KHI Inferno Official Discussion Thread (Deep Jungle Thread!)

[Raeneth]

Hey everyone. It's hard to keep in touch really since the Inferno's been taken down. I figured creating a thread like this might help everyone talking in a community. Also, I'm sure some of you want to ask questions concerning things stemming from the Dojo announcements of the past two days, so I'm holding this as a discussion Q and A forum about... well anything concerning the Inferno.

However, this is not only a thread where you just post questions, this is also about discussing and talking with each other if you feel so inclined. No spamming, but other than that, have at it.

[Avalon]

So uh... yea.. I'll be the first to post I guess. The starting of making the demo and resetting everything early. I'm not against it in the slightest. But, I do think if anything, that we should get at least like a week of the Inferno before the reset. Just to give people some time to finish up a few things. Get a milestone they were so close to or just say goodbye to the old inferno really. I know a lot of players would want that. A lot want the demo too. *shrugs* Its up to you guys to decide so yea..

As well, for the new inferno. I'm quite curious as to how the events will be played out. With the current one. Not even two weeks into it we had an event. And only one clan was even in the event. Will you be doing that again? Or give people a month or so to form clans and just experience the inferno before bringing in an event?

Also, A long ass time ago, Something was said about the original people beating Ryu. The first 10 I think it was before getting weakened. Something along the lines of a reward or something for beating someone that was made to be unbeatable. Is anything going to happen there?


I'll stop for the moment... let other people ask things. I don't want to be the only person asking what everyone wants to know or asking everyone's questions >_>;

[Terion]

Question: Why not just make a temporary Chatroom or something?

I think you guys should hold the demo waiting for a while, atleast till like 5 people beat CC or something like that.

[Ventus]

Originally Posted by Kaizer

Also, A long ass time ago, Something was said about the original people beating Ryu. The first 10 I think it was before getting weakened. Something along the lines of a reward or something for beating someone that was made to be unbeatable. Is anything going to happen there?

Yeah, im a bit cuorious too. I believe the first ten were:

1.-Alucard
2.-Tosh
3.-Axie
4.-Zalera
5.-Kain
6.-Anbu
7.-Hiroki
8.-Waker
9.-Dion


Also:
1.-Tosh
2.-Axie

That was when he had 80 speed and was still beatable with strenght, until someone started whining about using strenght and my n00bishness, (tho he had a point xD), forcing people to kill him with chants.

i don't remember the 10th player,
I believe that's the correct order, but anyways, sorry if i'm wrong :P

So uh... yea.. I'll be the first to post I guess. The starting of making the demo and resetting everything early. I'm not against it in the slightest. But, I do think if anything, that we should get at least like a week of the Inferno before the reset. Just to give people some time to finish up a few things. Get a milestone they were so close to or just say goodbye to the old inferno really. I know a lot of players would want that. A lot want the demo too. *shrugs* Its up to you guys to decide so yea..

x3 Agreed. I don't know... maybe a last battle royale, or i don't know, something special to say good bye to the old 'ferno

[Axel Ryman]

Similar to what Kaizer said, I heard about other things, such as first few to beat Valefor, maybe a few others. I got a few questions on those.

1: What are all the unmentioned milestones(First few to beat Ryu, Valefor, etc)
2: Rewards for the above


Also, I think we should have the old Inferno back, at least a week, 2 at the most. This way people can finish what they were doing before it got shut down.

[Raeneth]

Just to be sure everyone understands that while the current inferno stands, development of the demo and by extension the new Inferno will be very very slow. This is because all of the triggers/places/magic/sleights/etc need to go. In addition there's a lot of behind the scenes file managing to be done. This is all not possible while the current inferno is in use and the items and things we need to be rid of are in existence. We could just make a small holding cell type place with the marks and everything, but I don't see that as being a viable option. I know you guys want 5,000 SP and all that, and I'm not against opening the Inferno again for a short period of time, however at the same time...

The future to me is more important than the present. Maybe that makes me a sell out or whatnot, but yeah. Thanks for the reminder Kai, and the list, Toshi. I totally forgot about that since my PMs were erased a while back. I'll really consider what to reward you guys with, but it'll be something nice I think. When I know, you'll know.

The only unmentioned "milestone" was defeating Ryu before he was weakened. That's all. It's not even secret, or an official one. It's something I want to give to you guys because honestly I felt he was unbeatable. So yeah. I want to give people another crack at the Captain, definitely. However, I don't want him to be defeated, so I'm very torn.

As far as clans, we're going to make sure there are a few standing clans before events go live. We want to make a lot of fun events for everyone, but obviously having functioning and ACTIVE clans are important.

