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    Default Question about inheritence and the keyblades

    I'd really like to see the confirmation that Terra chose Riku and Ven chose Sora, because in the original Sunset Horizons video, Terra was the one wielding Sora's keyblade and Ven was the one wielding Riku's keyblade.

    I really hope this has been pointed out before and I'm not the first, but it seems more like that when TAV chose their successors, it was intended for Riku to inherit the keyblade of light, but something must have mixed up and the keyblade of light was instead sent to Sora.

    The keyblade of dark may have been intended for Kairi, but I think it's more likely that Aqua could not decide on a successor and was therefore not left for anyone to inherit but to find. And who knows if Mickey or Kairi is the rightful owner.

    Please, this isn't a theory. I actually really want to know if anything has been confirmed yet.
    For that matter, is it even confirmed that they actually CHOSE a successor of any kind? Were they even thinking of successors at the time? I mean, they're all apprentices of the true keyblade master at the time. Perhaps by the end, they themselves have inherited the three keyblades we know so well from the master and in the face of Master Xehanort they decide to take some precautions.

    Again, not a theory, just thinking out loud.


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    Default Re: Question about inheritence and the keyblades

    Jimini's Journal in Kingdom Hearts. Check Riku's profile.
    When did Ven/Aqua ever pick anyone? O_O

    And I thought the Sunset Horizon was non-canon.
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    Default Re: Question about inheritence and the keyblades

    Quote Originally Posted by Attemisc View Post
    I'd really like to see the confirmation that Terra chose Riku and Ven chose Sora, because in the original Sunset Horizons video, Terra was the one wielding Sora's keyblade and Ven was the one wielding Riku's keyblade.
    Terra holding the Kingdom Key actually ties in with everythough, though it's a concept video. It's to show Terra, Aqua and Ven, the Wielders of the past, are related to Sora, Mickey and Riku, the wielders of the present.

    Ven never chose Sora. He's probably stuck inside him in some form or manner.

    As for confirmation about Terra choosing Riku.
    As wevvy said, KH1 Riku's journal. Stated bluntly Riku was the original intended Master for the KK.
    We then have KH2:FM+ and the fight against Lingering Sentiment. While the fight itself isn't considered canon and LS even being there is only debatably canon, what LS said is canon beyond doubt. Nomura himself referenced it in Another Report.
    What LS said was, while refering Sora's Keyblade - that Sora wasn't the one "he" (LS -> Terra) chose for it.
    We know who was the original intended wielder from KH1. So if LS didn't choose Sora for it, that must mean Terra was the one that choose Riku for the Keyblade.
    Nomura confirmed that's what that scene was refering to in Another Report, when he said that the FM+ had a hint as to Riku being a chosen wielder.
    Riku not being mentioned at all, yet the original ownership of the KK being raised as an issue = Riku hinted to be a chosen wielder.

    I really hope this has been pointed out before and I'm not the first, but it seems more like that when TAV chose their successors, it was intended for Riku to inherit the keyblade of light, but something must have mixed up and the keyblade of light was instead sent to Sora.
    Riku's Heart was too weak to wield it, we're told. Sora, on the other hand, just about physically reached inside Riku's Heart and pulled it out of there.
    KH1, Destiny Islands - when Sora reaches for Riku's hand, right before Riku disappears, we see a flash of light, and then Sora's left alone - with the Keyblade.
    One of the older Nomura interviews have Nomura describe how in his scenario, the Darkness that surrounded them was the Darkness in Riku's Heart, and the flash of Light - the light in his heart. When we saw the flash of light, it was when Sora "reached in" - and took the Keyblade.

    The keyblade of dark may have been intended for Kairi, but I think it's more likely that Aqua could not decide on a successor and was therefore not left for anyone to inherit but to find. And who knows if Mickey or Kairi is the rightful owner.
    Kairi isn't a wielder. Notice how Aqua picked up the Keyblade that is strictly Mickey's, while Kairi can't even summon one of her own.
    It's TAV vs. SRM, nor SRK.

    For that matter, is it even confirmed that they actually CHOSE a successor of any kind? Were they even thinking of successors at the time? I mean, they're all apprentices of the true keyblade master at the time. Perhaps by the end, they themselves have inherited the three keyblades we know so well from the master and in the face of Master Xehanort they decide to take some precautions.
    The only one who's confirmed to have chosen anyone at the time is Terra, and even that is under motives we're unaware of.
    I hold he gave Riku the KK due to Sora's relation with Ven, be it to protect the Ven in Sora, or complete his wish to be Erased should the need arise.
    Either way though, we don't know for sure.

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    Default Re: Question about inheritence and the keyblades

    i think keyblade master or master lvl are able to turn their keyblade into orbs and turn them in to other weapons but that just a thought ever though terra can don that.

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    You mean the Lingering Sentiment can do it.
    Which makes it irrelevant until further notice due to the LS fight being non-canon.

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    Default Re: Question about inheritence and the keyblades

    how did WtD even exist in BBS cuz it was originally the Soul Eater and then transformed to the WtD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Attemisc View Post
    I'd really like to see the confirmation that Terra chose Riku and Ven chose Sora, because in the original Sunset Horizons video, Terra was the one wielding Sora's keyblade and Ven was the one wielding Riku's keyblade.
    Kh1. It's confirmed that Riku was supposed to get the Kingdom Key.
    Along with that, Sunset Horizons is not canon, but it was made to show connections.
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    He underwent a sudden and catastrophic increase in energy and mass in a small space, reducing his material form to a fine rain of subatomic particles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haxon15 View Post
    how did WtD even exist in BBS cuz it was originally the Soul Eater and then transformed to the WtD
    The KH space-time continuum is distorted, yes, but again: it's symbolism. Whatever VAT did with the three Keyblades at Sunset Horizons, it's quite possible that somehow or another, the WtD was disguised in some other form, to be found by XH and given to Riku.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haxon15 View Post
    how did WtD even exist in BBS cuz it was originally the Soul Eater and then transformed to the WtD
    If you're talking about Sunset Horizons, it's non canon. It didn't happen.
    Quote Originally Posted by Pelafina
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    Meaning Nomura can do whatever the hell he wants in it, almost :D
    Though to be completely fair no one really knows how Riku got the WtD. So we might yet get a retcon curve ball up our collective rear.

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    I know this thread is sorta dead but i have a little question...If it's VAT vs SRM (the past wielders vs the present wielders...which is how Rain put it) why does Mickey have a keyblade at the same time as VAT do? Just saying. Cuz i'm pretty sure he was wielding the same time they were.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RelixBBS View Post
    I know this thread is sorta dead but i have a little question...If it's VAT vs SRM (the past wielders vs the present wielders...which is how Rain put it) why does Mickey have a keyblade at the same time as VAT do? Just saying. Cuz i'm pretty sure he was wielding the same time they were.
    Mickey's one of the various pieces linking the past and the future. As seems to be the case now though, he far more relates to the present than the past as far as wielding goes, especially since he seems to only have gotten his Keyblade at the time while TAV apparently have been apprentices for a while by the time BBS took place.

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