Val is now officially a God as the terms go, and further use of him would be quite unfair. I've talked about it for a few weeks, best decided to make it official... though he will pop up from time-to-time for things.

In other news, Melee tournaments are good and fun, and hella-creative, but they also do get quite lame at a point. I mean, I go between both styles even though I mainly stay with PC, just because I can throw something random in there. Melee on the other hand, while you can do that, most of the time it just seems unlikely... and the fact that it's just people fighting with weapons, and while, don't get me wrong, I love just duking it out, it can get old real quick... so, something I propose:

A Further Defined Battle Classification.

Think of limits, but in a creative way. Say for instance, you have a PC match, well, PC can really be broken down into what kind of PC you prefer, so we'll say for example these:

PC Styles
- Uber
- Elemental
- Alternative
-Arcane
-Mutant Powers
- Etc. I think you get the idea.

You could break Melee Down further as well:

Melee Styles
- Standard
- Swords Only
- Hands/Feet Only (aka, Martial Arts, Boxing, etc)
- Mild Powers (Say, super strength, nothing too big)
- Random Events (For instance, a bull suddenly breaks out in your fight in Madrid, you have to deal with it first)
- Etc.

While that may seem like a lot more work for something or that it might seem erroneous and unnecessary, I think it could do some good. Course, the styles I listed are just bare-bone examples... you could essentially do anything to them.


Now, on the other hand, the problem of "activity"... well, I said it before, and I'll say it one more time -- that's up to the individual. If they really want to put time and effort and fun into the mixture, they can. If they don't... then they really shouldn't do it in the first place. Sure, shit happens, it's going to, it has before, get over it. However, you should notify your friend/opponent/party/team/etc. of absence, somehow. Hell, we all have Email, so ya'know, if you can't message someone on KHI...you could always do that...

That's enough rambling from me though, I'm old. -goes and limps to a large armchair-

[Sir Meta Knight]

I came to the Challenges section to be creative and use fantasy elements in a battle. Melee doesn't provide that to me. I get bored with it easily for that reason. :/

Melee is not the magic cure to all of our problems. It's people getting off their asses and posting that does such things.

[justme3]

Stop making such a big deal of this stuff and people will be more active and probably join. I'd probably post more if everybody kinda calmed down.

[Just put the Knife DOWN]

I concur with Kegan's proposal.

Awhile back I tried to create a third Style that was in-between Melee and PC, but LoC's method is much more flexible. I don't mind PC battles, so long as they meet a certain limit. Take my battle with SMK ages ago, which actually occured within a roleplay, but nonetheless was rather exciting.

Still, I think a few limits could've been placed on that battle aswell, it was starting to go nowhere, but I apologise for not finishing it. Magic in the sense that we don't forget how difficult it is to perform. Valyon is obviously going to be an exception, but we don't all have to make characters just for the sake of surviving against him. People usually don't challenge Gods, and Gods tend to leave everyone alone.

Rather, Magic in the sense of Fable, obviously a little more complex though, such as DnD variety (as this all seems to be based upon) but with the obvious limits. Powerful spells will usually result in a period of exhaustion, unless an appropriate medium or siphon is used.

This way, PC battles can actually utilize certain aspects of creativity, strategy and originality. Combinations define uniqueness, rather than having every character capable of manipulating every facet of existence. This is partially the reason why Dunjay Talkesh was one of my favourite characters, until he got those staffs and whatnot.

Eh, enough from me, I am hungry.

[Electropop]

I have never tried Melee, and I have no desire what's so ever. I can fight in real life quite well... but when it is its whatever the hell comes to my mind, I make it on the spot to save my ass. x3 But Really...putting it on to paper (Or In this case Keys) Is kinda a hard...In my eyes. xD

[Just put the Knife DOWN]

Originally Posted by Electropop

I have never tried Melee, and I have no desire what's so ever. I can fight in real life quite well... but when it is its whatever the hell comes to my mind, I make it on the spot to save my ass. x3 But Really...putting it on to paper (Or In this case Keys) Is kinda a hard...In my eyes. xD

I just thought that I might add, all for the sake of frivolity, that an Electropop sounds extremely sweet and tasty. The name alone livens my day whenever I venture these forums.

Yes, writing for melee battles is slightly more difficult in terms of descriptiveness and specificy, but it's a useful skill to have. The words themselves could mean life or death, figuratively speaking.

[D2L]

Just echoing LoC and RoA and Bizare here. Broken down styles of battle = win. That way, like Jopari said, new people dont feel inclined to create uber characters out of their ass to compete with the Valyon's and Alkimos' and Ambrose's and Makyu's of the challenge section. They can simply stick to minimal PC battles with powers such as the ones Alkimos had when I first started using him (btw, me and Time's battle contains the ORIGINAL Alkimos Gryphonheart template).

Originally Posted by Rhythm of Apathy

Rather, Magic in the sense of Fable, obviously a little more complex though, such as DnD variety (as this all seems to be based upon) but with the obvious limits. Powerful spells will usually result in a period of exhaustion, unless an appropriate medium or siphon is used.

This way, PC battles can actually utilize certain aspects of creativity, strategy and originality. Combinations define uniqueness, rather than having every character capable of manipulating every facet of existence. This is partially the reason why Dunjay Talkesh was one of my favourite characters, until he got those staffs and whatnot.

This is why I love you Beau, really and truly. Couldn't have put it better myself.


Far as a melee tourney goes, no. Not a Melee tourney, cuz like Kegan said those can get real old real quick. But, how bout a PC tournament with characters like Beau just said? It wouldn't be melee, but there'd be no "god characters" or whatever. Sounds like win-win to me.

[Azanulbizare]

Since we're laying it out on the table, I'd like to propose the idea of "Combo-posting", or whatever someone else feels is appropriate to call it. Two RPers get together (In secret) and work out a post where they both work together, and then one of them writes and posts it.

Just an idea I pulled from the bowels of my urethra.

Also, BN, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT THERE BE AN OOC THREAD FOR EVERY BATTLE/RP. But that's just me. It should be a rule.

[Just put the Knife DOWN]

Originally Posted by D2L

This is why I love you Beau, really and truly. Couldn't have put it better myself.

Haha, show your love with rep, Caleb. People seem to have forgotten the function exists. =P

Originally Posted by Azanulbizare

Also, BN, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT THERE BE AN OOC THREAD FOR EVERY BATTLE/RP. But that's just me. It should be a rule.

I remember another forum that followed a similar rule. It was a tad confusing at first for someone who was unfamilar, but it was definitely more organised. This also makes it easier on the individual who wishes to reference a particular battle/rp, without having to skim through pages of OOC chat.

Well, we're pretty much doing it now anyway, but a few still feel uninclined. Mostly out of laziness, as yours truly can say quite confidently, hahaha.

Originally Posted by Rhythm of Apathy

Well, we're pretty much doing it now anyway, but a few still feel uninclined. Mostly out of laziness, as yours truly can say quite confidently, hahaha.

That, dear sir, is hypocrisy.

[Ankoku]

Shall we have a PC character tournament except one where our characters have little or no control in their respective powers?

I mean, for example, the Sins. Greed has COMPLETE control over metal. Why not have a series of battles where our characters DON'T have complete control. I hate to take this as another example, but it always annoyed me when the new Power Rangers get their power, they know how everything works, has a black belt and knows how to work complex giant machines. So why do our characters know everything possible with their powers?