Clan events won't be around until the demo ends and the real thang is put in place. That'll be around 3.1's release.

Making a chatroom might be a good idea, but too easy to be abused by other people who would want to mess with the Inferno players and all. For now a thread will do.

[Avalon]

Originally Posted by Neo Ragnarok

Just to be sure everyone understands that while the current inferno stands, development of the demo and by extension the new Inferno will be very very slow. This is because all of the triggers/places/magic/sleights/etc need to go. In addition there's a lot of behind the scenes file managing to be done. This is all not possible while the current inferno is in use and the items and things we need to be rid of are in existence. We could just make a small holding cell type place with the marks and everything, but I don't see that as being a viable option. I know you guys want 5,000 SP and all that, and I'm not against opening the Inferno again for a short period of time, however at the same time...

I can see the debate and the hard choice of opening it back up or not. However, I wouldn't be against the cell type place for the marks. So people could do them. But at the same time, if its only the marks, not everyone can get there. So it would just be open to the few that made it there I am guessing. Plus, if there isn't a training dummy of sorts there. You couldn't really get the 5k SP. I would like to see Inferno up for just a week at least. Two weeks would be plenty enough. 5k sp probably couldn't be gotten in that time. But other people wanting milestones could surely get them if they focused and played. Again, I can see the reason for not wanting it to be reopened. If the Demo and reset was planned for this time. I don't think many would mind. But because of the inferno just going offline and it not being the demo/reset. I think people still want to have one last go with the inferno. Just before they have to depart with it and start a new relationship with the new one.

Originally Posted by Neo Ragnarok

The future to me is more important than the present. Maybe that makes me a sell out or whatnot, but yeah. Thanks for the reminder Kai, and the list, Toshi. I totally forgot about that since my PMs were erased a while back. I'll really consider what to reward you guys with, but it'll be something nice I think. When I know, you'll know.

The future is more important. Everything in the current inferno will be erased. But, we could still get things done in the current inferno that would be part of the new one. The milestones and marks. I still have the PM(I think) of the original people that beat him. So I can go ahead and send it if you need it. If I don't have it. I know that Kain has it written in a book.

Originally Posted by Neo Ragnarok

The only unmentioned "milestone" was defeating Ryu before he was weakened. That's all. It's not even secret, or an official one. It's something I want to give to you guys because honestly I felt he was unbeatable. So yeah. I want to give people another crack at the Captain, definitely. However, I don't want him to be defeated, so I'm very torn.

He isn't really possible.. even with new spells. At least to be he isn't. So really not much to worry about there. So you could let us have a crack at him... even tho the chances of winning are significantly stacked against us. Wouldn't be the first time an unbeatable person was defeated.. Ryu and valefor as examples.

Originally Posted by Neo Ragnarok

As far as clans, we're going to make sure there are a few standing clans before events go live. We want to make a lot of fun events for everyone, but obviously having functioning and ACTIVE clans are important.

Clans, that's something I want to know more of with the new inferno. I've heard things like getting rid of the clan threads. Or the 8 person thing. And ideas so far on what the RPG team wants done with them?

Originally Posted by Neo Ragnarok

Clan events won't be around until the demo ends and the real thang is put in place. That'll be around 3.1's release.

About 3.1, considering the fact that it may not be here for a long while, what happens or what all would be planned or done if after the demo is released, 3.1 still wont be around for another 3 months? Would we just sit and wait like how we have been? Or what something be done to try and keep players interest within the RPG?

Originally Posted by Neo Ragnarok

Making a chatroom might be a good idea, but too easy to be abused by other people who would want to mess with the Inferno players and all. For now a thread will do.

Chatrooms usually do get abused in the sense. Lots of problems could happen which wouldn't end well.

[Krimsun Monkeh]

Yeah, im a bit cuorious too. I believe the first ten were:

1.-Alucard
2.-Tosh
3.-Axie
4.-Zalera
5.-Kain
6.-Anbu
7.-Hiroki
8.-Zinaida(sp?) Zin
9.-Ramen
10. Dion
11. Waker

It was the first 10 + Waker. At least, this is how I remember it. All I know is that I was after Zin but before Dion and Waker.

[Raeneth]

Originally Posted by Kaizer

The future is more important. Everything in the current inferno will be erased. But, we could still get things done in the current inferno that would be part of the new one.

Yeah, BUT there is basically nothing that'll carry over. I mean a few areas will, but everything is being made from scratch. Opening an area just for marks totally screws over any new players that just join. Yeah, it's great for the oldies, but it'll turn off a lot of people who are trying out the Inferno for the first time. Keeping it offline will bore those people, I know, which is why I want the demo out quickly, because I know you guys will like it and it'll let people REALLY see what we're doing with the Inferno.

