Comic Books & Graphic Novels

[Johnny Stooge]

Originally Posted by square-enix

Countdown is terrible. I don't give a shit about any of the characters. 52 had much better pacing. I'm a fan of DC but right now, they think a good story consist of killing as many characters as they can. "The History of the Multiverse" is just a waste of space.
On another note, Kyle hasn't appeared yet. Wasn't he slated to be one of the original characters?

I've enjoyed Countdown so far, but I'm about two weeks behind. I like more of the characters in Countdown that I did in 52. Just give it time for Kyle. No doubt he'll be sucked into Jason's part of the story and then there's that "Tour of the Mutliverse" kind book by Marz with Kyle, Jason and Donna, so that'll be good.

As for Flash, I would have enjoyed it alot more if Waid did the entire thing. The launch sucked. The problem with Bart is that he replaced Wally way too soon.

I mean, Barry died a hero but Wally just kind of disappeared into who knows what which made it harder to take Bart seriously because you knew Wally could just return at any minute.

Still, for me having never read Wally and a few Teen Titans books prior to Bart's luanch, I enjoyed it. Guggenheim still managed to turn the book around. Did you read that?

I'm actually finding myself reading more of Marvel recently. World War Hulk, Nova, New Avengers (except issue 31's ending was stupid)

Unfortunately I've got to say the same. DC's in a lull and I just don't care for Amazons Attack even though I'm reading it (Pete Woods on art is worth it). Sinestro Corps is soon so hopefully things'll turn around. Flash has got it's changes and soon JLA will, too.

Bought Fallen Son, World War Hulk, New Warriors and Ultimates 2 #13. WWH and NW were surprisingly good. Ultimates was dragged down by delays. When I get #9 and #10 I'll read it all in one sitting.

[Duo_forbidden]

I just recently picked up Star wars legacy vol 1:broken which takes place 129 years after the desctution of the first death star and I been picking up on the indiviual comics (Last one I bought was Claws of the Dragon, Part 1) and I been wondering if anyone picked on the series how do you like it? Its interesting how they kept some secrets on some of the characters (like Darth Krayt I think I have an idea on who he really is) but how do you like it so far?

I also picked up Fallen Son: The Death of Captain America 1,2,3 and 4 (4 being my favorite so far) and I think its a good series seeing how other Marvel heroes react after the death of Captian America.

Oh I also picked up World War Hulk.....I'm scared.

[Tobuoi]

I'll be the first to admit that I'm kind of a poser-fangirl about these things...meaning, I'm not so much into the graphic novels themselves, but the other sources of the series get me into reading the comics. I don't know if that makes much sense, but for example, after I saw V for Vendetta in theaters, my parents bought me the graphic novel and I really enjoyed it. Another example is the graphic novel, 28 Days Later: The Aftermath. Being a huge fan of the movie, I read the graphic novel.

I really like the idea and plots of a lot graphic novels, it's just the actual format that I'm not too crazy about. It's usually pretty good stuff, though.

[square-enix]

Just pissed and ranting. Ignore.
HAHAHAHA. WOW. My goodness gracious. Not that I didn't see it coming but crap.
Flash #13. I probably don't have to tell you what happens. Pure laziness on their part. Rather then fixing their poor editorial decisions and making it work, they go the easy way. I guess DC will be making use of their beloved Multiverse again.

SPOILER SPORT: TONY DANIEL TALKS FLASH #13 - NEWSARAMA

Still, for me having never read Wally and a few Teen Titans books prior to Bart's luanch, I enjoyed it. Guggenheim still managed to turn the book around. Did you read that?

Oh definitely. Guggenheim is great, but I haven't read much from him so I still lean towards Waid. I liked Bart's character (Impluse/Kid Flash, with the humor and fun) but as I've said before, I think the transition was lacking.

I am however looking forward to Sinestro Corps and the Black Adam mini-series.

[Johnny Stooge]

Originally Posted by Duo_forbidden

I also picked up Fallen Son: The Death of Captain America 1,2,3 and 4 (4 being my favorite so far) and I think its a good series seeing how other Marvel heroes react after the death of Captian America.

Jeph Loeb does some good, but Fallen Son just seems really superficial to me. Any emotional strength he had when it came to death came out in Superman/Batman #26.

Oh I also picked up World War Hulk.....I'm scared.

Good, now get some DC into you.

Originally Posted by Tobuoi

I really like the idea and plots of a lot graphic novels, it's just the actual format that I'm not too crazy about. It's usually pretty good stuff, though.

No offence, but when I come across people with that attitude, it annoys me. Comics and graphic novels are gold mines when it comes to stories. You've got well crafted stand alone stories or thoroughly established universes and there's just so much. The comic medium is by far the most versatile, since you can do absolutely anything with it. With the influx of comic book based movies, the stigmas are obviously dying down.

Originally Posted by square-enix

Just pissed and ranting. Ignore.
HAHAHAHA. WOW. My goodness gracious. Not that I didn't see it coming but crap.
Flash #13. I probably don't have to tell you what happens. Pure laziness on their part. Rather then fixing their poor editorial decisions and making it work, they go the easy way. I guess DC will be making use of their beloved Multiverse again.

SPOILER SPORT: TONY DANIEL TALKS FLASH #13 - NEWSARAMA


Oh definitely. Guggenheim is great, but I haven't read much from him so I still lean towards Waid. I liked Bart's character (Impluse/Kid Flash, with the humor and fun) but as I've said before, I think the transition was lacking.

I agree that he was a victim of editorial decisions, but to be honest, I quite liked the issue. Guggenheim made Bart's swan-song really touching. Especially with that Robin page. And I think the likelihood of seeing Bart back soon is definately more likely than Conner or Barry.
Bart's a speedster and even though he had the Speed Force taken out of him, he still saw the Black Flash. The way I understand it is that the speedsters all return to the Speed Force after they die, so there's an option for him to return.

Have you read JLoA#10? If you haven't, I really suggest you do.

[square-enix]

Especially with that Robin page.

Agreed.

Have you read JLoA#10? If you haven't, I really suggest you do.

I should. I enjoy JSA Classified and I been meaning to get around to the cross over.

Have you read Checkmate? I don't know if I should go purchase it.
*Purchases new Spider-Man*

[Johnny Stooge]

If you love Wally, get JLoA#10 NOW.
Checkmate is one thing I don't get. I hear it is good, though. Maybe in trade.

Got Captain American, Iron Man and Incredible Hulk as well. Haven't read them yet, but I love what Brubaker's doing with Cap's book even though he's dead.

[square-enix]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stooge

If you love Wally, get JLoA#10 NOW.
Checkmate is one thing I don't get. I hear it is good, though. Maybe in trade.

Got Captain American, Iron Man and Incredible Hulk as well. Haven't read them yet, but I love what Brubaker's doing with Cap's book even though he's dead.

I think I might just get all WWH tie-ins on my way to the store later.
Last time I went, I saw Catwoman. Bit of a shock, I tell ya.

If you have some spare cash, I suggest Daredevil Battlin Jack
Also, I finally got the No Man's Land Trade. Yeah, it's old but I really loved it. I suggest it too anyone.

[Duo_forbidden]

Good, now get some DC into you.

I got some DC only Teen titan though. I really don't like Countdown RIGHT AT THIS MOMENT. I like the concept with it but the story hasn't really hit me quite yet. The Jimmy must die poster cracks me up. Don't get me wrong, I like DC as much as I like Marvel.

[square-enix]

Read the Lightning Saga in one sitting. Why are the twins aged? Makes little sense to me, unless DC plans to use them for something.

Also, if you would like a recap of Infinite Crisis and Civil War look no further than
Infinite Crisis in thirty seconds
Civil War in thirty seconds

[Vice]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stooge

Actually, I don't think it is. I didn't get my copy, and it isn't coming up on my Comic Collector list, and no one over at SuperHero Hype is discussing it. According to Newsarama's latest report, #13 comes out next week and is the final issue of Fastest Man Alive. Then we get All Flash #1 with a bunch of artists and Mark Waid writing, who then returns to writing full time on the Flash as they resume the numbering on last volume. #231? Daniel Acuna will be doing art.