He isn't really possible.. even with new spells. At least to be he isn't. So really not much to worry about there. So you could let us have a crack at him... even tho the chances of winning are significantly stacked against us. Wouldn't be the first time an unbeatable person was defeated.. Ryu and valefor as examples.

Heh, it's easy to remake the marks for the end of the Demo as well. It's not as impressive (I think??) but you know it's an option. In any event, time will tell if it gets re-opened or not. I'm leaning towards not.

Clans, that's something I want to know more of with the new inferno. I've heard things like getting rid of the clan threads. Or the 8 person thing. And ideas so far on what the RPG team wants done with them?

Hasn't been discussed further than us being excited about having 3.1 will lessen the amount of babysitting we have to do and will allow us to focus on making fun clan events.

Other than that, just my proposal I'm working on. Proposal entails a lot of things I discussed with you before, but a tad more fine tuned and functional.

About 3.1, considering the fact that it may not be here for a long while, what happens or what all would be planned or done if after the demo is released, 3.1 still wont be around for another 3 months? Would we just sit and wait like how we have been? Or what something be done to try and keep players interest within the RPG?

The Demo is NOT a single chapter. Hell, it'll be an RPG in and of itself. We'll be adding new parts to it every so often to keep everyone entertained. Not to mention I'm holding back on some awesome features of the Inferno I can bust out to keep you guys interested.

If Demo is out in August, 3.1 may take until early next year until it's released. I'm confident we'll have enough stuff to keep everyone entertained for a while. Besides, would you rather be playing in a demo that helps ME fine tune stats, enemies, magics, etc so when 3.1 is out you have an awesome game, or would you rather sit around in the current Inferno doing nothing and training overpowered spells to level 50?

Either way, we're waiting for a while. I'd rather have fun while waiting and get data to add to my calculations. Get impressions and all. What works, what doesn't. What needs to be tweaked, what works perfectly. What you guys like, what you hate. All of this will be known by the end of the demo and will really let me at least know what to tweak before 3.1 is released. I'm looking forward to it just for that.

[Griever!]

Ok time for me to talk.


1 question 5k sp really simple question can the prize be gotten in the newferno by means of quest or W/e?

Now that I asked. How are you doing Neo :3? And everyone else for that matter. I am doing peachy besides the total lack of energy lately.

Now for what will be different about the demo? I am fairly curious into what this demo will hold. Like what type of stuff will we be seeing ^_^

[Avalon]

Originally Posted by Neo Ragnarok

The Demo is NOT a single chapter. Hell, it'll be an RPG in and of itself. We'll be adding new parts to it every so often to keep everyone entertained. Not to mention I'm holding back on some awesome features of the Inferno I can bust out to keep you guys interested.

._. oh dang. Its going to be very long. I see, thats awesome.

Originally Posted by Griever!

Ok time for me to talk.


1 question 5k sp really simple question can the prize be gotten in the newferno by means of quest or W/e?

Now that I asked. How are you doing Neo :3? And everyone else for that matter. I am doing peachy besides the total lack of energy lately.

Now for what will be different about the demo? I am fairly curious into what this demo will hold. Like what type of stuff will we be seeing ^_^

O.o I r good. And, same with me, I would love to know about Demo >.>

also

Ryu List

1. Me
2. Tosh
3. Axie
4. Zal
5. zinaida
6. Anbu
7. Hiro
8. Kain
9. Ramen
10. Dion
11. Waker

O.o that's the list I have had... for... a long time ._. No one is really sure of when Zin beat Ryu ._. I know for a fact it was before Ramen, Dion and Waker. I know the top 4 is correct. So that just leaves Zin, Anbu and Hiro for those three spots o.O Zin should be 5th. Maybe 8th >_> Not sure. x_x Or I might just have Kain misplaced with Zin. But I know for a fact there was only 11 and that's the 11 people. That's all the matters.

[Takuya]

Originally Posted by Griever!

Ok time for me to talk.


1 question 5k sp really simple question can the prize be gotten in the newferno by means of quest or W/e?

Now that I asked. How are you doing Neo :3? And everyone else for that matter. I am doing peachy besides the total lack of energy lately.

Now for what will be different about the demo? I am fairly curious into what this demo will hold. Like what type of stuff will we be seeing ^_^

lol. Just a few days ago you were talking about blowing your brains out from inferno withdrawal or something similar.

I've been lurking in the forums and been in the chat room. Trying to write but just can't get anything out of my head and onto paper. Yeah.

On the inferno... I wish Neo, D, spdude or anybody in charge of it and its server would let it go online for a few days or weeks if possible... just so some people can get a crack at the milestones...