This kinda disappoints me because I was really enjoying Guggenheim's book and I'm a fan of Bart. Oh well. Waid is great and I just hope that he manages to keep Bart on the forefront. I'm guessing we're also looking at the return of Wally and Barry.[/qoute]



[qoute]In Marvel news now, Spectacular and Friendly Neighbour-hood Spider-Man have been cancelled. Instead, we'll be getting Amazing Spider-Man 3 times a month. No creative teams have been announced, but I believe there's a rotating roster.
Good marketing choice and it's a way to keep things in continuity, but c'mon! This is Marvel's way of saying it's all or none when it comes to Spider-Man. If you want to read Spider-Man, there's only Amazing, coming out three times a month. That's a dent in the wallet. Creative teams had better be good.

Well i enjoyed the Run Bart had as the Flash but they timed it right with the Revival of Wally West in JLA #10 so im not sure how All Flash well be.


Im pretty dissapointed in the cancellation of the 2 other spidey titles but im glad that Amazing will be put out 3 timkes a month because that title is alwayse being delayed.

[Johnny Stooge]

Originally Posted by Duo_forbidden

I got some DC only Teen titan though. I really don't like Countdown RIGHT AT THIS MOMENT. I like the concept with it but the story hasn't really hit me quite yet. The Jimmy must die poster cracks me up. Don't get me wrong, I like DC as much as I like Marvel.

Teen Titans is a decent book. I think from issue #50 though is when it'll start to pick back up. They're revisiting Titans of Tomorrow so I'm excited about that. I don't think Countdown is good for new readers, so I'm not saying get it. Batman is good when it comes out and I've really enjoyed the Camelot Falls storyline in Superman. Justice Society of America is also really good.

Originally Posted by square-enix

Read the Lightning Saga in one sitting. Why are the twins aged? Makes little sense to me, unless DC plans to use them for something.

Bart was aged four years when he went into the Speed Force. Makes sense that Wally, Linda and the twins are all aged a bit. But yeah, they probably will use them.

Originally Posted by Vice-Versa

Well i enjoyed the Run Bart had as the Flash but they timed it right with the Revival of Wally West in JLA #10 so im not sure how All Flash well be.

I'm looking forward to a Waid penned All Flash. No doubt it'll be Wally hunting down the Rogues and I'd just love to see Robin get a bit of time along with Inertia.

Im pretty dissapointed in the cancellation of the 2 other spidey titles but im glad that Amazing will be put out 3 timkes a month because that title is alwayse being delayed.

It's just a pain in the wallet though. D:

[square-enix]

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/count...adboys_mid.jpg
Oh no! It's Jesus and his twelve apostles.

Still reading countdown. Still slow and boring. Don't know why I'm still reading. Damn me and my compulsive need to send money

Sinestro Corps was decent. Didn't really have that "wow" factor for me, although
[spoiler]Superboy Prime came back a tad too quickly imo[/spoiler]

Enjoying Batman Confidential, Detective Comics. Also got Gotham Central (well, most of it). Loving it. No idea why it was canceled.
Picked up Green Arrow: Year One, still have to read that.

Supergirl sucks. Never should have touched it. Blasted Superman & Batman got me vaguely interested.

McDuffie's coming to JLA so I might go for the new run.
I'm also waiting for Teen Titans #50 (mentioned above)

Annihilation Conquest, World War Hulk, Spider-Man, New Avengers and Captain America are my Marvel buys.
Curious to know what happens with Parker. Might get a beating.

[Johnny Stooge]

Originally Posted by square-enix

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/count...adboys_mid.jpg
Oh no! It's Jesus and his twelve apostles.

I never saw it like that. It's not as cryptic as the Jimenez one, but what I don't get is the Superman in black with the mullet. It resembles his suit from 'Return of' but that never had a cape.