A question about the thread, Rae. May people(old players) treat it as we do with Deep Jungle?

Later. How's everybody else doing, btw?

[Griever!]

Oh that reminds me of a question I had. How is construction going with the demo? And will the Demo be of the same storyline or different.

[Raeneth]

Originally Posted by Griever!

Ok time for me to talk.


1 question 5k sp really simple question can the prize be gotten in the newferno by means of quest or W/e?

Well I've always called newferno that with the idea that it takes place once we have 3.1 In that case, no, you won't need it >_> I haven't decided if you can truly attain the 5000 SP milestone in the Demo. We'll see about that. I might make a secondary set of milestones so that people can all have a nice crack at em if they didn't get them before the demo. Of course they'd still be really high, but players can use the whole demo time to get them. It's an idea i just came up with as I'm currently writing this.

XD I'm fine. Busy-ish, but not overwhelmingly so. Trying to balance a handful of things like funferno/girlfriend/work/friends and all. Hoping to go see the Dark Knight tomorrow night with friendz xP

Demo you'll see... well... basic job arcs... job arc leveling system. A small story which will continue. You'll be introduced to the setting for the 3.1 Inferno. The demo might be treated as something of a prequel if we decide upon it.

Basically it's just to get everyone used to the new enemies, new gameplay ideas, new world we're making for 3.1

That being said, the Demo will greatly differ from the full version. No element training or any of that fun stuff. Lots of tricks still to be had when 3.1 is released.

Originally Posted by Takuya

A question about the thread, Rae. May people(old players) treat it as we do with Deep Jungle?

I don't see why not o.O

If we can up the Inferno again for a short while, we will. Maybe before the final dismantling. We'll see.

Originally Posted by Griever!

Oh that reminds me of a question I had. How is construction going with the demo? And will the Demo be of the same storyline or different.

Demo will be of the new storyline. Nothing about the old Inferno will carry over besides maybe a few nods to the old Inferno.

Construction is going rather smoothly at the moment actually. We're adding places here and there and i'm beginning to up some of the new weapons and junk XP

[Griever!]

Originally Posted by Neo Ragnarok

Well I've always called newferno that with the idea that it takes place once we have 3.1 In that case, no, you won't need it >_> I haven't decided if you can truly attain the 5000 SP milestone in the Demo.

lulz miscommunication xD I meant the prize for the 5k sp in 3.1 since it's an arc will it be avalable in a play through in 3.1 xP through means of a quest or something.

I might make a secondary set of milestones so that people can all have a nice crack at em if they didn't get them before the demo. Of course they'd still be really high, but players can use the whole demo time to get them. It's an idea i just came up with as I'm currently writing this.

Normally I wouldn't really want an option like this but considering the circumstnces, could the SP we already have carry over? like if I sent you my SP amount could I finish milestones in the demo considering time was cut short unfortunately :/ on training and milestone obtaining. Although I do admit I like the idea of there being a new set of milestones. Then again I guess if I would request this everyone else would and they'd get mad if they weren't gonna get it and someone else was and accuse of RPG staff of favoritism yet again.

nvm scratch that.

XD I'm fine. Busy-ish, but not overwhelmingly so. Trying to balance a handful of things like funferno/girlfriend/work/friends and all. Hoping to go see the Dark Knight tomorrow night with friendz xP

Bastard >_>

Demo you'll see... well... basic job arcs... job arc leveling system. A small story which will continue. You'll be introduced to the setting for the 3.1 Inferno. The demo might be treated as something of a prequel if we decide upon it.

Prequels are always good just don't give out too much of the story the kiddies will like it in mystery form. I know I like it o_o

Basically it's just to get everyone used to the new enemies, new gameplay ideas, new world we're making for 3.1

the elemetal system obviously won't be there. But would you care elaborate a bit on new enemies and new world. For the people who saw that map it was incredibly expansive we were all like omg. 50ish area's?

are you worried about people getting lost? I can see it now. "OMG OMG OMG he told me to meet him here but where is here ._. uhh where was the entrance again? x_xwhat do you mean your there that's like 14 screens away D:"

That being said, the Demo will greatly differ from the full version. No element training or any of that fun stuff. Lots of tricks still to be had when 3.1 is released.

I really can't wait ^_^

If we can up the Inferno again for a short while, we will. Maybe before the final dismantling. We'll see.

Oh that would make me happy x_x I am missing it right now.

Demo will be of the new storyline.

Don't give away too much of the surprise save that for 3.1

Construction is going rather smoothly at the moment actually. We're adding places here and there and i'm beginning to up some of the new weapons and junk XP

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