Still reading countdown. Still slow and boring. Don't know why I'm still reading. Damn me and my compulsive need to send money

Same. I liked last weeks issue though. The Bart Allen funeral, Trickster and Pied Piper and Jason Todd and Donna Troy. Mainly interested in the Trickster and Pied Piper parts though, have from the beginning.

Sinestro Corps was decent. Didn't really have that "wow" factor for me, although
[spoiler]Superboy Prime came back a tad too quickly imo[/spoiler]

Haven't gotten Sinestro Corps yet. Do you read Green Lantern Corps?

Enjoying Batman Confidential, Detective Comics. Also got Gotham Central (well, most of it). Loving it. No idea why it was canceled.
Picked up Green Arrow: Year One, still have to read that.

Supergirl sucks. Never should have touched it. Blasted Superman & Batman got me vaguely interested.

I dropped Detective. Only picking up the Dini issues. They're good, but overall it's just not my thing. And I could have told you Supergirl was shit. Wonder Woman is only marginally better. Picking up GA:YO next week.

McDuffie's coming to JLA so I might go for the new run.
I'm also waiting for Teen Titans #50 (mentioned above)

I'm not thrilled about McDuffie because it doesn't scream superior to me, but I'll hold out for it. I've enjoyed Meltzer's as slow paced as it is.
I'll be sold on Teen Titans if Blue Beetle is a permanent spot. And if McKeever can get Wonder Girl to cheer the f*ck up.
[Do you read Blue Beetle?]

Annihilation Conquest, World War Hulk, Spider-Man, New Avengers and Captain America are my Marvel buys.
Curious to know what happens with Parker. Might get a beating.

Peter's gonna get his ass handed to him for sure. I'd love to see take down Kingpin, but that's not gonna happen and I don't see him making it through on his own in a fight with a bunch of criminals.
Amazing Spider-Man, New Avengers, Mighty Avengers, Captain America and Avengers: The Initiative are my definite pulls. Waiting on the next issue of New Warriors to make a judgement and picked up #95 and 96 of Daredevil 'cos it's Brubaker.
Silver Surfer: Requiem kicks all kinds of ass. Wondering how that Captain America mini will pull off, too.

[square-enix]

I never saw it like that. It's not as cryptic as the Jimenez one, but what I don't get is the Superman in black with the mullet. It resembles his suit from 'Return of' but that never had a cape.

I'm not entirely sure the point of the Martian Manhunter and Catwomen being in the teaser if they're here (new line-up looks great imo)
Not sure what to make of the broken arrow. DiDio probably won't do much
As for Superman, someone mentioned Kon-El's return to life although that's optimistic.
The one on the far left is from Kingdom Come?

Same. I liked last weeks issue though. The Bart Allen funeral, Trickster and Pied Piper and Jason Todd and Donna Troy. Mainly interested in the Trickster and Pied Piper parts though, have from the beginning.

Same. But I don't think they'll make Wally do much. (once the New Flash starts and all) Murder is eh...

Haven't gotten Sinestro Corps yet. Do you read Green Lantern Corps?

No, but I have to because Green Lantern #21 told me to -.-

[Do you read Blue Beetle?]

No, but I did catch him in The Brave and the Bold. Humorous, to say the least. Safe to assume Jamie's monthly issues have humor?

Silver Surfer: Requiem kicks all kinds of ass.

I did pick this up. Most of the space Heroes aren't used very well by Marvel I think.
Just wondering, by why doesn't Norrin just talk to Galactus. Seems like the obvious move.... unless it was off-panel or something.

Wondering how that Captain America mini will pull off, too.

Hmm?

Oh yeah, All Star Batman and Robin the Boy Wonder is such a waste of talent. I only picked up the first issue, but I think my assessment is fair. Miller's vocabulary and writing skills degraded to that of a mentally retarded infant. I'd rather read an entire comic worth of Bizarro speak.
I picked it up because I enjoyed Hush. Lee and William's work is impressive but it's just not enough to keep me going.